My theory on why Din aids Ganondorf

Look, I don't care about your specifics about Seal Wars, Imprisoning Wars, Demon Wars, or any of that. To me, Ganon gets sealed two or three times, end of story.

Originally Posted by Link-herooftime

Look, I don't care about your specifics about Seal Wars, Imprisoning Wars, Demon Wars, or any of that. To me, Ganon gets sealed two or three times, end of story.

Certain sealings DO correspond to certain breakings of said seals, though.

--The seal that involves the Hero of Time is broken before TWW, and Ganon is sealed again within the flooding Hyrule, and escapes that seal in time for TWW.
--The seal that involves the Hero of Light(FSA)/ALttP War (after FSA) is broken during ALttP, and Ganon is killed.

The seal in ALttP does NOT involve the Hero of Time; the one in TWW does. Given that fact alone, ALttP cannot come between the two.

You should have said that over in the 'why ALttP comes before TWW' thread.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

Certain sealings DO correspond to certain breakings of said seals, though.

--The seal that involves the Hero of Time is broken before TWW, and Ganon is sealed again within the flooding Hyrule, and escapes that seal in time for TWW.
--The seal that involves the Hero of Light(FSA)/ALttP War (after FSA) is broken during ALttP, and Ganon is killed.

The seal in ALttP does NOT involve the Hero of Time; the one in TWW does. Given that fact alone, ALttP cannot come between the two.

Once the sealing is made, the demon can be re-sealed many times. But the initial sealing will always be the most famous.

Originally Posted by darthcucco

Once the sealing is made, the demon can be re-sealed many times. But the initial sealing will always be the most famous.

The demon cannot be reincarnated if the initial demon is still alive.

Did I say it was still alive?

Originally Posted by darthcucco

Did I say it was still alive?

You didn't say much of anything.

True. But, the seal broken in ALttP is that of OoT; remember that Ganon is in the Sacred Realm, not the Four Sword.

Originally Posted by darthcucco

True. But, the seal broken in ALttP is that of OoT; remember that Ganon is in the Sacred Realm, not the Four Sword.

The Ganon mentioned in TWW is that of OoT, which cannot be so if the seal broken in ALttP is the seal from OoT, since Ganon is killed in ALttP.

Ganon is never said to have been sealed anywhere in ALttP.

That is easily remedied. The Four Sword's pedestal became a portal, kinda like the Master Sword's Pedestal in OoT.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

The Ganon mentioned in TWW is that of OoT, which cannot be so if the seal broken in ALttP is the seal from OoT, since Ganon is killed in ALttP.

Ganon is never said to have been sealed anywhere in ALttP.

He was sealed in the Seal war, and ressurected by Agahnim.

Not true. The gateway between Hyrule and the Dark World was opened when Agahnim sent Zelda into the Dark World. Ganon was alive, he just couldn't get through the barrier.

Originally Posted by darthcucco

He was sealed in the Seal war, and ressurected by Agahnim.

The only thing Agahnim did was open the portals to the Dark World and/or Sacred Realm and send the Maidens there.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

The only thing Agahnim did was open the portals to the Dark World and/or Sacred Realm and send the Maidens there.

Actually, the game does mention an "incomplete" gateway near the castle, which was the one that Ganon was trying to properly open and escape through. This gateway was confirmed to have been made by Agahnim.

Originally Posted by jhurvid

Actually, the game does mention an "incomplete" gateway near the castle, which was the one that Ganon was trying to properly open and escape through. This gateway was confirmed to have been made by Agahnim.

Ah, well then. But it was made by Agahnim, using the Maidens' power. That's why I didn't include it--it was coupled with the whole "send the Maidens to the Dark World" thing.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

Ah, well then. But it was made by Agahnim, using the Maidens' power. That's why I didn't include it--it was coupled with the whole "send the Maidens to the Dark World" thing.

I guess it's up to interpretation. I checked up on zeldalegends and ALTTP said that Agahnim used the Maidens' power to break the Sages' seal and then he intends to create a larger passage near the castle. I know you have this "furthermore" point so that's why I'll leave it to interpretation. I don't automatically think that he created the portal using the Maidens' power, more likely he made it with his own power.

Originally Posted by jhurvid

I guess it's up to interpretation. I checked up on zeldalegends and ALTTP said that Agahnim used the Maidens' power to break the Sages' seal and then he intends to create a larger passage near the castle.

The larger passage is already there... ~_~

Originally Posted by LionHarted

The larger passage is already there... ~_~

But it is also incomplete. (PS: I was more or less quoting the text from a Maiden in my last post so that was written there as well).

Originally Posted by jhurvid

But it is also incomplete. (PS: I was more or less quoting the text from a Maiden in my last post so that was written there as well).

Hmm. It may just be that it's one-way for the time being. However, if the point is to open a two-way passage, why couldn't Ganon have done this using the Triforce during the Seal War? This is why I believe that his taking of the Triforce is fairly recent. If a sorcerer puppet can do what a Triforce-wielding demon cannot, there's an issue...

You have to remember that Agahnim was Ganon's Avatar. A physical form he took during ALttP.