My Timeline Opinion and Idea...

Now let’s start shall we? (Note: the Timeline is just a theory that could've worked without too many problems going against it...)

NOTE: I haven't gone into all the details that made me create this Timeline...

Ocarina of Time – No one should complain about it starting with this... only one thing to clear up! When Link is sent back in Time we follow Link's story not Zelda's.... therefore no split timeline... (NOTE: Link had the Triforce of courage on his arm at the end screen!) (Also I believe that it only needs to be mention once as Link never returns on his adult journeys from this game)

Majora's Mask – Link Leaves Hyrule in search of a long lost friend (Navi I Believe), and the Triforce of Courage shatters. Not anything else I need to clear up…

Twilight Princess (there’s a chance) – (Only works if the flood doesn’t start in this game nor the Triforce of courage is shown) only a few decades to a century or two after OOT-MM, and with no known information about the flood starting after this game this may fit in this spot!

LOZ - (Early games had less information about them so this may fit quiet well in here) The Triforce was in shards (amount of shards that the Triforce of courage was in doesn’t matter) Link collected them all to form the Triforce once again!

Twilight Princess – (If Triforce is shown still no flood) (See above) yet if this goes here Ganon (With the Triforce) was sealed in the Twilight that one day will become known as the Dark world!

A Link To The Past – (Based on GBA as it cleared up a few details the SNES had wrong it seems) Link once he had killed Ganon he wished for all of Ganon’s destruction to be undone (Triforce put back together in LOZ) once he placed the Master Sword in it’s pedestal the words did say something about “The master staying in it’s slumber” yet it also did say (I believe at least it said on the GBA version) “… or so they hoped”. Triforce may be held by Link and when he leaves it would’ve split!

Oracle of Ages/Seasons – Now I get to laugh at so many people it isn’t funny…
When using the codes to play the two games you are able to get the Master Sword Yet many say this is after ALTTP where the master sword was laid to rest (Therefore I proved all your theories wrong about this at least…)… Ganon was also resurrected by Twinrova so that’s why Ganon came back from his death… also the boat Link left on back to Hyrule looks a lot like he boat Link was on when he was seen in the next game…

Link’s Awakening – You may ask why I placed it here so I shall tell you! The story of the game was “Link (the same one from ALTTP) went on many travels that built his skills etc.” the game is based when he is finally going home… therefore OOA/OOS should go between these two!

Twilight Princess – (if flood is shown) No Triforce unless for some reason TP is here without a flood!

The Wind Waker – "It had Hyrules’s and Ganon’s destruction!" and that's good enough for me saying it's gone....

Phantom Hourglass – Confirmed by Nintendo! (Yay for them making this 0.0000001% easier for me…)

Now for the mysterious block of Vaati and the foursword!

The Minish cap would be the beginning as it created the foursword at least the name… then the rest of the games go somewhere…. (Never paid much attention to them or played them for that matter…)

Unknown list…

AOL I don’t know enough about it to place it somewhere

Timeline!

OOT–MM–TP(maybe)–LOZ–TP(maybe)–ALTTP–OOA/OOS–LA–TP(Maybe)–TWW–PH

MC-FS-FSA

AOL somwhere.... where does it go? after LOZ???

The facts i said about ALTTP and the GBA changes if i got some wrong please tell me...?

Originally Posted by Linker

LOZ - (Early games had less information about them so this may fit quiet well in here) The Triforce was in shards (amount of shards that the Triforce of courage was in doesn’t matter) Link collected them all to form the Triforce once again!

The Triforce of Wisdom was broken in this game I'm afraid, not the Courage piece. Also the backstory for LOZ is completely different from what you are suggesting. In it the full Triforce belonged to the Royal Family, so it must follow a game where it is shown to belong to the royal family- As in the Oracles.

A Link To The Past – (Based on GBA as it cleared up a few details the SNES had wrong it seems) Link once he had killed Ganon he wished for all of Ganon’s destruction to be undone (Triforce put back together in LOZ) once he placed the Master Sword in it’s pedestal the words did say something about “The master staying in it’s slumber” yet it also did say (I believe at least it said on the GBA version) “… or so they hoped”. Triforce may be held by Link and when he leaves it would’ve split!

The words 'Or so they hoped' never appeared in any shape or form. The remake had the line unchanged.

Oracle of Ages/Seasons – Now I get to laugh at so many people it isn’t funny…
When using the codes to play the two games you are able to get the Master Sword Yet many say this is after ALTTP where the master sword was laid to rest (Therefore I proved all your theories wrong about this at least…)… Ganon was also resurrected by Twinrova so that’s why Ganon came back from his death… also the boat Link left on back to Hyrule looks a lot like he boat Link was on when he was seen in the next game…

In this game the MS is not a necessity, so it's appearance is not a true contradiction. Heck, if you play OoS->OoA an old man transforms your sword into the MS, so it may not be the same one. But your placing is correct, the Oracles follows ALttP.

Link’s Awakening – You may ask why I placed it here so I shall tell you! The story of the game was “Link (the same one from ALTTP) went on many travels that built his skills etc.” the game is based when he is finally going home… therefore OOA/OOS should go between these two!

This should come right after ALttP, the boats are significantly different, the concept of ALttP, LA and Oracles Link being one and the same is under debate but LA should serve as the training period for Oracles.

Wind Waker – Other then many people hearing it was confirmed (I believe at least) from Nintendo it was the last game of all the current games in their order and timeline. It also had Hyrules’s and Ganon’s destruction!

Phantom Hourglass – Confirmed by Nintendo! (Yay for them making this 0.0000001% easier for me…)

WW being last wasn't confirmed by Ninty, PH following was however.

AOL I don’t know enough about it to place it somewhere.

This features the same LoZ Link so it must follow LoZ.

I think that just about covers it.

I just started this about 1/2 an hour ago and haven't done to badly...

I had a hard time with the early games LOZ and AOL as the story is only in the Manual which I haven't seen for myself... just what I've heard...

Still the Master Sword is the Master Sword... there's only one so the question is who is that old man! Oh, and why and how does he have the Master Sword!

And the "The Wind Waker" thing was just what I heard somewhere during when people were going mad about how you could have a pear on your head... and one thing leads to another and that makes lies I guess....

OoT-MM-TP-TWW-PH = confirmed
TMC-FS-FSA = confirmed
ALTTP-LA = confirmed
LoZ-AoL = confirmed

I'll ignore 1/2 of that and say if that was true theres still alot to go between then....

You can't just ignore it. Almost all of what I printed above has been confirmed by the developers and we have a ton of evidence to explain how all the different events translate from one game to another. If it wasn't so massive, I'd explain it all right now.

PS: The Master Sword in Oracles is an Easter Egg, just like the Palace of the Four Swords is an Easter Egg in the ALTTP remake. Capcom even cheekily made a reference to the fact that one of the original Oracles games was cancelled in TMC. There are three Oracles who want a house but only Din and Nayru get a house of their colour. Farore lost an Oracles game and she lost a house in TMC.

I didn't ignore all of it i just said some parts were just a bit already known...

I never said a thing about oracles in houses.... and lost games etc. etc.

Theres too much in Zelda yet to be known...

I find a few errors in every Timeline I see.... my own i see alot still....

ALTTP Ganon dies... The Wind Waker Ganon dies (from what we know)... OOA/OOS he comes back.... you can't die twice without coming back in the middle...

Just the above seems to be messed up in alot of Timelines... ALTTP has the biggest chance of a connection between OOA/OOS yet it would have to be after... and before LA... for the connection to work...

Therefore I'm saying many timelines have messed up the order between what is before and after Wind Waker...

Really that's all I really wanted to say in this thread...

Originally Posted by Linker

Theres too much in Zelda yet to be known...

Not really. There are a couple of ambiguities like the races...

I find a few errors in every Timeline I see.... my own i see alot still....

The timeline that we at ZU adopt has very little in the way of inconsistencies.

ALTTP Ganon dies... The Wind Waker Ganon dies (from what we know)... OOA/OOS he comes back....

Ganon in FSA is referred to as an "ancient demon reborn". Hence, he reincarnates.

Just the above seems to be messed up in alot of Timelines... ALTTP has the biggest chance of a connection between OOA/OOS yet it would have to be after... and before LA... for the connection to work...

Oracles is a spin-off game. Ganon is revived in Oracles but he is killed straight after. The boat ending has been confirmed to be unrelated to LA.

From what I saw he vanished not killed... big blinding light and then nothing...

And the boat is always good enough for something to go in a timeline and pull it out as soon as you see a mistake... take a risk... make a mistake... then fix it...

Originally Posted by Linker

From what I saw he vanished not killed... big blinding light and then nothing...

Nope, he was definitely killed. If he was still alive, he would only be a mindless raging Ganon, which we know not to be the case in subsequent games.

And the boat is always good enough for something to go in a timeline and pull it out as soon as you see a mistake... take a risk... make a mistake... then fix it...

LA's instruction manual refers to the "Legendary Hero" and the "Journey of Enlightment". Only Link in ALTTP has every specifically been referred to as the "Legendary Hero" and a direct sequel to ALTTP (released only in Japan) said that Link from ALTTP had embarked on a "journey of enlightenment". The evidence proves that LA directly follows ALTTP.

If you only release something in one area then why was it only released to that area... was there a mistake in the game it self or the story...

Nintendo never wanted a Timeline to begin with the fans had forced them to create one...

That's why it's the fans who try to work it out...

And theres more evidence that LA follows soon after ALTTP yet it really wouldn't matter...

Yet does the whole Timeline even matter.... OOT-MM-TP-TWW it does I guess but that's only them... yet we as fans want everything to go together.... maybe stubberness or just belief that all games should fit in somewhere...

Originally Posted by Linker

If you only release something in one area then why was it only released to that area... was there a mistake in the game it self or the story...

What are you referring to here?

Nintendo never wanted a Timeline to begin with the fans had forced them to create one...

That's why it's the fans who try to work it out...

Wrong, there is definite evidence for an intended timeline as far back as Zelda 3, ALTTP. Aonouma has confirmed that he is very interested in developing the timeline.

Yet does the whole Timeline even matter.... OOT-MM-TP-TWW it does I guess but that's only them... yet we as fans want everything to go together....

There is evidence that all the games except Oracles have a definite place in the timeline. They do matter.

1st that was a question, not a statment...

2nd as you just nearly pointed out that LOZ and AOL have nearly no story line if it wasn't for the manual... and the story from them is all about that game... nothing else... if you put the 2 games with (next to) no story together you don't have to answer 1/2 the questions you would need to... if they make a remake with a story added it just means they created a story from nothing....

Originally Posted by Linker

1st that was a question, not a statment...

I presume then that you are referring to Oracles. If a game is set in a location that has no impact on events in the main setting, that is often because the game is simply meant to be a spin-off title. Labyrnnia and Holodrum were invented as the setting for spin-off titles without messing up the main timeline.

2nd as you just nearly pointed out that LOZ and AOL have nearly no story line if it wasn't for the manual... and the story from them is all about that game... nothing else... if you put the 2 games with (next to) no story together you don't have to answer 1/2 the questions you would need to... if they make a remake with a story added it just means they created a story from nothing....

You forget the restrictions on the 8-bit NES system for properly developing a storyline. Anyway, you can't really call the Zelda series a timeline until LoZ's timeline prequel, ALTTP, was made and as a game to develop Hyrule into a fully-fledged world, ALTTP had a fully fledged storyline. The events in ALTTP's backstory (which btw was huge) were then fleshed out as the events from OoT-TP-TWW and then TMC-FS-FSA.

1st the question was to what you said....

Originally Posted by jhurvid

LA's instruction manual refers to the "Legendary Hero" and the "Journey of Enlightment". Only Link in ALTTP has every specifically been referred to as the "Legendary Hero" and a direct sequel to ALTTP (released only in Japan) said that Link from ALTTP had embarked on a "journey of enlightenment". The evidence proves that LA directly follows ALTTP.

2nd Nintendo still could release what would've been a better amount of infomation of LOZ and AOL... would've been better back then.... some remake with a story would still be paying for a game twice only to recieve the worse one first x2...

Oh and lets just add this for fun... Zora's and Rito both may be a race that can use scales to create there shapes and abilities (e.g. Silver scale, Valoo's scales!)

Nope you can't... the scale thing is the only thing that's worth looking at I miss that old Thread about zora's and ritos where did it go?

Originally Posted by Linker

1st the question was to what you said....

I read the question again and still don't understand. Can you please make your responses/questions clearer? Elaborate your meanings and use proper sentences.

2nd Nintendo still could release what would've been a better amount of infomation of LOZ and AOL... would've been better back then.... some remake with a story would still be paying for a game twice only to recieve the worse one first x2...

Since LoZ and AoL aren't yet being remade, why don't we leave talk about that possibility until Nintendo confirms that it will happen? Otherwise it is just pointless speculation.

Oh and lets just add this for fun... Zora's and Rito both may be a race that can use scales to create there shapes and abilities (e.g. Silver scale, Valoo's scales!)

Nope you can't... the scale thing is the only thing that's worth looking at I miss that old Thread about zora's and ritos where did it go?

Laruto confirms that Medli is of her bloodline. Zora imagery appear on the Rito costume designs. Therefore, the Ritos are transformations of the Zoras. The reason for this (in my opinion) is that the complete sealing of Old Hyrule would have been ruined if the Zoras had access to it, so the Gods transformed them into Ritos to disable their access to the seabed.