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Old 09-22-2006, 03:40 AM
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AoL, and the name of Zelda

Now, I do understand the theory that the reason for the name Zelda in all the games previous to this one might be because, The Legend of Zelda(the series not the game), might be a recording of the notable events during the reign of the different princesses or queens named Zelda, and we all know that royal families re-use names alot. However, it is decreed in AoL that all future heir princesses in the land of Hyrule be named Zelda therefore it could be the first because in all the later games they are Zelda. That idea could be wrong though, for the reason I stated before.

I just thought I should mention this because it seemed like alot of people haven't taken it into consideration.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:30 AM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

Actually, There have been many of these 'inconsistencies' throughout the Series. It has now been theorized by LOZ Historian and Myself that the Sages, Ganon, Link, and Zelda have been reincarnated thrroughout the Series. Considering that there are more than one of each and they all appear to co-incide with one another throughout, it is much easier and thus less a pain in the neck.

As for that decree About all females in the royal family being named Zelda, that decree took place centuries before LoZ. So it is most likely that LoZ Zelda is a 'grand' niece of AoL Zelda.
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:27 AM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

The AoL backstory of Zelda being put into an eternal sleep by a Wizard hired by the Prince happened a long time before AoL itself. These events happened shortly after the King of Hyrule who used the ENTIRE Triforce to govern Hyrule died and told the secrets of the Triforce to Zelda alone.

In the Oracle games opening sequences, we see Link ride to Hyrule Castle on a horse, and enter a chamber containing the entire Triforce. This means the Triforce was in the possession of the Royal Family at the time of the Oracles, and likely around this time the AoL backstory of Zelda being put into an eternal sleep occured.

As to why every Princess of Hyrule before these events happened is unknown, but you are most likely right, Historian, about Royal Family's reusing the same name over and over, which would explain why all the princesses are named Zelda before the Zelda in AoL was put into her eternal sleep.
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

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In the Oracle games opening sequences, we see Link ride to Hyrule Castle on a horse, and enter a chamber containing the entire Triforce. This means the Triforce was in the possession of the Royal Family at the time of the Oracles, and likely around this time the AoL backstory of Zelda being put into an eternal sleep occured.
Who builds a castle in the middle of a forest? That castle is obviously ancient and abandoned. I personally believe it's North Castle. The entire Triforce is in the possession of the Royal Family at the end of AoL, too.

Sure, it's the same with ALttP. However, in that game the Dark World becomes the Golden Land again, which makes it impossible for the Oracles to be close sequels to ALttP. Also, if the 'world of evil' mentioned in the Japanese versions of LoZ and AoL is the Dark World it makes it even easier to put them after LoZ and AoL.

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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

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That castle is obviously ancient and abandoned.
Is it, now? So the Triforce is being left unguarded? Somehow I doubt that.
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I personally believe it's North Castle.
I'll agree with that.
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The entire Triforce is in the possession of the Royal Family at the end of AoL, too.
Link =/= Royal Family.
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However, in that game the Dark World becomes the Golden Land again, which makes it impossible for the Oracles to be close sequels to ALttP.
What?
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Also, if the 'world of evil' mentioned in the Japanese versions of LoZ and AoL is the Dark World it makes it even easier to put them after LoZ and AoL.
The Hylian shield wielded by ALttP/LA Link is present in OoS/OoA. So they're not connected... why?
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Old 09-23-2006, 02:59 PM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

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Who builds a castle in the middle of a forest? That castle is obviously ancient and abandoned. I personally believe it's North Castle. The entire Triforce is in the possession of the Royal Family at the end of AoL, too.
Well it is not abandoned. I could agree with you that it is North Castle. Since the Triforce is put most definatly in the hands of the Royal Family when Link leaves Hyrule after ALttP, I would think the Triforce would be hidden and/or relocated in another area of Hyrule to be safe.

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Sure, it's the same with ALttP. However, in that game the Dark World becomes the Golden Land again, which makes it impossible for the Oracles to be close sequels to ALttP. Also, if the 'world of evil' mentioned in the Japanese versions of LoZ and AoL is the Dark World it makes it even easier to put them after LoZ and AoL.
You misinterpret the Historical refernce that the Oracles have to say about the Dark Realm. Twinrova states that there mission is to revive Ganon's spirit back from the Dark Realm. Yet the only time Ganon was totaly destroyed in the Dark World/Realm was in ALttP. Not at the end of the LoZ. (And I strongly counter the idea that you may believe that the underworld is the Dark World.) IIn the LoZ prologue it even states that Ganon came from an "evil world". That world was the Dark World. In the Oracles that mentioning of the world is a common statement used randomly as it was used in FSA. And during that time, the phrase "dark World" was used to incorprate the meaning of a parallel wold that shadows/reflects Hyrule. As in the age ALttP takes place, it is used in context that it is a world ful of evil and shadow because Ganon has taken it over.

As for the shields used amoungst Link in certain Loz's I would find it highly conclusive that the shield used in that paricular time represents a "time" period (age) when that certain shield crest was used by Hylian Knights. I would conclude that any game that features the Link using a certain shield design all come close together to from a timeline "arc". Shield do represent time periods in Hyrule's history and that cannot be dissmissed.
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Old 09-24-2006, 12:30 PM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

Point in question: Do we know if ALL the Hyrule Princesses before the AoL Legend were called Zelda? The legend explains why all princesses after the legend were called Zelda; it does not say that all the princess before the legend were also called Zelda.
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

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Point in question: Do we know if ALL the Hyrule Princesses before the AoL Legend were called Zelda? The legend explains why all princesses after the legend were called Zelda; it does not say that all the princess before the legend were also called Zelda.
You make a good point, jhurvid. Maybe it was just the princesses that were in each game had the name Zelda, whilst others didn't. I'm still more supportive of the all princesses are named Zelda even before the AoL backstory point of view, although you have raised a good point.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:38 PM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

I'm sure that AoL was originally meant to explain why all the princesses were called Zelda, but this has obviously been overlooked by the developers since then. I'm just showing that the point is not an inconsistency within the timeline, as many people seem to think.

AoL's Princess Zelda was unlikely to be the very first Hyrule princess with that name and we know that she was not the last.
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

Then again, the Princesses we see in the games are probably not the only princesses to have ever existed in Zelda mythos. It's possible that all the Princesses of Destiny would be (destined to be) named Zelda, and from this one on they were all named Zelda in mourning of the curse on the Sleeping Princess.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:11 AM
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Then again, the Princesses we see in the games are probably not the only princesses to have ever existed in Zelda mythos. It's possible that all the Princesses of Destiny would be (destined to be) named Zelda, and from this one on they were all named Zelda in mourning of the curse on the Sleeping Princess.
That's exactly what I'm thinking, LionHarted.
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

That was in response to Link-herooftime.
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:37 AM
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

This would make AOL's back story probably the first in the overall timeline, if not, then somwhere close after OOT.

The backstory is long before the actual events of AOL, so it definately is possible.
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This would make AOL's back story probably the first in the overall timeline, if not, then somwhere close after OOT.
So the Royal Family ruled Hyrule using the Triforce while the Triforce was in the Sacred Realm?
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Re: AoL, and the name of Zelda

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So the Royal Family ruled Hyrule using the Triforce while the Triforce was in the Sacred Realm?
Did they infact have the Triforce during then, when they would claim that every newborn female heir to the thrown to be named Zelda?

Sorry if my facts aren't straight, I'm trying to come up with a timeline theory, but most of my thoughts are focused around mainly the OOT & ALTTP eras. Plus the LOZ/AOL games are horribly outdated, and thus it makes it difficult to place them properly into the timeline.
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Did they infact have the Triforce during then?
Yessir, they did.
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It is said that a great ruler maintained the peace in Hyrule using the Triforce.
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