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Old 10-14-2006, 08:37 PM
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Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

I've searched high and low in the forums, seeing if I could find someone else who had posted this, but I have ended up empty-handed. Apologies now if this is old news, and close this thread without hesitation if it is.

There are many people who still hold the belief that the Four Swords part of Zelda belongs in its own side-quest of the main series. However, there is this solid connection that ties in Minish Cap with the Oracle games.

In the statue shop, sorry that I am at loss for its name, in Minish Cap has three figurines that are of particular inerest in their descriptions. They go with little explanation:

Nayru - "...She is descended from a line of oracles in the land of Labrynna."
Din - "...She is a famous dancer from the land of Holodrum."

Well, if that doesn't convince you that Nayru and Din (and probably Farore) are the same exact people from the Oracle games as Minish, I don't know what to say.

What order would these games go, timeline speaking? This is where the third fingurine comes in handy.

Syrup - "A wizard who lives in the Minish Woods, she sells magic items with odd powers. She's looking for an apprentice to whom she can teach her mystic spells."

Obviously, she hasn't found her apprentice yet, but by the time of the Orcales, she's finally adopted Maple as that apprentice. This would support the fact that Minish Cap comes before OOA/OOS choronologically.

Hope this is in fact something new and of interest.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:21 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Of course, I could say that Princess Zelda in FS has the power to sense evil, so she must be the same Zelda from OoT, but that would be horribly incorrect. The fact of the matter is that a bunch of characters are recycled throughout the series, and they're almost always given the same roles.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:36 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Yes, it seems to be an old habbit... Not to mention that most of those people are ancestors of those people in the Oracle games. It's something you have to take in to account when writing a theory that children are renamed after ancestors a lot for Zelda, and a part of laziness on the developers.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:39 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

*yawn* Easter Egg.

Don't believe me? Well, remember that you can only give 2 of them houses, and not all three of them? It's a hint toward the fact that Capcom was originally going to make three oracle games, but ended up only making two.
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Old 10-14-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

At least I know the real historians here recognise cannon easter eggs when there present in a LoZ. That is all this is. Period.
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Old 10-14-2006, 10:28 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

That's all I really wanted. Just thought it was important to float that out there. One additional way to reinforce your position is to produce evidence to prove all else wrong. Thanks!
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:54 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

You didn't search very well, Wind_Fish, since I made a thread about this back when I was unwise, and n00bish. It was proved in my thread that all those figurine writings and the characters on them were just easter eggs.
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Old 10-15-2006, 06:32 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

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Don't believe me? Well, remember that you can only give 2 of them houses, and not all three of them? It's a hint toward the fact that Capcom was originally going to make three oracle games, but ended up only making two.
I learned something cool today! Of course Din and Nayru both starred in Oracles games and the colours of the two houses in TMC were Red and Blue, to represent the colours of those Oracles. Just like Farore lost her own Oracles game, she lost a house of her colour as well.

Yeah, anyway we know now that Capcom loves to reference other Capcom games as easter eggs. Maple also appeared in the ALTTP remake as well as Oracles.

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Old 10-15-2006, 08:11 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Now, don't rule out the idea that these girls are Oracles--just the idea that they are the same characters from the Oracle subseries.
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:22 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

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You didn't search very well, Wind_Fish, since I made a thread about this back when I was unwise, and n00bish. It was proved in my thread that all those figurine writings and the characters on them were just easter eggs.
ZeldaGamer21. You do not have to be so critical. Everyone has to start somewhere.

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Old 10-15-2006, 09:30 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Actually, the figurine text is fine. There's just no reason to assume that these Oracles are the same Oracles from the Oracle games.
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Old 10-15-2006, 03:44 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Thank you, LOZ Historian, for the very, very painful reminder of being gannon-banned; I swore I would never fall into one of those categories a long time ago. Let's just say I've learned well from my mistake. If I ever have an assumption, no matter how obscure, I'll be able to back it up properly with definite facts in the future. I'll continue my reading of ZU for other findings to maybe prompt some real findings of my own.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:19 AM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

About that din farore and nayru. There also is many other well known characters in the game, like anju malon etc (in WW. ganon sais Link is the hero of time, reborn) So maybe it's like that the characters gets reborn, somehow
But about where in the timeline MC lays, I really don't have a clue. inn OOa/s Link got the whole triforce, in Mc, there is mentioened the power of light (not sure if it the same thing yet). And there it's Zelda who got it... ahhrr. I'm confused :p hehehe
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:19 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

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Capcom loves to reference other Capcom games as easter eggs.
They sure do. It seems that they never got over the lost Oracle game. They just keep on referencing but it does not always mean anything. Here's a perfect example.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LionHarted
There's just no reason to assume that these Oracles are the same Oracles from the Oracle games.
Agreed but there is a possibility that there exists a line of Oracles in the world of Zelda and the oracles seen in TMC could be the ancestors of those in the Oracle series.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nayru's figurine
She's looking for a house in Hyrule
to move into. She is descended from
a line of priestesses in the land of
Labrynna.
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:27 PM
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Re: Minish Cap to OOA/OOS Connection

Well, Uncle Meat, that's more or less what I was getting at. These Oracles come from "a line of Oracles", but they are not the same individuals we see in the Oracle titles for GBC. In fact, the existence of the "line of Oracles" suggests, as you said, that they are ancestors of the Oracle Oracles.

Of course, this may have significance outside of this game, as it is more evidence to point towards the idea that roles are always inherited through bloodline.
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