Something that will finally open your eyes, split and canon believers.

Here is a quote from TP. QUEEN RUTELA
This way...
I am deeply grateful to you for aiding my son in his time of need.
You were right to bring him here. Kakariko Village is a sacred place for the
Zora people. It is where we take our eternal rest.
My husband in life, King Zora, also rests his spirit here.
It is no coincidence my son found his salvation in this place.
...That which I have promised you is within this grave.
During his lifetime, my husband created garments specifically for the chosen
hero, garments that house the abilities of the Zora.Now, at last, I can join the king in slumber.
And yet... My son... He still knows nothing of my death.
If you see him again, please pass on this message...
Tell him he must not grieve his mother's passing. Tell him she wanted him to be
brave and live as the king of our people.
And... Tell him his mother...loves him without end. Tell him...

You see now, foolish ones? For long, you have supported the blind faith of Splitism, but now thou shalt see the light. She's refering to how King Zora made the Zora Tunic for the HOT. This wouldn't happen in your so called ''Child Timeline''[which is the timeline Splitists believes it goes in, once again, thanks to the false prophet], wouldn't it. Discuss. And now, I must edit my timeline.

Our eyes are aware, thank you.

Here's your eye-opener

When does Twilight Princess take place?

Aonuma: In the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years later.

–And the Wind Waker?

Aonuma: The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link’s time. In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction. In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power...

–And now we wait for the game to enjoy the rest of the story, huh? (laughs)

Aonuma: Well, that’s how things are. (laughs)

–There’s a reference to King Zora (the king of the Zora race in Ocarina of Time; his official name is Do Bon, the third), and there are some pictures of the man from the fishing pond (the owner of a fishing business near Lake Hylia in Ocarina of Time). You can get the feeling here and there that the events from Ocarina of Time happened some time ago.

Aonuma: Those things have a connection to Ocarina of Time, and we were not very sure of whether to include them or not, but the staff was having a good time, so those details just kept increasing.

I don't believe in canon, Splitist.That goes for interviews, too. The only exception I make are the games. You'd do well to remember that.

Originally Posted by Super Ganny

Here is a quote from TP. QUEEN RUTELA
This way...
I am deeply grateful to you for aiding my son in his time of need.
You were right to bring him here. Kakariko Village is a sacred place for the
Zora people. It is where we take our eternal rest.
My husband in life, King Zora, also rests his spirit here.
It is no coincidence my son found his salvation in this place.
...That which I have promised you is within this grave.
During his lifetime, my husband created garments specifically for the chosen
hero, garments that house the abilities of the Zora.Now, at last, I can join the king in slumber.
And yet... My son... He still knows nothing of my death.
If you see him again, please pass on this message...
Tell him he must not grieve his mother's passing. Tell him she wanted him to be
brave and live as the king of our people.
And... Tell him his mother...loves him without end. Tell him...

You see now, foolish ones? For long, you have supported the blind faith of Splitism, but now thou shalt see the light. She's refering to how King Zora made the Zora Tunic for the HOT. This wouldn't happen in your so called ''Child Timeline''[which is the timeline Splitists believes it goes in, once again, thanks to the false prophet], wouldn't it. Discuss. And now, I must edit my timeline.

perhaps the king made them, but being as TP is on the child timeline, perhaps the HoT never took them, but rather the king made them so as to be prepared. Also, HoT woulda had the Tunic, so why was it in King Zora's grave?

Thanks for the child timeline evidence.

I'd do well to remember not to associate with you.

Anyway, seeing as TP is indisputably in the child timeline, Taledin's explanation does make the most sense.

Originally Posted by Taledin

perhaps the king made them, but being as TP is on the child timeline, perhaps the HoT never took them, but rather the king made them so as to be prepared. Also, HoT woulda had the Tunic, so why was it in King Zora's grave?

Thanks for the child timeline evidence.

The HOT could've given it back to KZ after the IW. And before he left for Termina.

I have had enough of you Super Ganny.

If you would actually read the evidence then you would see just how absolutely ridiculous you are.
(back-flips across the room and holds Super Ganny at staff point)

It specifically said he made the garments for the chosen hero. The only hero to ever be referred to in this manner is the Link in Twilight Princess. Secondly, this can't possibly be the same King Zora from TP as it has been at least a hundred years and there has probably been a king or two since then. I see no reference to the Hero of Time at all in this game so your theory has been trumped yet again.

Oh and one more thing.... If you believe in the linear timeline then actually King Zora never did give any garments to Link and the events that happened seven years after the childhood never happened again. This idea is so absolutely false it pains me to think about it.

Thanks very much ASE for putting up with him and doing such a great job.

Originally Posted by Super Ganny

The HOT could've given it back to KZ after the IW. And before he left for Termina.

ok...fine...PROVE IT...
as for your sig...
the linear timeline was built on CANON info.
So I guess you should wipe your sig clean,or edit it...

Lmfao.
Ganny, read that quote again.
It says he MADE them for chosen hero, not GAVE them to chosen hero

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

I have had enough of you Super Ganny.

If you would actually read the evidence then you would see just how absolutely ridiculous you are.
(back-flips across the room and holds Super Ganny at staff point)

It specifically said he made the garments for the chosen hero. The only hero to ever be referred to in this manner is the Link in Twilight Princess. Secondly, this can't possibly be the same King Zora from TP as it has been at least a hundred years and there has probably been a king or two since then. I see no reference to the Hero of Time at all in this game so your theory has been trumped yet again.

Oh and one more thing.... If you believe in the linear timeline then actually King Zora never did give any garments to Link and the events that happened seven years after the childhood never happened again. This idea is so absolutely false it pains me to think about it.

Thanks very much ASE for putting up with him and doing such a great job.

Meh.

It's not that I fault SUper Ganny, he has been trying for ages to debacle any remmence of a duel timeline theory even though the most recent from the horse's mount clearly states there is one.

I respect his will and determination, however it's how he respondes after his "evidence" gets totally debacled that gets old.

Super Ganny: Your quote isn't news to anyone. We all saw it, it didn't change the theories one bit, just created more questions is all. I respect your linear theries, but frankly you will never prove there isn't duel timelines. Why? The word from the horses mouth. So long as Eji stands by his comments, so long you will not be able to debacle the duel timeline.

I respect your will do to so, but you needed to fully think through before you throw up "evidence". That means accepting the chance that there may in fact be duel timelines and look at it from there point of view. Just like some of us did looking back at it through a linear point of view.

You going for a record on locked threads or what granny? If this isn't working, why don't you make you arguements in other people's threads instead? Just some friendly advice.

He made them to be prepared. Seeing as how royalty would be the most likely to know that Ganondorf's execution was botched and that he held a piece of the Triforce, the Zora King probably made the garments for a chosen hero sent by the Goddesses in case Ganondorf ever escaped the Twilight Realm.

Also, why couldn't there be more than one Zora King?

Guys, why waste time on this guy? He thinks this is a religion. :/

Originally Posted by Super Ganny

She's refering to how King Zora made the Zora Tunic for the HOT.

She's referring to how King Zora made garments for the hero
which, in turn, is an homage to Adult OoT.

Aonuma: "We've taken references to games and made all kinds of changes."
(rough quote)

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

I have had enough of you Super Ganny.


Oh and one more thing.... If you believe in the linear timeline then actually King Zora never did give any garments to Link and the events that happened seven years after the childhood never happened again. This idea is so absolutely false it pains me to think about it.

What are you talking about, Splitist?

A message to everyone: Stop insulting Ganny just 'cause he's wrong and jumps to conclusions

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

I have had enough of you Super Ganny.

If you would actually read the evidence then you would see just how absolutely ridiculous you are.
(back-flips across the room and holds Super Ganny at staff point)

It specifically said he made the garments for the chosen hero. The only hero to ever be referred to in this manner is the Link in Twilight Princess. Secondly, this can't possibly be the same King Zora from TP as it has been at least a hundred years and there has probably been a king or two since then. I see no reference to the Hero of Time at all in this game so your theory has been trumped yet again.

Oh and one more thing.... If you believe in the linear timeline then actually King Zora never did give any garments to Link and the events that happened seven years after the childhood never happened again. This idea is so absolutely false it pains me to think about it.

Thanks very much ASE for putting up with him and doing such a great job.

Although ganny is wrong and I mostly agree with you, I do belive there are some inexusible refrences to the HOT in TP, infact I have a thread about it here: http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/...oma-wrong.html

As was mentioned in your thread, the Hero of Time is never explicitly mentioned. Therefore, it can be inferred that though the ancient hero/legendary hero that they refer to is indeed Ocarina of Time Link, he became known for something else other than travelling through time.

Originally Posted by Super Ganny

I don't believe in canon, Splitist.That goes for interviews, too. The only exception I make are the games. You'd do well to remember that.

Who do you think you are? General Washington? If you don't believe in canon, welcome to a world of false timelines. If Aonuma says it splits, he'll make it fit into a split. No way around it, so you mind as well stop being a timeline theorist now.

And calling people splitists makes you look ridiculous on top of that. The split timeline has been confirmed and there is nothing you can do about it.

But ok, I'll play along... If there isn't a split timeline, tell me what the hell happened to the time in which Link defeated Ganondorf in OoT and went back in time?
And do not even try to bring Termina and Link's time travels there in the discussion. Termina is an alternative dimension and we cannot know if it is real or not or if time works there as it does in the real world.

Admit defeat already. You are WRONG. It is said that King Zora made the garment for the chosen hero. He was grateful to child Link for saving Ruto, and he isn't king for no reason so he might have foreseen that Link is special and made it for him to take once the time comes. But to be frank this is most probably false but I'm just trying to say how you're theory is totally ridiculous. And anyway, we can never prove that the king in that quote is _the_ King Zora from OoT.

EDIT: Oh and I almost forgot, and you better read this, the ultimate proof of a split timeline.
It's Ganondorf himself.
Ganondorf in WW - Several quotes and his behavior towards Link indicate that he recognizes the tunic, and he knows that he is the HOT etc.
Ganondorf in TP - He has no idea who Link is and meets him for the first time in Castle Hyrule which indicates that they never met before, thus in the Child timeline of OoT where Link never fought Ganondorf.

Originally Posted by the_Predator

And calling people splitists makes you look ridiculous on top of that. The split timeline has been confirmed and there is nothing you can do about it.

But ok, I'll play along... If there isn't a split timeline, tell me what the hell happened to the time in which Link defeated Ganondorf in OoT and went back in time?
And do not even try to bring Termina and Link's time travels there in the discussion. Termina is an alternative dimension and we cannot know if it is real or not or if time works there as it does in the real world.

Admit defeat already. You are WRONG. It is said that King Zora made the garment for the chosen hero. He was grateful to child Link for saving Ruto, and he isn't king for no reason so he might have foreseen that Link is special and made it for him to take once the time comes. But to be frank this is most probably false but I'm just trying to say how you're theory is totally ridiculous. And anyway, we can never prove that the king in that quote is _the_ King Zora from OoT.

EDIT: Oh and I almost forgot, and you better read this, the ultimate proof of a split timeline.
It's Ganondorf himself.
Ganondorf in WW - Several quotes and his behavior towards Link indicate that he recognizes the tunic, and he knows that he is the HOT etc.
Ganondorf in TP - He has no idea who Link is and meets him for the first time in Castle Hyrule which indicates that they never met before, thus in the Child timeline of OoT where Link never fought Ganondorf.

The goddesses saw to it so there was no Split. And just because Ganondorf never said anything to Link, doesn't mean he didn't remember who he was. His targets were mostly Zelda and Midna.