Revelations from the official aLttP guide book.

Ok first of this is from the official strategy guide of aLttP made by Nintendo. I remembered that I have a printed version from the internet. I love to have a hard copy but haven't found one yet.

Now it says some interesting things:

The Legend of Zelda:
Although The Legend of Zelda appeared first in the series of Zelda adventures, it actually takes place many years after the third game. In this time, Hyrule had declined, becoming a rustic land with few remaining signs of its earlier glory.

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
The adventure of Link takes place several years after The Legend of Zelda.

A Link to the Past
Back in the mists of time, before the era of The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link, Hyrule was a land of fabulous places and magic. It was also a troubled land, and the divisions of Light and Dark were tearing it apart. The ogrigins of this conflict lay even deeper in the shadows of time, the coming of the Triforce and the greed of Ganondorf, King of Thieves.

So that tells us aLttP-La-LoZ-AoL

The Imprisoning War
In a period known as the Imprsoning War the King of Hyrule brought seven wise men together to seal the door to the Golden Land, for Ganon's evil power had been spilling forth, causing corruption and darkness. [..] At this time the Master Sword was forged.[...] The people of Hyrule may have forgotten about the Dark World, but the master of that evil land had not forgotten about Hyrule.

So that tells us Imprisoning War-OoT


As it comes straight from Nintendo questioning it is useless, the only argument possible against it is that Nintendo changed the timeline over the years. Still it is strong evidence to say some timelines have to be rewritten.

Originally Posted by Nictel

The Imprisoning War
In a period known as the Imprsoning War the King of Hyrule brought seven wise men together to seal the door to the Golden Land, for Ganon's evil power had been spilling forth, causing corruption and darkness. [..] At this time the Master Sword was forged.[...] The people of Hyrule may have forgotten about the Dark World, but the master of that evil land had not forgotten about Hyrule.

If we take this into more context. The King of Hyrule brought seven wise men together. But the King was already dead by the time the adult time line already happens. Also, the MS was already forged before OoT. If we take that into consideration, OoT, can not be the SW.

Originally Posted by Nictel

The Imprisoning War
In a period known as the Imprsoning War the King of Hyrule brought seven wise men together to seal the door to the Golden Land, for Ganon's evil power had been spilling forth, causing corruption and darkness. [..] At this time the Master Sword was forged.[...] The people of Hyrule may have forgotten about the Dark World, but the master of that evil land had not forgotten about Hyrule.

The Master Sword wasn't forged at the time of the Seal War, it was forged a long time before any Zelda games to date:

Originally Posted by Princess Zelda, TP

Head for the sacred grove that lies deep within the lands guarded by the spirit Faron. There you will find the blade of evil's bane that was crafted by the wisdom of the ancient sages...the Master Sword.

Originally Posted by ALttP Manual

The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that. However, it could not be assumed that only a good person would get their hands on the Triforce. For that reason, the people of Hyrule were told by the gods to make something that would repulse any evil that may kidnap the Triforce: the blade of evil's bane. It was called the Master Sword, and it is said that only a true hero could use it.

The Master Sword was made by the ancient sages long ago in case evil should ever obtain the Triforce.

Originally Posted by Nictel

Ok first of this is from the official strategy guide of aLttP made by Nintendo. I remembered that I have a printed version from the internet. I love to have a hard copy but haven't found one yet.

Now it says some interesting things:

The Legend of Zelda:
Although The Legend of Zelda appeared first in the series of Zelda adventures, it actually takes place many years after the third game. In this time, Hyrule had declined, becoming a rustic land with few remaining signs of its earlier glory.

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
The adventure of Link takes place several years after The Legend of Zelda.

A Link to the Past
Back in the mists of time, before the era of The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link, Hyrule was a land of fabulous places and magic. It was also a troubled land, and the divisions of Light and Dark were tearing it apart. The ogrigins of this conflict lay even deeper in the shadows of time, the coming of the Triforce and the greed of Ganondorf, King of Thieves.

So that tells us aLttP-La-LoZ-AoL

The Imprisoning War
In a period known as the Imprsoning War the King of Hyrule brought seven wise men together to seal the door to the Golden Land, for Ganon's evil power had been spilling forth, causing corruption and darkness. [..] At this time the Master Sword was forged.[...] The people of Hyrule may have forgotten about the Dark World, but the master of that evil land had not forgotten about Hyrule.

So that tells us Imprisoning War-OoT


As it comes straight from Nintendo questioning it is useless, the only argument possible against it is that Nintendo changed the timeline over the years. Still it is strong evidence to say some timelines have to be rewritten.

You have the ALttP/LA-LoZ/AoL right but OoT was not the seal war the timeline can't go like this OoT-ALttP.

It's not right. there are so many errors.

1. Ganon has the Trident in it proving it has to come after FSA.

2. The king did not hire the 7 sages to seal Ganon Link did.

3. When was there a war in OoT that wasn't the feirce war?

You see it desn't work.

Unless "A Link to the Past" takes place in the Child Timeline and not the Adult one, allowing for different circumstances than we've seen in the games so far. Maybe "Twilight Princess"'s sequel will shed some light on this?

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

Unless "A Link to the Past" takes place in the Child Timeline and not the Adult one, allowing for different circumstances than we've seen in the games so far. Maybe "Twilight Princess"'s sequel will shed some light on this?

That can't be either, for in the child line Ganon was arrested, failed to be executed, then sealed in the TR. It leaves no room for ALTTP to happen.

Sure it does. After "Twilight Princess".

Disregarding the error created by NoA (the Master Sword was forged long before the IW), there's no reason (and no way) to say that the Imprisoning War was before OoT. Other than that factual error (and the conclusion you made based on it), there is nothing there that's blatantly wrong. Then again, that there was a factual error leads me to believe that Nintendo guide books are not canon sources.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

Sure it does. After "Twilight Princess".

But ALttP offers no explanation for Ganon(dorf)'s revival after his death in TP, unless you also place FSA in the child timeline.

ALttP needs the Triorce to be:

a) in Ganon's hands
or
b) in the Sacred Realm.

Neither of these is or can be the case after TP, as of now.

I meant that the Imprisoning War takes place before OoT. Not that it is. But that was obviously not very clear. Anyway, I agree that it is hard and as we seen now that Nintendo decided to split the timeline. It can also mean that they have changed this now but can it possibly be like the following?

OoT (Adult)-WW-PH-(New Hyrule, no Master Sword as that is in old Hyrule)-TMC-FS-FSA

OoT(Child)-MM-TP-(Missing chapter)-OoA-OoS-(Missing Chapter)-aLttP-LA-LoZ-AoL
OR
OoT(Child)-MM-TP-(Missing chapter)-aLttP-OoA-OoS-LA-LoZ-AoL

I know the missing chapters are not very good (theory wise) but it is the only way to let it make sense. As for the oracle games the Triforce has to be complete and Link has to be able to visit it.

Originally Posted by Nictel

I meant that the Imprisoning War takes place before OoT.

Not possible.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

Not possible.

The Master Sword is made during the Imprissoning War or short before it, how can it not be before OoT?

That's a Nintendo of America error that doesn't appear in the Japanese manual (and that, in fact, runs contrary to it). In other words, it's incorrect information. The Master Sword was forged long before the Imprisoning War.

Ow I didn't know that, in that case throw your imprissoning war anywhere before aLttP though.

Ok new idea! The idea of a major war was shifted from TP to the new Wii Zelda during development (It would be a nice idea though, and the Wii is better capable of showing multiple enemies at the same time due to its better processor.)

Originally Posted by Nictel

The Master Sword is made during the Imprissoning War or short before it, how can it not be before OoT?

For more information on when the Master Sword was forged and by whom, check my first post in this thread.

Originally Posted by Sentient

But ALttP offers no explanation for Ganon(dorf)'s revival after his death in TP, unless you also place FSA in the child timeline.

Does it need to offer an explanation for his revival?

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

Does it need to offer an explanation for his revival?

Yes, unless you want to use fanfiction to explain his revival rather than in-game evidence.

What if the master sword in Alttp and the master sowrd after that are diffrent swords? You ever look at them? They look completely diffrent. And in TWW the sword is blue.

Originally Posted by Kiki

What if the master sword in Alttp and the master sowrd after that are diffrent swords? You ever look at them? They look completely diffrent. And in TWW the sword is blue.

There is only one Master Sword, unless you have evidence to the contrary.