Complete Rito Evolution

Originally Posted by puppet_ganon445

one thing to say: same bloodline! do you need more evidence than DNA?

Yes, apparently they do. Nintendo tried to give more evidence by sticking Zora's Domain farther north to match up with Dragon Roost as well. Too bad not everything else matches up.

Lets look at this logically, ok? Starting from the beginning:

Obviously the original Legend of Zelda (LoZ) came first in '87, so we have this:

LoZ

Next, there was the Adventure of Link (AoL) a year later in '88, which obviously came after LoZ because it was a sequal to the game and no other Links had been thought of yet:

LoZ - AoL

Next came A Link to the Past (ALttP) which was meant to be a prequel to the two games, because it showed how Ganon first came to be (from the grave), and also had other elements which showed it logically as a sequel:

ALttP - LoZ - AoL

After that came Link's Awakening (LA), the first non-console Zelda game. This game, logically featured the same Link everyone loved at the time, the Link from ALttP, and is therefore believed to be a sequel; which is why they both look exactly the same in the official art, and why hes had such experience:

ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

After that, the Zelda series went into 3-dimensions with the ever popular Ocarina of Time (OoT) on the n64. This was meant to predate ALL of the Zelda games, because it showed the BS of ALttP where Ganon was sealed away. It was clearly meant to be a prequel to the series, clearing up many of the plot points, and making it a much deeper experience:

OoT - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

Next came Majora's Mask (MM) which was most obviously a direct sequel to OoT, in that it clearly featured the same Link, who looked the same, had the same items, same horse, same background, etc. This game is also the main reason timeline theorists are split into two divisions, but that aside, the order of the games so far is as follows:

OoT - MM - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

In this next time period, the Oracle of Seasons (OoS) and Oracle of Ages (OoA) games came out for the game boy color. These games were clearly following the hype of the n64 duo (OoT and MM). They contained elements of the games, obviously (characters, horse, items, etc.). These games dont honestly fit perfectly anywhere in the timeline. I beleive originally they belonged after the n64 games, but Capcom, not knowing much about Zeldaism, messed it up. Further evaluation of the games leads it to believe that they dont fit there at all. Now its believed they fit between LA and LoZ. Because of this debate they will be excluded for now, just to keep it simple.

Next Capcom came back with another boom in the Zelda series re-releasing ALttP along with a side game on the cartridge, Four Swords (FS), for the game boy advance. This is another game that didnt fit at all either, continuing Capcom's bashing of Zeldaism. Because of this, we will also exclude this game for the time being.

Soon after, the game everyone had been waiting for, the next fully 3D Zelda game came for the Gamecube. The Wind Waker (TWW/WW) answered some questions, but opened many more. This game was clearly once again following the now legacy of the n64 games, in that it talked constantly of the Hero of Time (Link in OoT and MM) and had characters such as Jabun (Lord Jabu Jabu) as well as stainglass windows surrounding the mastersword, picturing the sages from OoT. It can be logically inferred, because no other Links or heroes were mentioned that it continues as follows:

OoT - MM - WW - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

Next came Four Swords Adventures (FSA) on the gamecube. Although it wasnt 3D it was quite popular (even if I didnt like it) because of its party-like style like fans of FS could enjoy. This game was obviously a sequel to FS, in that it clearly featured the same Link, who knew of the Four Sword, and whatnot. So because we do not know where this and FS fit, we will assemble another timeline, not knowing exactly whereabout to place it:


OoT - MM - WW - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

FS - FSA

Next came the ever popular The Minish Cap (TMC) on gameboy advance. This game was clearly meant to be a prequel to FS and FSA because it showed how the villian in those games, Vaati, came to be such an aparision of evil. It also showed how the Four Sword came to be, coming form the "Picori Blade". So it would continue as follows:

OoT - MM - WW - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

TMC - FS - FSA

While we are assembling miniature timelines which we dont know where to place, Ill add the Oracle games in there:

OoT - MM - WW - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

TMC - FS - FSA

OoS/OoA

Next, last year, came what game? Twilight Princess (TP). While a popular game, it was a dissappointment to those who enjoyed WW. This was yet another game that followed the legacy of the n64 titles, in that it clearly featured the same hyrule, and descendants of all the n64 characters you came to love. However it never completely made sense to put it in between MM and WW chronilogically because if there was this other hero, other than the Hero of Time, wouldnt he also be mentioned in WW? This is evidence that Splitists (believers in a split-timeline when OoT Link was sent back in time in the end of the game). However, if TP took place in the "second" timeline, wouldnt there be no Hero of Time? Splitists believe that in the end of OoT, Link was sent back to warn the King of Ganon's intentions, as he held the Triforce of Courage within his body. This theory would make no sense either, because then there would be no Hero of Time and he would not be referenced in TP. So where exactly does TP fit? No ones entirely sure. The best we can do is put it between MM and WW because it is obviously in the same universe as the n64 games. A sequel is needed.

Our final timeline is as follows:


OoT - MM - TP - WW - ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL

TMC - FS - FSA

OoS/OoA

The FS and Oracle timelines are still not certain of their placement, and TP isnt either. But TP at least has some sensible evidence of its placement (i.e. referencing the Hero of Time, having a shiekah present, being in the same Hyrule, etc.)

Man, now I feel like a geek.

I never got into this, but after reading some of this, O_o WOW.....

Your Kakariko Theory is XP
Allow me to explain--They aren't Kakarikans, they are Hylians. Why would Hylians be Magicked into birds? Simple: They didn't.
Destined Hylians (castle town, Kakariko villagers) fled to Peak Province where they waited, and the climate got warmer. Eventually Wind Fall became of where they were and then created a town.
People of the Ordona province headed to the highest mountain in the province (off the map) to the west and settled on a mountain which later became Outset.

Zora's Domain area lines perfectly up with Death Mountain, even if you flip the map into Wii Style, Zora's domain would stay were it is, also it would be illogical, and mess up many of the nice match ups. Zora's domain can't match up with M&C Isles. The M&C Rocks are too small to become an island so substantial.

Let's never say TP happens after tWW, why? Because it's been proven by in game facts and developer quotes that it happens before tWW..... the only problem is whether it happens all in the same time line of perhaps after the adult/child ending....

I'm not splitist so I'll explain without adult/child. Zora's are hidding in on/in an island with fresh water. Which means Rito are a new race. Zora's of Labrynna and Holodrum never evolved because that country never got flooded, so some could have migrated to Hyrule.
But that question you asked is illogical

Originally Posted by Slur.exe

I never got into this, but after reading some of this, O_o WOW.....

Your Kakariko Theory is XP
Allow me to explain--They aren't Kakarikans, they are Hylians. Why would Hylians be Magicked into birds? Simple: They didn't.
Destined Hylians (castle town, Kakariko villagers) fled to Peak Province where they waited, and the climate got warmer. Eventually Wind Fall became of where they were and then created a town.
People of the Ordona province headed to the highest mountain in the province (off the map) to the west and settled on a mountain which later became Outset.

Zora's Domain area lines perfectly up with Death Mountain, even if you flip the map into Wii Style, Zora's domain would stay were it is, also it would be illogical, and mess up many of the nice match ups. Zora's domain can't match up with M&C Isles. The M&C Rocks are too small to become an island so substantial.


I'm not splitist so I'll explain without adult/child. Zora's are hidding in on/in an island with fresh water. Which means Rito are a new race. Zora's of Labrynna and Holodrum never evolved because that country never got flooded, so some could have migrated to Hyrule.
But that question you asked is illogical

So you think theyre hylians..?

Originally Posted by Daphnes

The grappling hook is similar to the hookshot, which you get in the Water Temple.

Error. In OoT, the hookshot is found on Dampé's grave, and on his diary, he says he found it while digging around the graveyard, which is host to many sheikah and Hyrule Royal Family graves (among other hylians). And what is the Longshot but more chain to the hookshot?

Also, in TWW, besides the grappling hook, there is a hookshot, found in the Wind Temple where you take Makar.

Gerudo became Rito.

Medli is a Rito/Zora hybrid.

Medli is the only one who is pale and has any relation to the Zora symbol.

The Gerudo wanted somewhere hot to live after their desert was flooded (Death Mountain now Dragon Roost Island).

Gerudo medallion from OoT has very similar design to Din's Pearl which the Rito possess. Also Din being the Goddess of Power would be what the Gerudo would have worshipped.

Originally Posted by Jarethan

Gerudo became Rito.

Medli is a Rito/Zora hybrid.

Medli is the only one who is pale and has any relation to the Zora symbol.

The Gerudo wanted somewhere hot to live after their desert was flooded (Death Mountain now Dragon Roost Island).

Gerudo medallion from OoT has very similar design to Din's Pearl which the Rito possess. Also Din being the Goddess of Power would be what the Gerudo would have worshipped.

(Frowns)

Please provide evidence for these claims..... pics would be helpful.

Originally Posted by Jarethan

Gerudo became Rito.

Medli is a Rito/Zora hybrid.

Medli is the only one who is pale and has any relation to the Zora symbol.

The Gerudo wanted somewhere hot to live after their desert was flooded (Death Mountain now Dragon Roost Island).

Gerudo medallion from OoT has very similar design to Din's Pearl which the Rito possess. Also Din being the Goddess of Power would be what the Gerudo would have worshipped.

What about the whole only one male born every 100 years?

I'm playing Wind Waker now, and while I do see a resemblence to the Gerudos to some extent, there are way more males than female.

Originally Posted by Bingo675

So you think theyre hylians..?

-_- NO! Didn't understand what I said!? I was explaining why they couldn't become, read the whole thing. And Maybe I should reword this:
They aren't called Kakarikans, they are called Hylians. Kakariko is only a village. Please, re-read it >_>

Originally Posted by sonataofstorms

What about the whole only one male born every 100 years?

I'm playing Wind Waker now, and while I do see a resemblence to the Gerudos to some extent, there are way more males than female.

That is because they aren't Gerudo, this has really gotten out of control--about what people think evolved. I'm surprised no one has said Deku Scrubs became Rito. The Gerudo desert matches up with the Islet of Steel and area. Plus we never saw Gerudo again, probably because Ganny died. The group went into out right civil war, lesbian gerudo Vs. Straight...>>

Originally Posted by Slur.exe

-_- NO! Didn't understand what I said!? I was explaining why they couldn't become, read the whole thing. And Maybe I should reword this:
They aren't called Kakarikans, they are called Hylians. Kakariko is only a village. Please, re-read it >_>

Oh. You just worded it badly. And we know, were talking about the people who lived there and what they did. Its just like Chinese and American, both humans.

Originally Posted by Slur.exe

That is because they aren't Gerudo, this has really gotten out of control--about what people think evolved. I'm surprised no one has said Deku Scrubs became Rito. The Gerudo desert matches up with the Islet of Steel and area. Plus we never saw Gerudo again, probably because Ganny died. The group went into out right civil war, lesbian gerudo Vs. Straight...>>

They must have gone extinct between OoT and TP, because there was no male to...do their stuff with. This was such a dissappointment.

Originally Posted by Bingo675

They must have gone extinct between OoT and TP, because there was no male to...do their stuff with. This was such a dissappointment.

And what about the FSA gerudos .

Originally Posted by Bingo675

Well, that's entirely possible. Hm... No comments on my genetics comments? That's strange...

That is why they rape Hylians. *cough*

Oh. You just worded it badly. And we know, were talking about the people who lived there and what they did. Its just like Chinese and American, both humans.

Oh sorry I worded it badly T_T

Originally Posted by exididaniel

And what about the FSA gerudos

Don't look at me O_o

Originally Posted by exididaniel

And what about the FSA gerudos .

There were gerudos in FSA?

Isn't FSA before OoT in the timeline?

Just guessing (I'm not a timeline expert).

(And yes, there are Gerudo in FSA.)

Originally Posted by Lightweight

Isn't FSA before OoT in the timeline?

Just guessing (I'm not a timeline expert).

(And yes, there are Gerudo in FSA.)

No FSA is way after.

And sweet! When exactly?

Gerudo's and Hylians then to cover the lack of males. Whatever. I'm just saying Rito and Gerudo share many similarities. Critical thinking people...

Gerudo's and Hylians then to cover the lack of males. Whatever. I'm just saying Rito and Gerudo share many similarities. Critical thinking people...

Yes, but Medli's ancestor was a Zora. Zora's look more like Rito, Gerudo are mostly female. This time around there are more males.
Tell me the similarities you found between Zora-Gerudo.

Yes Medli's ancestor was a Zora, and the other one was a Rito...

Rito come from Gerudo, and have no relation to Zora, so Gerudo wouldn't either.

So similarities between Zora and Gerudo are irrelevant, I have idea why you are asking that.

As I said before, Hyruleans and Gerudo could have both turned into Rito or Gerudo and Hyruleans became an integrated race over time. Take Telma from TP as an example and the lack of Gerudo in TP, she could easily be offspring of Hyruleans and Gerudo.

The logical reason for lack of Zora in TWW isn't turning into Rito. They lived on Greatfish Isle and worshipped Jabun and held control of Nayru’s Pearl. They were killed along with the destruction of their home.

Sorry I meant Gerudo and Rito. Tell me the similarities between Gerudo and Rito.

Originally Posted by Slur.exe

Sorry I meant Gerudo and Rito. Tell me the similarities between Gerudo and Rito.

Tan skin is about it...