Hyrulian Economics

WARNING: This thread is for the most part a joke.

The real reason why there were so many rubies in Twilight Princess was because Hyrule was going through a period of high inflation. In fact the whole economy seemed to be in a state of disarray. How else could you have a store that charges 1,000 rubies for 10 arrows? The currency was obviously devalued.

More evidence can be seen in the state of the infulstructure. Just look at the Great Bridges of Hylia. Seriously, that thing looks as if it could suffer a cascading structual failure at a moments notice...

As for why they were scatered about in caverns and temples, well, the royal family needed somewhere to store all that devalued currency...the royal treasury was starting to reach maximum capacity! Things were becoming so desperate that they were resorting to hiding rubies in trees, under rocks and even giving them away to flocks of birds.

Obviously Princess Zelda has run the economy into the ground and deserves to be replaced with this man:



YOU'RE FIRED!

rofl.
Good one!
I was actually just trying to study Economics and it was frustrating me.
Good to see something Econ in nature can give me a laugh.
I'm going to look for something to add to this topic...
Perhaps...Monetary Poilicy for Hyrule

You're forgetting the fact that in OoT, kids in the woods had huuuggeee amounts of cash. And there we see another flaw in Zelda's economics tactic. That rupee was gigantic. Not very convenient... xD

And uhm... This isn't really a discussion... Move it to general Zelda chat please? ^^

Originally Posted by the_Predator

You're forgetting the fact that in OoT, kids in the woods had huuuggeee amounts of cash. And there we see another flaw in Zelda's economics tactic. That rupee was gigantic. Not very convenient... xD

And uhm... This isn't really a discussion... Move it to general Zelda chat please? ^^

But.........It's a theory!

They must of been going through the same thing in MC, my brother has 999 rupees and he keeps finding lots more.

Originally Posted by Sypher

They must of been going through the same thing in MC, my brother has 999 rupees and he keeps finding lots more.

True, but in The Minish Cap, there is a lot more things to spend them on (collecting the figurines will eat your rupees up REAL QUICK) unlike Twilight Princess, in which there is pretty much nothing besides opening up the bridge, the Castle Town Malo Mart and the (practically useless) Magical Armor.

Originally Posted by Anslyn Siles

True, but in The Minish Cap, there is a lot more things to spend them on (collecting the figurines will eat your rupees up REAL QUICK) unlike Twilight Princess, in which there is pretty much nothing besides opening up the bridge, the Castle Town Malo Mart and the (practically useless) Magical Armor.

Hey, the Magical Armor makes boss fights a joke. I pwned Ganondorf with that thing.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

Hey, the Magical Armor makes boss fights a joke. I pwned Ganondorf with that thing.

The only problem is that the boss fights are alreday a joke WITHOUT the Magiacal Armor!

Actually, I think that the monetary situation in Hyrule is not nearly so grim . . yet. I believe that Malo is in a position to wrest control of Hyrule from the princess Zelda.

He is already beginning to create a corporate empire (two stores) and has plenty of muscle to call upon (the Goron tribe). I am willing to bet that in the future, he will finance a team of adventuring Gorons called "Malo's Men." They will essentially work to rid the countryside of monsters in order to make the roads safe again (there is no evidence that the Bulblins go away). They will most likely go into town and spend their big salaries, flooding the markets with Rupees. Inflation will skyrocket. Then Malo will come sweeping in with a new currency to replace the outmoded currency, which, for lack of a better term, will be termed "Malo Moolah". The royalty will only be ruling in name.

The goddesses' hero of choice, Link, is no match for such tactics by young geniuses. It will be up to average Colin to stop him. The blond swordsman will be motivated by the loss of Sera's Sundries to the machinations of Malo's new store in Ordon Village. Beth would be devastated and he would go on to stop the maniacal corporation, with the help of the Subrosian underground with the illegal ore chunk currency as an alternative.

. . . yeah, I'm attempting to plot a fanfic: how'd you guess?

(Satire? Alright, I'll play along).

I would imagine that the massive inflation spike in TP is due to the Gorons over-zealously strip-mining Death Mountain. I mean, just look at it! It's a joke in TP compared to other Zelda games, and the Goron Mines must take up nearly the entire volcano.

More importantly, however, Death Mountain has been a source of rupee-rich rocks. Of course, although Gorons can eat rocks I doubt they eat rupees. As they dig through the mineral-rich rocks and ores, mining and processing them for their own bizarre form of 'food', they end up with a massive stockpile of inedible rupees as a waste-product.

Of course, if the Gorons had any kind of sense they would use their windfall to become the dominant world power through economic leverage. However, the most Gorons do not have any kind of sense, being (literally) dense as the rocks they consume.

So instead, the Gorons unceremoniously dumped their wealth on their unsuspecting neighbors, the Zoras and Hylians, who soon thereafter experienced a massive depression.

The solution to the problem? Create a device that uses rupees for fuel, namely the magic armor. But, as to be expected, the first rule of government spending comes into play: why buy one when you can buy two for twice the price? That is why there was a suit being worn by Zelda, as well as the one for sale in the Shop.

Originally Posted by Anslyn Siles

The only problem is that the boss fights are alreday a joke WITHOUT the Magiacal Armor!

I agree. The only place where I considered using Magical Armor was in the Cave of Ordeals, where you had to fight a gazillion Darknuts at one time. Hard... but fun as hell!

Fyer and Falibi are quite the monopolists, though. While everyone's going through a depression, like vIsitor said, they're raking up enough money to be able to give out 100 Rupees in a chest every day.

And I agree with HurriPen too. Malo is a economic demon in disguise as a little kid. They need to kill him, or future Zelda games will say this:

"You got a Yellow Malo Moolah! That's 10 Malo Moolahs!"

But Malo knows how to work economic theory (he even knows time is money!), and he evidently works with the Goron elders. Therefore, the rupee waste might be utilized by the Gorons more efficiently.

But your talk of the Zora is nonsense. They have not been observed to use money as much as the Hylians, leading one to believe them to be a socialist monarchy (o_O WTF); besides which, it is a bit of a commute. It's like going to Hawaii.

However, in terms of politics, I think that the Zora might have a bit of clout, when you consider that big-ass Sky Cannon could easily be converted into a weapon of sorts (Metal Gear). Then again, the Gorons have the bombs, so the Zora would have to use it as a method of troop transportation. This could be ideal for sneak attacks (doesn't the Zora suit strike you as Ninja?).

*EDIT* Fyer and Falbi?!? They can work the cannon too! They might be recruited as technicians by the Zora, allowing them to create aquatic versions of the Sky Cannon, perhaps? They must be able to obtain materials from somewhere (helmets) . . .

Originally Posted by vIsitor

(Satire? Alright, I'll play along).
The solution to the problem? Create a device that uses rupees for fuel, namely the magic armor. But, as to be expected, the first rule of government spending comes into play: why buy one when you can buy two for twice the price? That is why there was a suit being worn by Zelda, as well as the one for sale in the Shop.

Heh, heh, heh... that was exactly what I was thinking! (Because that is percisely what I use the Magic Armor for in the game...):cool:
I too believe this is why the armor was created. It certainly is not practical in battle, that's for sure.

The goddesses' hero of choice, Link, is no match for such tactics by young geniuses. It will be up to average Colin to stop him. The blond swordsman will be motivated by the loss of Sera's Sundries to the machinations of Malo's new store in Ordon Village. Beth would be devastated and he would go on to stop the maniacal corporation, with the help of the Subrosian underground with the illegal ore chunk currency as an alternative.

Sounds something like Final Fantasy VII.

"You got a Yellow Malo Moolah! That's 10 Malo Moolahs!"

If that ever happened, I would have to smash my head against the wall, methinks.
(Mind if I use that in my sig?)

Originally Posted by Anslyn Siles

Sounds something like Final Fantasy VII.

Well, that may be the case, but I have my reasoning. You see, Malo has a burgeoning business here. Seeing how successful it is in Castle Town, it is not unlikely that he might set up shop back home eventually. Something tells me that Sera might die and Beth would have to care for her decrepit father. She would probably run the shop in her memory. It is rather obvious that she gains a thing for Colin, and it is likely to be mutual.

I am not certain of the details, but I believe that Colin will sacrifice much in order to save this store. He will probably make a Mephistophelean deal with Malo, giving his services as scout for certain transactions. This will make use of his elite animal-talking skills (Link probably could help, and monkeys are good at gestures and might aid his communication in order to learn bladed combat [three swords maximum for them: monkey see, monkey improve]). Perhaps he may even travel to Termina and bring Tingle back to act as a drain on the Rupee excess (yay Tingle). I mean, where else would the monkeys come from?

The Subrosian connection is also easy to make, what with their multiple entrances throughout the world, and their similarity to the Gorons would make for interesting fights (both tribes love the music: breakdancing competitions). Also, it is possible that they would be moved to action by Malo trying to take over the rest of the world with similar tactics (Labrynna, Holodrum). They would make for an awesome clandestine rebellion.

Also, I should like to rename the new unit currency: Malo's Mina. Unless you can find a better real-world m-related currency. Plus, it is also the word source for mines (Goron reference).

Originally Posted by Anslyn Siles

If that ever happened, I would have to smash my head against the wall, methinks.
(Mind if I use that in my sig?)

Sure, go ahead.

Originally Posted by HurriPen

Well, that may be the case, but I have my reasoning. You see, Malo has a burgeoning business here. Seeing how successful it is in Castle Town, it is not unlikely that he might set up shop back home eventually. Something tells me that Sera might die and Beth would have to care for her decrepit father. She would probably run the shop in her memory. It is rather obvious that she gains a thing for Colin, and it is likely to be mutual.

I am not certain of the details, but I believe that Colin will sacrifice much in order to save this store. He will probably make a Mephistophelean deal with Malo, giving his services as scout for certain transactions. This will make use of his elite animal-talking skills (Link probably could help, and monkeys are good at gestures and might aid his communication in order to learn bladed combat [three swords maximum for them: monkey see, monkey improve]). Perhaps he may even travel to Termina and bring Tingle back to act as a drain on the Rupee excess (yay Tingle). I mean, where else would the monkeys come from?

Who's to say Tingle's still alive, so many years after the setting of OOT? *crosses his fingers and hopes Tingle is dead*

Originally Posted by HurriPen

Also, I should like to rename the new unit currency: Malo's Mina. Unless you can find a better real-world m-related currency. Plus, it is also the word source for mines (Goron reference).

Malo's Moolah is catchier; the two words sound similar.