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Old 11-11-2006, 07:41 PM
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Question Zelda and Link sibling?

I have had this theory that Link and Zelda are brother in sister, here are my reasons for this:

1. In the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Link is living with his Uncle, which isn’t that odd because Link has never lived with his parents, but in the beginning of the game his uncle leaves to ‘protect’ the castle. Many people say that that’s because he is a guard, but if you recall all the guards have been taken over, which means he owes some sort of loyalty to the princess herself could it be they are related?
2. In that same scene Zelda contacts Link out of nowhere, why Link? And how? I have seen documentaries about twins that can almost feel what the other is feeling when they are endanger. Is it possible that Link has this sort of link to Zelda?
3. In the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Link was raised in the Deku Trees village. When the Deku Tree is dying he tells Link a story about links mother, how she came from hyrule with baby Link trying to get him away from there, but they never mention Links father. When they talk about Zelda’s parents they only mention her father the king of hyrule, what happened to the queen?
4. When Zelda and Link meet Zelda tells Link a story about the triforce. In this story it talks about how the gods created it to keep balance and how only royalty could posses it? Then why does Link get the triforce of courage at the end of the game? How is he royalty?
5. And if that’s not enough tying into royalty for you, when Link meet Impa she tells him that there is a royal family song, and only people within the royal family can know of this song. It just so happens she teaches Link this song. Again, how does Link tie into the royal family?
6. Later in the game after Link gets the master sword a masked figure helps Link in his quest, this figure is named Sheik. When many people guess who Sheik was I got a lot of people answering, “maybe its Link from a further future come to help himself.” But wrong they where for it happened to be Zelda. This only says one thing LINK AND ZELDA LOOK ALIKE!
7. And finally, many of you are now saying, “What! They can’t be related! They are going out, that’s sick! But if you look at the endings of all the games, do they really say that Link and Zelda have a love relationship? If you where to compare Link and Zelda’s relationship to Mario and Peach or Luke and princess Laya which is it closer to?
8. this is kind of debated but some people say that in a LINk to the Past someone says "Zelda is your..." but im not sure of this, what do you think hes going to say?

so I was wondering if anyone else thought this or if im alone on this issuse...
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:00 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

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I have had this theory that Link and Zelda are brother in sister, here are my reasons for this:
Ah, the classic conspiracy theory. Okay, let's take a look at this.

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1. In the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Link is living with his Uncle, which isn’t that odd because Link has never lived with his parents, but in the beginning of the game his uncle leaves to ‘protect’ the castle. Many people say that that’s because he is a guard, but if you recall all the guards have been taken over, which means he owes some sort of loyalty to the princess herself could it be they are related?
That's called feudalism. Less wealthy people swear their allegiance and services to the king, and in return, they are given land and other things, such as protection. In Hyrule, this seems to work in a similar way. Because Link is known to be a Knight of Hyrule, Link's uncle must therefore be a Knight of Hyrule. The Knight Family is sworn to protect the Royalty of the Hylia, so that means Link's uncle had to go to the castle to honor that oath.

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2. In that same scene Zelda contacts Link out of nowhere, why Link? And how? I have seen documentaries about twins that can almost feel what the other is feeling when they are endanger. Is it possible that Link has this sort of link to Zelda?
Remember, Zelda is telepathic. She can control her thoughts to send to other people. Because Link and his uncle are more Hylian than other people we see in Hyrule, and they were the same distance from the castle, they were able to hear the same message. It wasn't a specific message sent to one person. Instead, it was more of a multi-frequency distress signal. She'd have better chances of being rescued if she sent it out over all "frequencies".

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3. In the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Link was raised in the Deku Trees village. When the Deku Tree is dying he tells Link a story about links mother, how she came from hyrule with baby Link trying to get him away from there, but they never mention Links father. When they talk about Zelda’s parents they only mention her father the king of hyrule, what happened to the queen?
You have a thing or two to learn about how things used to work in the Middle Ages. Back then, people lived in a male-dominated society. Even today, society is controlled by men. Hence establishment being called "the man," and not "the woman." Additionally, we have no evidence for the Queen to be dead. A lack of evidence does not constitute as evidence, but it does bring up possibilities. Also, Link's father was presumably a Knight of Hyrule. Only a Knight can wield the Master Sword, and seeing as it's an inherited title, Link's father had to have been a Knight as well. He most likely died in battle, perhaps to defend Link's mother as she fled for the Lost Woods.

[quote]4. When Zelda and Link meet Zelda tells Link a story about the triforce. In this story it talks about how the gods created it to keep balance and how only royalty could posses it? Then why does Link get the triforce of courage at the end of the game? How is he royalty?[quote]
They never say that only royalty can posess the Triforce. Only those of noble bloodlines are told the tale, and seeing as how Link is a Knight of Hyrule, he was able to hear it. Despite not knowing he was a Hylian until later in the game (really, I wasn't expecting that) he could still be told the tale. I mean, it's not every day that some guy from your dreams comes holding a green rock, now is it?

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5. And if that’s not enough tying into royalty for you, when Link meet Impa she tells him that there is a royal family song, and only people within the royal family can know of this song. It just so happens she teaches Link this song. Again, how does Link tie into the royal family?
Under normal conditions, the song is only taught to members of the Royal Family. However, seeing as Princess Zelda posesses psychic abilities, Impa could trust Link with knowing the song.

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6. Later in the game after Link gets the master sword a masked figure helps Link in his quest, this figure is named Sheik. When many people guess who Sheik was I got a lot of people answering, “maybe its Link from a further future come to help himself.” But wrong they where for it happened to be Zelda. This only says one thing LINK AND ZELDA LOOK ALIKE!
Lots of people look alike. I sometimes see some guy in my school who looks like one of my old friends, but I don't go saying they're related.

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7. And finally, many of you are now saying, “What! They can’t be related! They are going out, that’s sick! But if you look at the endings of all the games, do they really say that Link and Zelda have a love relationship? If you where to compare Link and Zelda’s relationship to Mario and Peach or Luke and princess Laya which is it closer to?
8. this is kind of debated but some people say that in a LINk to the Past someone says "Zelda is your..." but im not sure of this, what do you think hes going to say?
First off, Zelda and Link are not "going out" in any game. They are of two different classes in society, and people in those times and societies could really only marry within their social class. Furthermore, we have the "Superhero Obligation" in which the hero cannot have a romance of any sort in order to protect the people they care for. You also fail to give us the choice of Link and Zelda being good friends. Link's like one of those feminine guys you see hanging around a bunch of girls, but the main difference is that he'll actually get blood on his hands and he's not in any way, despite what some people say, a homosexual. And as for that last line, it was from a dark time. A time when translations were poor. A time when all your base are belong to us.

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so I was wondering if anyone else thought this or if im alone on this issuse...
Yeah, you're pretty much alone on this. It is an interesting idea, and would be a great plot twist in a future Zelda game, but as of yet Link and Zelda have no relationship beyond being good friends. Friendship is a strong virtue within the Zelda games, one that is not in very many games these days.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:12 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

well the only person who knows the answer is the makers of htem game themselves, so the answer could go either way, I'm just stating some things that could point toward it. Oh, and about your comment that Link's father is said to be a knight of hyrule, I have plaid OoT many times and I'm sure they don't mention his father at all.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:21 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

ZAlthough the manga isn't considered canon, his dad is a knight there. And, once stated by someone, "if osmething in the manga cannot be disproved by anything in the game, it czan be considered canon' Since nothing in the game said his dad isn't a knight, it can be considered true that he is.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:25 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

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ZAlthough the manga isn't considered canon, his dad is a knight there. And, once stated by someone, "if osmething in the manga cannot be disproved by anything in the game, it czan be considered canon' Since nothing in the game said his dad isn't a knight, it can be considered true that he is.
I was the one who said that about comic canon. It can be considered canon, but it must be taken with a grain of salt. Larger grain of salt than what the developers say, but far smaller than what fanfictions say. Nn infinitesimally smaller grain of salt than what you take with fanfiction material.

As for Link's father being a Knight, I have proof. Link wields the Master Sword. ALttP says that only a Knight of Hyrule can wield the Master Sword and the the Knights of Hyrule are a distinct bloodline, so therefore, the Hero of Time's father must be a Knight of Hyrule.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:33 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

the only problem I have with adding the comics in to the pictures is that they are really aren't maked by the real makers of the game, if you add that in you might also have to add the cartoon show and those I-CD games into the picture and well all know that, that's not going to happen! I do agree with master of ALttP though, it does say that and I must say you are very knowledgeable in these matters and have given me a lot to think about. It seems that I do have a few holes that need to be filled. But you have to admit it would be an interesting plot idea for TP or some other future game.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:36 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

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6. Later in the game after Link gets the master sword a masked figure helps Link in his quest, this figure is named Sheik. When many people guess who Sheik was I got a lot of people answering, “maybe its Link from a further future come to help himself.” But wrong they where for it happened to be Zelda. This only says one thing LINK AND ZELDA LOOK ALIKE!
In addition to what MoALTTP sais about this point, I feel I should point out that when it comes to the graphics of the N64 (the gamecube versions still use besically the same graphics) the only part that could really be compared to determine that they look alike is the face. And as the only part of Sheik's face that can be seen is blonde hair and blue eyes. Which yes, both Link and Zelda have, but I have brown hair and brown eyes, as do a lot of my friends, this does not mean that we are related. Anyone could have very easily picked almost any other character out of the game that happened to have blonde hair and blue eyes and said that this particular person was Sheik, so this point doesn't really help to prove, OR disprove, anything.

All in all this seems like a very interesting theory on a whole, but the evidence you give just has too many other reasonable explinations to prove that your theory is correct.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

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In addition to what MoALTTP sais about this point, I feel I should point out that when it comes to the graphics of the N64 (the gamecube versions still use besically the same graphics) the only part that could really be compared to determine that they look alike is the face. And as the only part of Sheik's face that can be seen is blonde hair and blue eyes. Which yes, both Link and Zelda have, but I have brown hair and brown eyes, as do a lot of my friends, this does not mean that we are related. Anyone could have very easily picked almost any other character out of the game that happened to have blonde hair and blue eyes and said that this particular person was Sheik, so this point doesn't really help to prove, OR disprove, anything.9
you can also see some of shiek's nose, which they both have similar styles which not all characters have. I would also like to point out the closeness of Link and Zelda weight and height ratio...
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

Once again, similarities do not mean related. For instance, I look nothing like my sister, yet we are related. Just because there are similarities doesn't mean they are related, just like no similarity wouldn't mean they they were not related.


Now I don't know about you but I see only enough nose to know that it is a nose, not enough to know exactly what the rest of it looks like.

And as for her weight/height, remember that she is in disquise and it seems like she could have changed things a bit, for instance, I doubt that she has such a flat chest. (I can't know for sure, as I cannot find a decent picture of the OoT adult Princess Zelda to tell from) But my point is that if she could change something like that, could she not also change her height and/or weight?
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

when I was compairing Link and Zelda's height and weight I wasn't talking about through shiek but more of when they are the temple of time and Zelda is incased in the crystal made by gannon. Another thing is I'm not saying that I'm right for sure, most of my stuff is speculation and could probably go either way. As I have already said their is no way to tell for sure if someone is right besides to go to the source of the game its self.

Oh yeah this is a bit off the topic of looking alike but I was sure that Zelda said Link in the beginning of aLttP I guess I was wrong. I still find it odd that Link's Uncle was the only knight or gaurd to owe other loyaltys, I mean usaully most gaurd owe loyalty to their kings right? That makes me wonder why they gave up those loyalties
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:19 PM
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Well I would love to coutinue to debate my flaws and my thoughts on this matter, because thats the only way to get better. But at the moment I must get going so I will say goodbye for now and maybe we can do this another time, if and when I can get some more solid ideas.
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

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1. In the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Link is living with his Uncle, which isn’t that odd because Link has never lived with his parents, but in the beginning of the game his uncle leaves to ‘protect’ the castle. Many people say that that’s because he is a guard, but if you recall all the guards have been taken over, which means he owes some sort of loyalty to the princess herself could it be they are related?
Link's uncle is a descendant of the Hylian knights, and feels obligated to, that and he was probably contacted by Zelda.
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2. In that same scene Zelda contacts Link out of nowhere, why Link? And how? I have seen documentaries about twins that can almost feel what the other is feeling when they are endanger. Is it possible that Link has this sort of link to Zelda?
LINK IS HYLIAN. THERE ARE VERY FEW HYLIANS LEFT. THEY ARE TELEPATHIC.
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3. In the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Link was raised in the Deku Trees village. When the Deku Tree is dying he tells Link a story about links mother, how she came from hyrule with baby Link trying to get him away from there, but they never mention Links father. When they talk about Zelda’s parents they only mention her father the king of hyrule, what happened to the queen?
There is never mention of a queen.
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4. When Zelda and Link meet Zelda tells Link a story about the triforce. In this story it talks about how the gods created it to keep balance and how only royalty could posses it? Then why does Link get the triforce of courage at the end of the game? How is he royalty?
According to you, Ganondorf is Hyrulian royalty, and related to Link and Zelda.
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5. And if that’s not enough tying into royalty for you, when Link meet Impa she tells him that there is a royal family song, and only people within the royal family can know of this song. It just so happens she teaches Link this song. Again, how does Link tie into the royal family?
He needs to show that he has a connection, so they provide him one, he'd need it, considering there sending him to places on a royal mission.
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6. Later in the game after Link gets the master sword a masked figure helps Link in his quest, this figure is named Sheik. When many people guess who Sheik was I got a lot of people answering, “maybe its Link from a further future come to help himself.” But wrong they where for it happened to be Zelda. This only says one thing LINK AND ZELDA LOOK ALIKE!
What. The. Crap. That makes perfect sense, except for the part where it doesn't. I have a friend who looks like Johnny Depp, but that does not make them related.
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7. And finally, many of you are now saying, “What! They can’t be related! They are going out, that’s sick! But if you look at the endings of all the games, do they really say that Link and Zelda have a love relationship? If you where to compare Link and Zelda’s relationship to Mario and Peach or Luke and princess Laya which is it closer to?
That is not even valid, have a cookie.
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8. this is kind of debated but some people say that in a LINk to the Past someone says "Zelda is your..." but im not sure of this, what do you think hes going to say?
The SNES version of ALttP is known to be more poetic than valid. It has multiple translation errors in it, and as a result, things like that are not considered canon.

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Old 11-20-2006, 05:52 PM
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Re: Zelda and Link sibling?

If only royalty can have the Triforce, then how does Ganondorf get the Triforce of Power, unless you count the fact that the one male born every 100 years is the leader of the Gerudos, but that has no bearing on the royalty of Hyrule...

Impa taught Zelda's Lullaby to Link because Zelda trusted him and thought he needed to know.

Link met Shiek when he was in the future part of the game... how much farther into the future can you get? No Zelda game has more than two times going on in the same game.

and by the way, it's spelled Leia
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