TP: A ruined world?

I've been noticing more and more threads posting about the possiblities of what certain areas did in the past...such as the Arbiter Grounds, and etc. But while reading these forums, I've noticed a very similiar thing amongst them all.
There are tons of old ruins all over Hyrule in TP, and the whole kingdom seems to be in disrepair so to speak.

Here's some example of destroyed areas:

New Kakariko village and Old Kakariko (Hidden Town), why was old Kakariko abandoned...and why does New Kakariko appear to be on the same track?

Death Mountain looks almost apocolyptic, the friendly ring of smoke doesn't exsist anymore...and the mountain is basically a ticking timebomb.

Countless chasms and bottomless pits everywhere on the main fields...the land appears to be nearly ripped apart, almost like massive earthquakes have been frequent.

It's been said that the old stump of a tree over Lake Hylia is the same tree from Oot that housed the old water temple...if I'm correct, the shrine is located under this...which would connect it to the Water Temple of the past, bit off topic there... Either way, if that's the tree, and the shrine is the temple....then Lake Hylia is drying up quickly...

Kokiri don't even show their faces anymore, maybe sensing danger? We see no signs of the fabled Kokiri...or their village, they have no connections to the Hylians anymore. (Maybe this explains the WW koroks...but that goes against timeline splitting..)

The arbiter grounds, where did they come from...and why are they even there? And either way...they're nearly destroyed and claimed by the desert. There's not even any signs of Gerudo population anymore...maybe they spaced themselves away...or were destroyed as well?

And lastly, there's this wierd theater like ruin that is near castle town entrance...I forgot which side. It has a picture like view window, in which you can see lake Hylia from. Just what the heck was this building? It was obviously something important...it overlooks the old bridge and everything..and has signs of life. But yet nothing...

All in all, I think we're missing a time period here that was a almost golden like era. But something happened, old towns died off...buildings were destroyed...something happened. But what happened? I'd like to hear some theories on this, cause I'm really interested in it. I even think the condition of TP Hyrule could reflect on some of the timeline theories out there.

I think that something major happened. For instance if you were sentenced to die what would you do? In my case go nuts.

So basicly my theory is that Ganondorf was sentenced to die, Got into a beserk rage and made ruins out of everything. As for the earthquakes and such ... well TP's a dark game.

TP's a dark game doesn't really cut it, everything has a backstory. Ganondorf went crazy....but we saw the cinema...he didn't get a chance to destroy crap yet. Well besides that sage...but he was quickly sealed after that.

hmm... This probably has some truth in it. The world is abandoned. Perhaps TP isn't directly linked with OoT but there is a game in between . But when looking at it, none of the games fit there. So I guess nintendo will add something in to fill in the gap.

Or on the other side it could be that everything is just happening hundreds and hundreds of years after OoT. Those ruins etc. would be more or less natural then. As for the Hylia Lake and Death Mountain... who knows... Natural flow probably.

The reason why I like to bring this up, is that it show that Nintendo has something up their sleeve. I really think we're going to see a game that will talk more about the whole comeback of Ganondorf before the great flood....

Btw...is it possible that through the split...the two lands could be somehow linked together? Like a ruined adult world would reflect a child world? Not in the light and dark sense...but if the one time period is experiancing the uprising of Ganondorf and the flood...then would the peaceful land experiance something similar?

Granted that Death Mountain is so unstable,this can indeed be a sign of tectonic activity,disastrous activity as well.
Also,were we not told of some war(battles?) that occurred between OoT and TP (correct me if I'm wrong,I'm rusty today).
If thats the case,it could very well lead to an explanation of why Hyrule looks like its in a state of disrepair.

Might be possible. Come to think of it after OoT in the child timeline the only race which is going downwards are the Kokiri because the Deku Tree is dead... The Zora are ok, the Gorons too. As we know in the child timeline there is no new Dek Tree, at least it's not shown although it might have happened by itself 7 years later in the child time. I don't see anything which would stop it from happening... But that's a bit off topic now.

Looking at TP... The Kokiri and Gerudo vanished totally. The Sheikah too, although that's reasonable since Impa was the last survivor.

I'm sure that the Desert is not limited to the places you can visit because as we know in OoT there is only one way trough the desert, you get lost if you somewhere else which means the desert is way bigger. That opens up the possibility that the Gerudos moved. The spirit temple is also not present in TP's desert so it might have been covered in sand, or destroyed or soemthing. But I believe that the Gerudos just moved on.

The Kokiri are a bit tricky... The don't leave the forest and also a large part of TP's forest is not yet discovered by humans (The Temple of Light for example). So there is a possibility that they are deeper into the woods. I suppose they don't show themselves to humans often.

Originally Posted by oni_lunk

Granted that Death Mountain is so unstable,this can indeed be a sign of tectonic activity,disastrous activity as well.
Also,were we not told of some war(battles?) that occurred between OoT and TP (correct me if I'm wrong,I'm rusty today).
If thats the case,it could very well lead to an explanation of why Hyrule looks like its in a state of disrepair.

Jog my memory on these battles, I don't remember them talking about a war in TP. Unless imprisoning Ganondorf is a war...didn't seem like much of one.

Thats why I said I can't remember
I think I heard somewhere that there was some sort of uprising,but i really am not sure,hence my asking for some sort of confirmation.

An uprising eh? That would explain why almost everything besides the castle town is destroyed...lol those ruins are from a full blown war. I think a time exsisted where things were much more peaceful, a time maybe a little bit after OoT. This probably lasted for a good couple hundred years. Im basing this all on the temple of time, and its destruction. It was obviously moved and rebuilt in the forest to hide the MS, and then left alone. The damage on its stone outside would base between at least a 300-500 year span.

I noticed that many of the ruins on the field were comparable to the temple of time ruins, so this comes from a golden time. And then something happened...and it was much more than an uprising.

1) The chasms and cliffs were made to prevent the player from progressing through the game out-of-sequence. They don't directly refer to the storyline.

2) Death Mountain's eruptions were caused by Darbus when possessed by the Fused Shadows. They ended when Darbus was saved.

3) The Arbiter's Grounds were never seen before because they never played a part in the Zelda storyline before. The Gerudo Desert is meant to be a large location and there's no point in designing irrelevant structures just for the sake of it.

4) The theatre construction over Lake Hylia is actually a ruined amphitheatre (I know, there is one almost identical in England), which was used to enact plays with Lake Hylia as the scenic backdrop.

But why is the theatre ruined? That's my main question...and the cliffs, I know that technically they are used to stop the character, but go deeper into that....I mean there are also tons of pointless cliffs. Like the one by the castle town...ones such as that. And I'm talking about the appearance of the mountain as well, if everything was all happy after Darbus was cured...then the mountain would start to look nice and Kakariko would repopulate, etc.

What happened? Probably progress. This Hyrule seems more industrial than Hyrules prior.

May have something to do with the goddesses (or gods, whatever) chasing down the "dark interlopers" throughout all of Hyrule...

I actually liked that idea, but I'm/we're pretty sure that happened before OoT.

Yeah, sealing of interlopers was propably years before OoT, and it was the only war mentioned in TP.
So, as for now, there are no wars confirmed between OoT and TP

There was only one ruin on the field in OoT....it was that random wall that's by Lon Lon Ranch. Sob...lon lon ranch wasn't in TP, I was sad.

What happened to that place anyway? <.< *Looks at MoALttP*

This is a main reason why I disliked TP honestly, Nintendo felt it right to unpopulate and remove the cities of Hyrule...in order to make one giant castle town. While they were coding the NPCS that walk around and do nothing in castle town, they were removing possible NPCS in Kakariko and they even got rid of some of the main defining areas of the game. Gerudo town and Lon Lon ranch. Off topic though...

Well, Lon Lon Ranch would not really require much in the way of NPCs though, would it? I thought that place was abandoned when Link married Malon and moved away from Hyrule to found Ordon Village. The horse Epona and the children Malo and Talo are evidence of this being the case. Plus, the name Fado might be inspired by rousing tales of Link's eventful youth.

On an off-topic note, does anyone have any ****ing idea how the mayor got those tusks? Plastic surgery or something? Is there any other examples of mutant Hylians? And what would it be like if Ilia had those? . . . Making out with her would be that much more challenging for a young man, and I am certain that Link would step up to this challenge.