Aonuma confirms split timeline? (again)

Great. Just when I was starting to believe the UWM Theory. ;_;

Originally Posted by Black Omnimon

Great. Just when I was starting to believe the UWM Theory. ;_;

It only proves that MM and TP takes place in a Child Timeline. It does not prove that ALTTP and subsequent games take place in a Child Timeline.

From my current perspective, there is potential for ALTTP to take place after TP and TWW.

No... This cannot... I refuse to believe it! Call me foolish, I don't care. Call me stupid, I don't care. Call me ignorant, I don't care. I refuse to believe that the developers have opted for a split timeline!

(appears as if from nowhere)
Oh yes master of AlttP, believe it muahahaha (thunder clashes)
This is a glorious day for the ASE!! (runs to tell quick_silver the great news)

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

(appears as if from nowhere)
Oh yes master of AlttP, believe it muahahaha (thunder clashes)
This is a glorious day for the ASE!! (runs to tell quick_silver the great news)

No. *pulls sword from scabbard on waist* I am not going to believe this. When I joined the UWM, I swore that I would never fall to believe the split timeline. Even if my comrades fall to believe this absurd theory, I shall not. I shall stand firm and hold my ground, even if I end up being the only person to support the linear timeline. *sits down and sticks sword in the ground*

Originally Posted by Master of ALttP

No. *pulls sword from scabbard on waist* I am not going to believe this. When I joined the UWM, I swore that I would never fall to believe the split timeline. Even if my comrades fall to believe this absurd theory, I shall not. I shall stand firm and hold my ground, even if I end up being the only person to support the linear timeline. *sits down and sticks sword in the ground*

Dropping your weapon?
(raises staff) muahahaha wise men.
A strong oath indeed. And you are all indeed as trustworthy as I've been told.
But this is the end for you.

The source itself is quite credible actually. It's just the translation may alter what the interview is really talking about. Through different translators though, quite a few key words seem to support separating TP and WW.

It needs to be looked at more deeply I think. It's pretty close to supporting a split I'd say. But I wouldn't would my breath.

*draws sword and stands to the side of Master of ALttP*
I shall defend you!

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

Dropping your weapon?
(raises staff) muahahaha wise men.

No, not dropping my weapon. Merely placing it before me to be able to reach it easier when I see my chance to cut you down. It's rather difficult to grab a sword from your side when you're sitting, wouldn't you agree?

A strong oath indeed. And you are all indeed as trustworthy as I've been told.

I remain true to my cause. I shall not waver.

But this is the end for you.

We shall see. We shall see.

Originally Posted by Black Omnimon

*draws sword and stands to the side of Master of ALttP*
I shall defend you!

I need not protection. What I need is comradeship.

If this interview is kosher, the single timeline just died. tbqh, though, there's still no compelling reason for any games other than MM and TP to take place in a child split, especially considering the incompatibility of the state of the Triforce at the end of TP with its state in any of the 2D games.

There's a *remote* possibility that this *doesn't* confirm a split, but it would involve Aonuma retracting the original idea that TWW takes place after Adult Link defeats Ganon (it would now take place after this alleged execution and alternate sealing), and also that TWW being "parallel" to TP means something other than that TWW is happening "parallel" to TP on a different timeline. But that's a HUGE stretch, so I'm not even going to try to adopt it.

Point is, assuming TWW taking place after "Adult Link defeats Ganon" is still Nintendo's vision, TP was just specifically confirmed to take place in an alternate past created by Child Link, in which Ganondorf was captured when Link met Zelda in the past. TWW occurs parallel to TP.

*disappears again*

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

If this interview is kosher, the single timeline just died. tbqh, though, there's still no compelling reason for any games other than MM and TP to take place in a child split, especially considering the incompatibility of the state of the Triforce at the end of TP with its state in any of the 2D games.

There's a *remote* possibility that this *doesn't* confirm a split, but it would involve Aonuma retracting the original idea that TWW takes place after Adult Link defeats Ganon (it would now take place after this alleged execution and alternate sealing), and also that TWW being "parallel" to TP means something other than that TWW is happening "parallel" to TP on a different timeline. But that's a HUGE stretch, so I'm not even going to try to adopt it.

Point is, assuming TWW taking place after "Adult Link defeats Ganon" is still Nintendo's vision, TP was just specifically confirmed to take place in an alternate past created by Child Link, in which Ganondorf was captured when Link met Zelda in the past. TWW occurs parallel to TP.

*disappears again*

Although this is in fact a likely explanation, and one which I have often pondered about, I am in no mood right now to accept it. Instead, I shall sit here and just wait. *puts sword back in sheath, sits down, and lowers head*

Where is LOZ historian?
As his timeline slowly collapses I want him to be here.
Perhaps even he can save the day for the UWM.
(Hands Master of ALttP an ASE application form, places the ASE flag in ZU soil, flicks cloak and vanishes)

So I guess the UWM Theory will be revamped. I was just thinking that now there would be a split between fans who think ALttP-LA-LOZ-AOL are after TWW, and those who think ALttP-LA-LOZ-AOL are after TP.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

Where is LOZ historian?
As his timeline slowly collapses I want him to be here.
Perhaps even he can save the day for the UWM.
(places the ASE flag in ZU soil, flicks cloak and vanishes)

LOZ Historian is busy, as he often is, so I am remaining here to hold our ground. As long as I am here, there shall always be one who supports the UWM timeline. *takes sword from sheath, slices ASE flag into pieces, and sits back down*

Originally Posted by Black Omnimon

So I guess the UWM Theory will be revamped. I was just thinking that now there would be a split between fans who think ALttP-LA-LOZ-AOL are after TWW, and those who think ALttP-LA-LOZ-AOL are after TP.

This shall be one of the many, many splits which will come about because of the split timeline. All it shall do is make things more complicated than they really need to be.

In the split timeline I created, MM and TP were the only 2 games I placed in the child timeline. While a lot of speculation had to be made between the transitions of the game, it did make quite a bit of sense. I never could figure out how TP was to relate to WW.

This article seems to support that, even though we can't believe it's kosher yet. TP is essentially (as Lex said), an alternate time to Hyrule's future in OOT. TP is the parallel to WW in terms of being an alternate past to OOT.

The UWM theory will go as follows (if they choose to adopt a split), most likely:

OoT - MM - TP
OoT - TWW - PH - TMC - FS - FSA - ALttP - LA - OoS/OoA - LoZ - AoL

Hardly a change; they just now don't have to worry about MM and TP clashing with TWW, and Easter Eggs now officially have no meaning.

Of course, if "TWW is parallel" means that the events of TWW's backstory are "parallel" to TP (happening at the same time), then the single timeline wins. Unfortunately, TWW is said to take place after Adult Link defeated Ganon, which apparently didn't happen in the TP scenario, as Aonuma claims. Given that Aonuma directed both this game and TWW, his views on the storyline are a direct reflection of parts of the game that he oversaw, so the "two endings" quote, combined with this quote placing TP after Child events (but not adult events), effectively invalidates a single timeline if both quotes are still valid.

Master of ALttP: The UWM Theory will not collapse, it will merely change. Only if the article is real and correct, though.

Originally Posted by Riddle of Steel

In the split timeline I created, MM and TP were the only 2 games I placed in the child timeline. While a lot of speculation had to be made between the transitions of the game, it did make quite a bit of sense. I never could figure out how TP was to relate to WW.

I prefer this theory to other split timelines, as they end up placing games on either side willy-nilly. They fail to take certain facts into consideration and apply the different events caused by the split to them. However, as I said, I am not going to support a split timeline of any form. It creates unnecessary confusion.

This article seems to support that, even though we can't believe it's kosher yet. TP is essentially (as Lex said), an alternate time to Hyrule's future in OOT. TP is the parallel to WW in terms of being an alternate past to OOT.

Some gaming magazine already released their April Fools' joke. This is one of the reasons I am not going to believe this interview. For all we know, it's a brilliantly-executed prank against the linear theorists.

The wise men can't just 'adopt a new time line' lol.
Their very group stands for linearity.

LOZ Historian will never accept that LexLionHeart.
Either the group will continue on and fight for the linear time line or they disband.

(Hands Master of ALttP an ASE application form) it's not too late.

Originally Posted by Cloaked Mystery

The wise men can't just 'adopt a new time line' lol.
Their very group stands for linearity.

That is the very reason we were founded. We grouped together to support the linear timeline in a community which believed the contrary, the split timeline.

LOZ Historian will never accept that LexLionHeart.
Either the group will continue on and fight for the linear time line or they disband.

Historian grows weary from the constant arguing. Not even I, perhaps his closest companion, know how he will respond. But whether we fight on against ridicule or disband to go our own paths, we shall forever be Wise Men at heart.

(Hands Master of ALttP an ASE application form) it's not too late.

*shreds application form and steps on the pieces* There, you have my answer.