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Old 10-22-2006, 10:47 PM
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ALTTP before TWW??

i made a theory, could it be that alttp could be before tww?,
after all in alttp the hylian language was already lost, but there were still places from the know hyrule like death mountain, lake hylia.

even tho the hylian language is lost by then there are books in the library to translate the language (book of mudora) so it is not completly lost like its in tww.

also in the intro it says:

"This is but one of the legends of which the people speak... Long ago, there existed a kingdom where a golden power lay hidden. It was a prosperous land blessed with green forests, tall mountains, and peace. But one day, a man of great evil found the golden power and took it for himself. With its strength at his command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then, when all hope had died, and the hour of doom seemed at hand... a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding the blade of evil’s bane, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light. This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the Hero of Time."

it doesnt mention a child from the forest like in oot zelda's dream, it says as if from nowhere, also doesnt make mention of the triforce (understandable because it is no known) but still it mentions the golden power (in alttp they refer to the triforce as the golden power).

And comes the problem with my theory... it says the boy who traveled through time, hero of time...

tell me what you think about it... thanks in advance.

edit// oh i just finished fighting ganon in tww he looked like he died also if tww takes place before alttp how on hyrule did the sword got from ganons had to the lost woods? =) another proof if you could say =)
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:08 PM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

Here we go again.

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after all in alttp the hylian language was already lost, but there were still places from the know hyrule like death mountain, lake hylia.

even tho the hylian language is lost by then there are books in the library to translate the language (book of mudora) so it is not completly lost like its in tww.
While this have not been truly explained, it can be assumed that the Book of Mudora was written during or shortly after OoT, and was carried to the mountaintops during the flood, and contained information not only on the Hylian language, but on Hyrule's landmarks as well, and thus the names, in keeping with tradition or something, were carried over.

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it doesnt mention a child from the forest like in oot zelda's dream, it says as if from nowhere,
Well, technically, none of the Hylians outside Kokiri Forest had ever seen Link before, so you could say he came "as if from nowhere" because very very few people had known him before he became a hero. Also, somebody (one of the Wise Men, I think) pointed out that "as if from nowhere" could very well be referring to Link's sudden reappearance after his seven-year sleep, which is where he came from to smite Ganondorf down.

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also doesnt make mention of the triforce (understandable because it is no known) but still it mentions the golden power (in alttp they refer to the triforce as the golden power).
All this does is establish some sort of connection between Wind Waker and Link to the Past, given the similar phrase.

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And comes the problem with my theory... it says the boy who traveled through time, hero of time...
Yeah, it's a problem. A problem that can't be ignored, unfortunately. There is only one Hero of Time- Link from Ocarina of Time. Link from A Link to the Past was not the Hero of Time.

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edit: oh i just finished fighting ganon in tww he looked like he died also if tww takes place before alttp how on hyrule did the sword got from ganons had to the lost woods? =) another proof if you could say =)
If you want to use this reasoning, how did the Master Sword get from the Temple of Time (in OoT) to the Lost Woods (LttP) to the basement of Hyrule Castle (WW)? Also, it looked like Ganon died in LttP, didn't he?

Plus, there is evidence that Ganondorf in Wind Waker is the one and same Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time. He himself makes direct references to the final scene on top of the tower (in Ocarina of Time)...

Feel free to read a post I made here, which is a more detailed version of my points here. Feel free to read all 427 posts in that thread, actually. It's quite the discussion...

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Old 10-22-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

thanks ricky ^^, well yes the thread is overwhelming, ill do further research now gunna change and try to find where MC,FS,FSA works inside the timeline, well maybe only MC cuz i myself think that FS,FSA is like a sidequest. so qith nothing more to say ill close it =)

edit/ umm... how do i close it o.O... its not on the thread tools xD
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:38 PM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

PM a moderator (Lozzie, for example) to close it for you.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:38 AM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

Well, there's also, of course, the obvious fact that, were ALttP before TWW, the Lost Woods would have moved from the east to the northwest... and back to the east. Which, of course, is impossible.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:58 AM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

Many things don't fit the Zelda story, and I made a list that is getting bigger and bigger. Like, changes in Hyrules geography, Link over and over apearing from nowhere, unknown to anyone. He saved Hyrule many times, and yet in every part of Zelda his unkown. Like Hylians have a short memory or something...
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:01 PM
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Re: ALTTP before TWW??

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Here we go again.
If you want to use this reasoning, how did the Master Sword get from the Temple of Time (in OoT) to the Lost Woods (LttP) to the basement of Hyrule Castle (WW)? Also, it looked like Ganon died in LttP, didn't he?
I believe the most recent TP trailer explains this.
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