OoT: Are we seeing a Resident Evil situation occurring?

-The events of Adult OoT occur because of what transpires in Child OoT.
-The events of MM occur because of what transpires in Adult OoT.

Thus lies the problem. MM occurs in the past but is the direct result of events in the future. We cannot say that the events of OoT's ending then contribute to the future because they don't; they contradict what occurs in the future. So unless we can say that MM occurs in the future or in a split timeline, we cannot explain how the events transpire. Since the split timeline is now defunct, we must explain how the events in the past and the future merge together to lead into the rest of the timeline without inconsistencies.

In effect, this is a Resident Evil scenario.
-In Chris's game, Barry died.
-In Jill's game, Rebecca died.
-Resident Evil 2's prologue stated that both characters survived the mansion despite this being impossible according to either scenario.

-In Child OoT, Zelda gave Link the Ocarina, which led into Adult OoT.
-In OoT's ending, Zelda gave Link the Ocarina, which led into MM.
-Whichever point that Zelda gives Link the Ocarina renders the other event impossible, yet the result of both events occurs in TP all the same.

Maybe I'm wrong on this but I think it is likely that TP will simply refer to both Adult OoT and MM without actually explaining how both events can plausably occur in the same timeline. It might exist as a retelling of events, like TWW did when it said that a young boy sealed away Ganon with the Master Sword. Likewise, no definite progression of events for Resident Evil were given in later games in the series. The mansion incident simply occurred and the following plotline was the result of a merger of the two scenarios.

They made Resident Evil before RE 2, so they weren't think of the story and the impact. Same with OoT. TP hasn't "yet" truely destroyed the split timeline, I must agree with others on the idea that we should wait and see approch. I got a little carried away earlier, as did most. with TSA's "destroys Split Timeline," So, let's just hope TP clears all this up.

My younger brother is a big fan of the fighting genre (he's been playing MK:A in the next room for a couple of weeks straight), and I realised long ago that, however indecipherable we think the Zelda continuity may be, it doesn't hold a candle to MK or SF which may have as many as 20 contradictory endings in a single instalment, with the next release proving as few as 3 to be true.

If it came down to it, we could deal with such a process TP. But, IMO, the rejection of the hope for a contradiction free timeline would have wider felt effects, especially in relation to the SW.

You know, the Japanese intro never said it was a young boy that sealed the evil being. They just said it was a person, IIRC. He was still referred to as the Hero of Time, though. Even so, they still talk about dressing children in green upon them reaching the Hero's age, so it may be a moot point.

Originally Posted by Majoras

zelda=the best game ever
RE=???????....good game

Don't put down Resident Evil in front of me. It has the best timeline next to Zelda and gameplay (IMO) as good as Zelda.

Resident Evil is a great game, I just really never got into it that much, mainly because my wife can't stand scary stuff. But tell me, couldn't Link go back in time and the seal remain on Ganondorf? I've never seen anything saying it can have happened?

Originally Posted by Dr_bryan

But tell me, couldn't Link go back in time and the seal remain on Ganondorf?

No. If the seal is sealed across time, it must also be able to be broken across time. This creates countless paradoxes, such as the seal being cast before it's cast, and broken without being broken.

Could that not explain how Ganondorf escapes in TWW?

No. Its still illogical.

Imagine a blue ball, existing "outside time", the ball, existing in a sigle moment of its own universe, touches every point of our time.

At first you would imagine that, were I to paint the ball red, it would suddenly be red in all times.
But there are many problems:
(A) The ball is already blue in the future. If it is touching all moments of our time, then it is still blue at the end of the universe and, therfore, could never have been painted red.
(B) If the ball would be red from the begining of time. If it is touching all moments of our time, then it has always been red, and, therefore, I ha no reason to paint it in the first place.

Introduce on top of that another problem: "I want to paint the red ball (not the blue) yellow" (I want to break the existent seal) and your problems compound, landing you knee deep in half a dozen paradoxes.

Originally Posted by Dr_bryan

Resident Evil is a great game, I just really never got into it that much, mainly because my wife can't stand scary stuff. But tell me, couldn't Link go back in time and the seal remain on Ganondorf? I've never seen anything saying it can have happened?

No. The sealing is the consequence of the events of OoT, so OoT must happen for the sealing to be triggered.

Maybe Ganondorf wasn't sealed in the future but only in the past. Once Ganondorf was Defeated, The sages with the help of Zelda sent Link and Ganondorf back in time to the very point Link enters the sacred realm along with Ganondorf. Link then seals the other Link and Ganondorf inside... so now Link(1) is trapped in the Sacred Realm forever along with Ganondorf, only He manages to escape sometime in the future While Link(2) is off saving the world in other places...

You know at first that sounded a whole lot better. *shrugs* oh well

The fact that you don´t see Rebbeca or Barry escape the mansion doesn´t mean they didn´t make it on their own...

The only way Link could get the Ocarina from Zelda prior to Majora's Mask is if he returned to a point in time prior to the Door of Time having been opened. I went into some detail with this in the thread dedicated to whether or not Termina existed in the same universe/on the same timeline as Hyrule.

If you remember in MM, when you first grab the Ocarina from Skull Kid, you have a flashback. This flashback is Zelda asking/noting you are going on an adventure away from Hyrule, and you should take the Ocarina. Zelda fleeing the castle and Link getting the Ocarina never happens.

I'd guess (with no real basis) that Link and Zelda got to know each other somewhat. I'd wonder if young Zelda would have any idea what Link was or how he was the Hero of Time, but she did give Link the Ocarina before he set out into the woods, or wherever MM starts out.

Originally Posted by Raian

-The events of Adult OoT occur because of what transpires in Child OoT.
-The events of MM occur because of what transpires in Adult OoT.

Thus lies the problem. MM occurs in the past but is the direct result of events in the future. We cannot say that the events of OoT's ending then contribute to the future because they don't; they contradict what occurs in the future. So unless we can say that MM occurs in the future or in a split timeline, we cannot explain how the events transpire. Since the split timeline is now defunct, we must explain how the events in the past and the future merge together to lead into the rest of the timeline without inconsistencies.

In effect, this is a Resident Evil scenario.
-In Chris's game, Barry died.
-In Jill's game, Rebecca died.
-Resident Evil 2's prologue stated that both characters survived the mansion despite this being impossible according to either scenario.

-In Child OoT, Zelda gave Link the Ocarina, which led into Adult OoT.
-In OoT's ending, Zelda gave Link the Ocarina, which led into MM.
-Whichever point that Zelda gives Link the Ocarina renders the other event impossible, yet the result of both events occurs in TP all the same.

Maybe I'm wrong on this but I think it is likely that TP will simply refer to both Adult OoT and MM without actually explaining how both events can plausably occur in the same timeline. It might exist as a retelling of events, like TWW did when it said that a young boy sealed away Ganon with the Master Sword. Likewise, no definite progression of events for Resident Evil were given in later games in the series. The mansion incident simply occurred and the following plotline was the result of a merger of the two scenarios.

No...

Adult Timeline: Adult Link is sent back to his child-timeline and a few hundreds years later TWW occurs.

This is when the split is supposed to take place.

Child Timeline: Link travels to Termina and a few hundred years later TP occurs.

Guys, this thread was started last year in November. It was clearly made before TP was played. Why are you replying to it now? Raian knows about the split now...

Twilight Hunter bumped the thread. I didn't even realize it was this old.

And so we see the problems created when noobs revive dead threads.