More Evidence to prove the FSA-ALttP Connection

For all of you who still think ALttP and FSA don't share a connection I have found more evidence to support the Wise Men's Timeline.

By using the similarties from the video games music I can show how identical these two cames really are.

Here the music you here when you fight Ganon:

ALttP:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...lbum=131&pos=0

FSA:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...bum=165&pos=33

notice how they both sound the same?!?! Here's more:

This is the infamous cave music:

ALttP:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...lbum=131&pos=3

FSA:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...bum=165&pos=11

Last but not least the Death Mountain music:

ALttP:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...lbum=131&pos=6

FSA:http://www.thehylia.com/media/displa...bum=165&pos=22

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So what do you think from that? The only other games where the music sounded similar occured in OoT and MM which are both connected to each other. Before you say anything let me say that while OoT and TMC have some similar music they are not identical. I'll try to find some examples for that arguement.

Another interesting this is this:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...BPpfgfCLp4IPcM
Sorry about that long link, I'll fix it later.

How about those similar sprites! Seriously why else would they have planned this when they could of did this to some other zelda game. There has too be some kind of a connection here.

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Feel free to discuss your opinions about this. Please let me here them.

I would like to thank LionHarted for his substantial help with making this thread. In the meantime I will fix this up to make it look better and easier to read.

Should music really be taken somehow as canon? Music is there to set the atmosphere of the place or scene. I don't think it should be used as proof of the connection between FSA and ALttP, but it's a nice coincidence.

Think about it. When are the only instances where tracks not only sound the same, but are literally the same exact track from a previous game? Only in cases of sequels and prequels.

To HeroOfTime5: I'll PM you a cleaner version of this so it's easier to read.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

Think about it. When are the only instances where tracks not only sound the same, but are literally the same exact track from a previous game? Only in cases of sequels and prequels.

To HeroOfTime5: I'll PM you a cleaner version of this so it's easier to read.

LA is a sequel to ALttP, yet the music is quite different.

When it comes down to music, it can or can't be used as canon—it’s matter of personal opinion. If someone says that it's just mere coincidence, lazy programming, or anything else; you can't really prove them wrong or right. Anything goes when it comes to music. It has such little meaning it doesn't really matter.

Either way, good find.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

Think about it. When are the only instances where tracks not only sound the same, but are literally the same exact track from a previous game? Only in cases of sequels and prequels.

To HeroOfTime5: I'll PM you a cleaner version of this so it's easier to read.

The FSA tracks are arranged differently, so they aren't literally the same track. The OoT credit music is as similar to the theme at the end of TMC as the music from ALttP is to these tracks from FSA, and I know you told me not to bring that up but... it's a valid point.

The word "support" should have been used in place of "prove" in the thread title. I do think the music was intentionally similar; Nintendo probably wanted to make FSA remniscent of ALttP.

Originally Posted by Hylian Dan

The FSA tracks are arranged differently, so they aren't literally the same track.

The caves track is identical.

The OoT credit music is as similar to the theme at the end of TMC as the music from ALttP is to these tracks from FSA, and I know you told me not to bring that up but... it's a valid point.

Tracks from the title and credits screens tend to repeat, though, regardless of connections (see the appearance of the Title Music from LoZ in just about every "side-story" game ever made).

Originally Posted by LionHarted

The caves track is identical.

No, the FSA one is a different track. The drum comes in louder and earlier in the ALttP arrangement.

Edit: Cool, I outsmarted the forum. This thread wasn't bumped when I posted.

I noticed music similarities too, but I didn't think that it would help support a connection between FSA and ALttP. I just thought it was there for fans who'd played ALttP. In all honesty, all though this is an interesting thread, HeroOfTime5, I don't think it helps that much to support our timeline. We really need more support to show that FSA is the prequel to ALttP, not just that they have a connection, because there are some people out there who think FSA is a sequel to ALttP.

I liked the music none the less.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

To HeroOfTime5: I'll PM you a cleaner version of this so it's easier to read.

Thanks, I was in a rush to write it. I'll fix it up in the meantime though. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Dark Link

LA is a sequel to ALttP, yet the music is quite different.

Take a look at OoT>>>MM for instance. A larger similarty for those 2.

Originally Posted by ZeldaGamer21

I noticed music similarities too, but I didn't think that it would help support a connection between FSA and ALttP. I just thought it was there for fans who'd played ALttP. In all honesty, all though this is an interesting thread, HeroOfTime5, I don't think it helps that much to support our timeline. We really need more support to show that FSA is the prequel to ALttP, not just that they have a connection, because there are some people out there who think FSA is a sequel to ALttP.

What are your thoughts for that website where they planned on having similar sprites to ALttP?

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

What are your thoughts for that website where they planned on having similar sprites to ALttP?

Obviously that establishes a strong connection between FSA and ALttP, but it doesn't help support FSA being the prequel to ALttP. We really need to find more evidence supporting the pre-ALttP placement of FSA.

Originally Posted by Dark Link

LA is a sequel to ALttP, yet the music is quite different.

I never said that all sequels have ripped tracks from their predecessors--just that all cases of music being directly ripped occur in sequels/prequels.

FSA is a multiplayer Zelda game with elements from 2d Zelda games, including Minish Cap and ALttP. The music is to reinforce the fact that it is retro Zelda in multiplayer.

Originally Posted by darthcucco

FSA is a multiplayer Zelda game with elements from 2d Zelda games, including Minish Cap and ALttP. The music is to reinforce the fact that it is retro Zelda in multiplayer.

Considering that FSA and TMC were released very close to each other, I highly doubt that FSA had stuff from TMC in it. Especially since TMC was released AFTER FSA.

Originally Posted by darthcucco

FSA is a multiplayer Zelda game with elements from 2d Zelda games, including Minish Cap and ALttP. The music is to reinforce the fact that it is retro Zelda in multiplayer.

FSA came out before TMC. The question is--why make a new console game, on a console that can support 3D graphics, if it's going to be 2D? Why not make it portable?

If the music could be used to check a hidden connection between the games then The Wind Waker would be the mother of all games. Which of course, it isn't.

The Wind Waker sound track features music from all previous Zelda games, then updated a little. Cleaner sound, variation of instruments but still. The are Wind Waker-only tracks but the majority are restyled versions of classic Zelda music.

Originally Posted by ZeldaGamer21

Considering that FSA and TMC were released very close to each other, I highly doubt that FSA had stuff from TMC in it. Especially since TMC was released AFTER FSA.

Ha! No it wasn't. Not in Europe at least. We got TMC first. And I only say this about TMC because of the FS storyline, with Vaati and such.

Lion