The Temple of Time

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Since Link left the master sword in the Sealed Grounds in SS, could it be that the place would become the Temple of Time?
The place looks rather similiar in the present version of TP.
And even in ALTTP the master sword is hidden in the middle of the woods, just like the Sealed Temple.

Yes they are the same place. If you look at the form of the temples they all have a rectangular like entrance and a round room in the back. It is also the place where the gate of time was located. Giving it the name of temple of time,

Yeah, HH also confirms this. The only real issue about it is the geography in relation to other games.

I'm not really trying to start a fight or rent-a-mod or anything, but I think people should check all sources of information available and search in the forums before starting a new theory.
By doing so, you would've found all information you needed, confirming your "theory" is long time proven fact.
I think this behaviour would increase the quality of ZU's theorizing section, for too long (and at reason) snubbed by ZI's "Super Snooty Elite Zelda Theorizing Team".

Originally Posted by Lord Mortipher

I'm not really trying to start a fight or rent-a-mod or anything, but I think people should check all sources of information available and search in the forums before starting a new theory.

I usually do this; unfortunately, it often leads to me going on a super complex hunt for more evidence which leads me to knowing small, slightly insignificant facts. For instance, did you know that Spirit Isle from Phantom Hourglass, when viewed on the region map, greatly resembles the design found on the Sage's Shadow Medallion? Or that Fierce Diety's Japanese name doesn't actually attribute him to being an Oni, but merely as fierce as an Oni?

Originally Posted by Lord Mortipher

By doing so, you would've found all information you needed, confirming your "theory" is long time proven fact.

Mhm. I like where yer going with this.

Originally Posted by Lord Mortipher

I think this behaviour would increase the quality of ZU's theorizing section, for too long (and at reason) snubbed by ZI's "Super Snooty Elite Zelda Theorizing Team".

A team which I unfortunately am not a part of, at least not knowingly. But please remove the "snooty" part. Arrogance and Ignorance are pretty much the only qualities considered negative in the Theorizing board.

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Skyward Sword already has a temple of time in the desert, don't they?

How come in Ocarina of Time the Temple of Time is not in the woods unlike Twilight Princess and A Link To The Past?

Uh, because they built a town around it? People aren't very good at living in the woods without cutting them down.

Originally Posted by The Doctor

Yeah, HH also confirms this. The only real issue about it is the geography in relation to other games.

How is that an issue? It makes perfect sense to me. The Temple of Hylia was in a forest area, the sacred grove was in a forest after the old capital was abandoned, and the Master Sword of ALttP sat in a forest.

Originally Posted by Darth Yoshi

Uh, because they built a town around it? People aren't very good at living in the woods without cutting them down.

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Owkay so according to you, in skyward sword the temple of time is in Lanayru province, then in faron woods after the land came down, then in ocarina of time by cutting down woods and changing it's location to near the castle, to end up in twilight princess in faron woods again?

The ordef of the ToT is:
Lanayru desert. The gte of tume was destroyed and the temple falled into decay

Link defeats Demise and lefts the MS in the pedestal in the Temple of Hylia

Centuries later Rauru build a new temple over the remains of the Temple of Hylia. That temple came to be known as the Temple of Time. Because of the Time gate. Then the castle and town where build around it to protect it. So the forest where cutdown

In every timeline Ganondorf attacks the castle and the town. If you follow HH's timeline then the it split into 3 diferent timelines. If you do not follow it like me. Then i don't know how you split it. But like evryone understands HH's then I will make the chronoligal line using that.

In the CT before of his execution he attacked the castle. Then by damage or something they moved to the north and the castle,town and ToT where left to decay. Then the forest growed once again.

In the AT the castle probably was build over the town and Tot.

In the DT the capital moved to the east and the forest was given thd chance to regrow. Sp the ToT was lost in the forest and become what we see in ALttP.

Originally Posted by tlozbj

Then the castle and town where build around it to protect it. So the forest where cutdown.

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Hoo, hold on, I get the rest of your comment, but this? This isn't logical, the sacred grounds is all the way to the south and the volcano is completely up north. I don't see how that complete volcano moved from that point to the right of the castle like in ocarina of time without leaving traces, or how the forest was cut down to be moved completely off the skyward sword map. I mean, if you put the ocarina of time map over it, every area width suits perfectly.
I don't like the HH theories as well, I would've been convinced if they said they built 2 temples of time because there were actually 2 gates of time, trying to restore the other one by making the sword a new 'gate of time'... but really? so much change over those years?
That really surprises me, because although thousands of years passed among the humans, their technology doesn't improve and as I can see there were robots and electricity equipments so where did that wisdom go?

Originally Posted by cuccolover

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Hoo, hold on, I get the rest of your comment, but this? This isn't logical, the sacred grounds is all the way to the south and the volcano is completely up north. I don't see how that complete volcano moved from that point to the right of the castle like in ocarina of time without leaving traces, or how the forest was cut down to be moved completely off the skyward sword map. I mean, if you put the ocarina of time map over it, every area width suits perfectly.

Actually if look well Lake Floria is in the same place as Zora domain. So like Lake floria is Zora domain then death mountain most be above it. If you go to a certain place in Faron woods you can see a mountain like structure above Lake Floria. Around the area where Death mountain should be. It doesn't fit because we never see what is between the regions. So ter can be:rivers,lakes,volcanos,deserts,etc. The only part that got cutdows was that which was needed to build the capital. OoT happen from in a area below the sealed grounds.

Originally Posted by cuccolover

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Owkay so according to you, in skyward sword the temple of time is in Lanayru province, then in faron woods after the land came down, then in ocarina of time by cutting down woods and changing it's location to near the castle, to end up in twilight princess in faron woods again?

No, that's not it at all. The desert temple has nothing to do with it, except it happens to share a name. The Master Sword always has been at the site of the former Temple of Hylia, where Rauru built a new temple which he called the Temple of Time. This has always been in Faron Woods, except people cut it down when they built a town and a castle by the temple. After they moved away for whatever reasons, the forest grew back.

Originally Posted by cuccolover

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Seeing as there are actual quote tags, what you're doing isn't a whole lot anyway.

The main question I have is about the ToT location. Does it ever move? Does the MS and its pedestal ever move anywhere whatsoever? Because the actual placements of the ToT make very little sense. In SS, it is far to the South East in the middle of the forest. Then in OoT, it is in Castle Town. But it is also further north closer to death mountain and gerudo desert, which is totally different and not even close to SS's placement. Then on the CT, in TP, its placement makes total sense again because it is in the more southern forest area. On the DT, it's even weirder. It looks closer to its OoT placement, just a little further west and now in a forest. These placements are just so weird and confusing. I understand that the kingdom could move around, but not this much. Unless we assume that there are multiple thousands of years between games. Honestly, I think OoT tends to be the weirdest one because it is nowhere near a forest. ALttP would be next because it's in a forest where we don't see a forest before. XP

The Historia says no. It states that the Castle Town temple that Rauru built was believed to have been the former site of the Sealed Temple. It further states that between OoT and TP, the Master Sword hasn't moved. And of course, the LttP map is similar enough to a rotated OoT map that it's reasonable to consider the Master Sword to have remained stationary there as well. So assuming that Rauru wasn't mistaken about the location of the Sealed Temple, the Master Sword has stayed in one place since SS.

Still really weird. SS and TP locations are relatively close, but not exact (at least they're both southern and forests and the same province. ALttP is in a forest, but it's not even halfway similar of a location to TP and SS. I understand that the kingdom can move, but I use Death Mountain as a landmark, and its position relative to the MS goes all over the place. XP

Originally Posted by The Doctor

The main question I have is about the ToT location. Does it ever move? Does the MS and its pedestal ever move anywhere whatsoever? Because the actual placements of the ToT make very little sense. In SS, it is far to the South East in the middle of the forest. Then in OoT, it is in Castle Town. But it is also further north closer to death mountain and gerudo desert, which is totally different and not even close to SS's placement. Then on the CT, in TP, its placement makes total sense again because it is in the more southern forest area. On the DT, it's even weirder. It looks closer to its OoT placement, just a little further west and now in a forest. These placements are just so weird and confusing. I understand that the kingdom could move around, but not this much. Unless we assume that there are multiple thousands of years between games. Honestly, I think OoT tends to be the weirdest one because it is nowhere near a forest. ALttP would be next because it's in a forest where we don't see a forest before. XP

What you see on the map in a given game is not all there is. Clearly, Hyrule sits in the middle of a vast continent.

Originally Posted by The Baton of the Wind

What you see on the map in a given game is not all there is. Clearly, Hyrule sits in the middle of a vast continent.

I know that already. My main point is that I use Death Mountain. Death Mountain serves as my main landmark that I use to compare the locations of other things, like the ToT. In relation to Death Mountain, the ToT moves all over the place. Three different places.

1. SS/TP - ToT is in a forest a good deal South of Death Mountain.
2. OoT - In Castle Town South East of Death Mountain (but much closer and further north than in SS/TP)
3. ALttP - In a forest directly West of Death Mountain.

These locations are all over the place and are contradictory to eachother. And the ToT isn't the only location that is like this. Even Kakariko Village in ALttP is far far away from Death Mountain while in OoT/TP it's right next to it.

But Death Mountain is an entire range, of which any one peak can also be called Death Mountain. So it's a terribly imprecise landmark.

Originally Posted by The Doctor

2. OoT - In Castle Town South East of Death Mountain (but much closer and further north than in SS/TP)

Methinks you mean "west" here.

Originally Posted by The Doctor

I know that already. My main point is that I use Death Mountain. Death Mountain serves as my main landmark that I use to compare the locations of other things, like the ToT. In relation to Death Mountain, the ToT moves all over the place. Three different places.

1. SS/TP - ToT is in a forest a good deal South of Death Mountain.
2. OoT - In Castle Town South East of Death Mountain (but much closer and further north than in SS/TP)
3. ALttP - In a forest directly West of Death Mountain.

These locations are all over the place and are contradictory to eachother. And the ToT isn't the only location that is like this. Even Kakariko Village in ALttP is far far away from Death Mountain while in OoT/TP it's right next to it.

Exactly, and since when can north, east, south and west move? How is it even possible to rotate such a thing? You use compasses so then the poles must have changed in some way, except in skyward sword ofcourse.