Aonuma confirms split timeline? (again)

Until the interview is proven false, I stand with LexLionHart all the way. Whatever the outcome, at least it will benefit the timeline video.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

Either the group will continue on and fight for the linear time line or they disband.

So they go from "totally linear" to "mostly linear."

OMG, WHAT A CHANGE.

Originally Posted by MoALttP

This is one of the reasons I am not going to believe this interview. For all we know, it's a brilliantly-executed prank against the linear theorists.

This interview came out before the game did, in an entirely different season than April.

Originally Posted by Raian

Until the interview is proven false, I stand with LexLionHart all the way. Whatever the outcome, at least it will benefit the timeline video.

Supporting the split timeline goes against all values of the Wise Men. I believe Historian himself stated that within our constitution.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

This interview came out before the game did.

Well, I didn't know that. My computer can't display Japanese characters, and I can't read Japanese anyway, so I didn't bother to read it. However, if it came out before the game did, then why are we just finding out about it?

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

That is the very reason we were founded. We grouped together to support the linear timeline in a community which believed the contrary, the split timeline.

And now I suppose we, the splittists are only opposed by a sitting wise man?

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Historian grows weary from the constant arguing. Not even I, perhaps his closest companion, know how he will respond. But whether we fight on against ridicule or disband to go our own paths, we shall forever be Wise Men at heart.

These are quite touching last words master (wipes a tear from eye). But I'm 100% positive that historian will never give into supporting any split time line. Oh how he loathes us, lol, he would never join me.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

*shreds application form and steps on the pieces* There, you have my answer.

You will not even give into bribes?
This is not the master of ALttP that I thought lol.

I used to think that the single timeline theory was accurate until TP, then I started to think and came to the conclusion that since TP has no correlation to WW, I've come to believe that the split timeline theory makes far better sense and I hope that others will believe it as well.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Supporting the split timeline goes against all values of the Wise Men. I believe Historian himself stated that within our constitution.

The correct timeline > the constitution. If the constitution needs to be changed, then let it be so.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

And now I suppose we, the splittists are only opposed by a sitting wise man?

Peaceful protest. Violence and aggression never solve a thing. They only lead to more violence and aggression.

These are quite touching last words master (wipes a tear from eye). But I'm 100% positive that historian will never give into supporting any split time line. Oh how he loathes us, lol, he would never join me.

Perhaps, but I know him better than most, if not all, of you here. I know not what his actions shall be, as the recent months have worn him down, what with the mods and their conspiracy theories.

You will not even give into bribes?
This is not the master of ALttP that I thought lol.

Possessions are fleeting. Why accept what will ultimately be stripped from you?

Originally Posted by Raian

The correct timeline > the constitution. If the constitution needs to be changed, then let it be so.

We must see how Historian responds to this new information. I may end up changing my actions based on his.

Master X: TP has no correlation to any game. xD The only possible one would have involved the Mirror of Twilight, but it done got broken.

Anyway, I just wanted to state my official opinion on the matter. I'm returning to my ZU hiatus.

PS: And I never endorsed the Constitution anyway. xD

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

Master X: TP has no correlation to any game. xD The only possible one would have involved the Mirror of Twilight, but it done got broken.

Broke into a bazillion pieces, is what it did.

Anyway, I just wanted to state my official opinion on the matter. I'm returning to my ZU hiatus.

An opinion is hardly official. Hence it being called an opinion.

PS: And I never endorsed the Constitution anyway. xD

True, Historian never ran it by the rest of us. If that is how you shall be, then it was nice working with you, Lex. Perhaps we shall work again in the future, I know not. This changes nothing of our friendship, though.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Peaceful protest. Violence and aggression never solve a thing. They only lead to more violence and aggression.

Hmmmm protest all you want but the ASE headquarters is going to go over there and the ASE gift shop is going right where you are sitting.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Perhaps, but I know him better than most, if not all, of you here. I know not what his actions shall be, as the recent months have worn him down, what with the mods and their conspiracy theories.

In our brief correspondence together historian made it quite clear that he will never under any circumstances be a splittist and even if he did he would unfortunately be seen as the biggest hypocrite of all time. Ugh the mods, I don't think there's anything wrong with time line theorizing, it's quite an attraction actually. But what are these conspiracy theories?

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Possessions are fleeting. Why accept what will ultimately be stripped from you?

What will be stripped from me? Now that the split time line has been proven right I can sleep comfortably.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

We must see how Historian responds to this new information. I may end up changing my actions based on his.

Indeed. I look forward to his arrival. (hands Master some popcorn) I shall wait as well.

My official stance: On any subject where there is little evidence to support a definite conclusion, open-mindedness must take precedence. We know now that TP takes place in a Child Timeline, but we do not know anything else. We do not know how long Aonuma had decided to follow a split timeline, we do not know whether the Child Timeline encorporates any other games.

Taking everything into account, TP is too vague to create any inconsistencies between itself and the 2D games. TWW is harder to accept, but the ambiguity also gives it potential to carry on into the 2D games, as we have argued with the FS saga. Therefore, we should not be looking at the 2D games now in our discussion. The focus must be on OoT's relationship with TP.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

Hmmmm protest all you want but the ASE headquarters is going to go over there and the ASE gift shop is going right where you are sitting.

Fine then. I'll just sit inside, and you'll all be paying to keep me cool with your air conditioning.

In our brief correspondence together historian made it quite clear that he will never under any circumstances be a splittist and even if he did he would unfortunately be seen as the biggest hypocrite of all time. Ugh the mods, I don't think there's anything wrong with time line theorizing, it's quite an attraction actually. But what are these conspiracy theories?

True... Very true. Historian's had enough of being a hypocrite. He won't shift, I know it. He'll sit right here, next to me, and you'll also pay for his air conditioning.

What will be stripped from me? Now that the split time line has been proven right I can sleep comfortably.

The cold embrace of death strips you of all your worldly possessions. You can't take anything with you. Thus, possessions are fleeting.

Indeed. I look forward to his arrival. (hands Master some popcorn) I shall wait as well.

*takes popcorn* Yes, it should be rather interesting when he gets here. *puts in earplugs*

Originally Posted by Raian

My official stance: On any subject where there is little evidence to support a definite conclusion, open-mindedness must take precedence.

...I thank thee, Raian. In my stubbornness, I forgot one of my greatest mantras. Always keep an open mind. Despite me not agreeing with the split timeline, or supporting it, I believe I can bring myself to work on creating the most consistent one possible.

We know now that TP takes place in a Child Timeline, but we do not know anything else. We do not know how long Aonuma had decided to follow a split timeline, we do not know whether the Child Timeline encorporates any other games.

If the interview is real, that is. However, the timeline has been known to change at a moment's notice. This is only temporary.

*burns Cloaked Mystery's flag*
The colors were ugly.

I think its an early April Fool's joke. If its true, meh, not the end of the world. It can be worked around. If it can't, we can just split up our current timeline. :3

I'll wait to the 15th or so of April until I get worried about this.

Till then, I shall sit with Master and play my Gameboy.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

I prefer this theory to other split timelines, as they end up placing games on either side willy-nilly. They fail to take certain facts into consideration and apply the different events caused by the split to them. However, as I said, I am not going to support a split timeline of any form. It creates unnecessary confusion.

I've seen these theories, yet even to me they make no sense. I don't think the split was ever intended to separate the majority of the Zelda games, but merely to explain how the time travel worked in OOT. I think WW was more created to help "clean-up" any mess Zelda lore did in previous LOZ games. With a split created, Nintendo can focus on building a line in which Aonuma has direct control over the game plots and their placements, instead of having to spend time filling in the gaps that were created with the older games.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Some gaming magazine already released their April Fools' joke. This is one of the reasons I am not going to believe this interview. For all we know, it's a brilliantly-executed prank against the linear theorists.

The article was released before the game was if I'm not mistaken.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

Fine then. I'll just sit inside, and you'll all be paying to keep me cool with your air conditioning.

grrrrrr lol. (tells the builders to move the gift shop)

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

True... Very true. Historian's had enough of being a hypocrite. He won't shift, I know it. He'll sit right here, next to me, and you'll also pay for his air conditioning.

You can just sit there but you'll both have to pay twice as much for anything at the gift shop.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

The cold embrace of death strips you of all your worldly possessions. You can't take anything with you. Thus, possessions are fleeting.

(wraps self in ASE banner) ooo toasty warm. This banner will serve me well while alive.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

*takes popcorn* Yes, it should be rather interesting when he gets here. *puts in earplugs*

Yes, his initial reaction will be most interesting. But seriously, if all goes bad, you can always be a 'splititst elder'. No reason to waste all that talent. And that goes for any of the wise men....

Originally Posted by Black Omnimon

*burns Cloaked Mystery's flag*
The colors were ugly.

Till then, I shall sit with Master and play my Gameboy.

I thank both of you for your comradeship.

Originally Posted by Vaati

I think its an early April Fool's joke. If its true, meh, not the end of the world. It can be worked around. If it can't, we can just split up our current timeline. :3

I'll wait to the 15th or so of April until I get worried about this.

Lex said the interview was made before Twilight Princess was released. Chances are, it's not an April Fools' prank.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

(wraps self in ASE banner) ooo toasty warm. This banner will serve me well while alive.

"While alive" are the key words there.

Yes, his initial reaction will be most interesting. But seriously, if all goes bad, you can always be a 'splititst elder'. No reason to waste all that talent. And that goes for any of the wise men....

No Wise Man is to betray the proud organization set forth by our founder, LOZ Historian. If we are defeated, we shall not join up with anyone, but shall rather go our separate ways and seek wisdom and truth on our own.

Finally! An official stand from Aonuma!

I'm with Lex and Raian on this all the way. Timeline theorising is like science. We must adopt new ideas and keep an open mind.

I have a japanese friend who can take a look at it and translate it for me. I'll post the results once I have gotten in touch with him. This will take some time since it is night time here and I can't just call him and wake him up

We only need the first two questions translated, right?

Originally Posted by Uncle Meat

Finally! An official stand from Aonuma!

I'm with Lex and Raian on this all the way. Timeline theorising is like science. We must adopt new ideas and keep an open mind.

Not you too... *sigh* Oh well, it doesn't really matter.

I have a japanese friend who can take a look at it and translate it for me. I'll post the results once I have gotten in touch with him. This will take some time since it is night time here and I can't just call him and wake him up

We only need the first two questions translated, right?

Slur.exe is able to translate Japanese. We can have him translate tomorrow, if he doesn't take it upon himself to do it before we have to tell him to.

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

No Wise Man is to betray the proud organization set forth by our founder, LOZ Historian. If we are defeated, we shall not join up with anyone, but shall rather go our separate ways and seek wisdom and truth on our own.

We'll see about that. Every man has his price and a fancy splittist elder banner is always nice. Why not join up with the ASE and pursue wisdom and truth from the correct side this time. Look at all your achievements with an incorrect time line. Imagine what you all could do on the side with the right type of time line....I would be honored to have you all as members. (holds out hand) join me wise men.....