How many ganondorfs

Think about it. a man is born every 100 years in the gerudo race and that man becomes King...think about all the centuries that pass...how many ganondorf ish people are there out there then.

Another thing to think about is: How long do gerudos usually live? Between OoT and tWW, hundreds of years have passed, and yet Ganondorf is still alive (without a grey hair on his head or a feeble bone in his body). So within those hundreds of years, that means that more Gerudo men have been born. I wasn't expecting much from PH, but in ST, I was honestly hoping to see at least one Gerudo male (it would have been more interesting if he was not named Ganondorf and that he wasn't evil).

As for how many Ganondorfs that have been introduced (and according to the official timeline), I would have to say that there are four:
1. OoT Ganondorf that was sealed away and then years later was killed by tWW Link
2. OoT Ganondorf that was sentenced to the Twilight Realm and then TP Link killed him.
3. The Part of the timeline where the Link is defeated and Ganondorf still reins over Hyrule. There could very well be a game that takes place before ALttP where Ganondorf is still king.
4. Ganondorf is mentioned in FSA being a man of the gerudo tribe trying to obtain the Trident of Power. We never see Ganondorf in the game, but he is mentioned. So between the time of OoT Ganondorf's death in TP and FSA, at least 100 years has passed.

Considering essentially the first three Ganondorfs are the same person (two died and one still reins over Hyrule), so you can see it as two Ganondorfs: OoT Ganondorf and FSA Ganondorf.

-BGS

OoT and FSA Ganondorf are definitely two different people. LoZ Ganon may be a different one again. So either two or three Ganons over the course of the series.

Supposedly, every person we've seen named Ganondorf except for FSA Ganondorf has been the same person. However, in all the ways that matter post-LttP Ganon has lost what once made him Ganondorf, so depending on stringent you're being, there have been either two or three different Ganondorfs.

Originally Posted by riomhaire

OoT and FSA Ganondorf are definitely two different people. LoZ Ganon may be a different one again. So either two or three Ganons over the course of the series.

"Ganon" isn't the same as "Ganondorf" so I don't think your LoZ counts.

Now if we're talking about Ganons, one Ganon died in the adult timeline (that's why Ganondorf only had a "Puppet Ganon" in tWW, which isn't a true incarnation of Ganon). In the Child Timeline Ganondorf was killed in TP, but Ganon lived on to the second Ganondorf in FSA. It's been a while since I've played FSA, but I think the maidens just sealed him away. So this Ganon is still alive.
And then we have the Hero Defeated storyline. Ganon is very strong in that timeline.

So in short, there are two Ganons alive.

One thing I don't like about the "Hero Defeated" timeline is the fact that it's only focused on OoT. I mean, if Link dies in ANY game, wouldn't that in of itself create a separate timeline? So instead of 3 we would have many?

Another thought about the Hero Defeated timeline is that if you die in AoL, a screen pops up saying "Game Over. Return of Ganon". So there we have yet another potential split within the triple-split timeline.

So the next time we have a Zelda game that features Ganon, after AoL (for another Hero Defeated timeline split), or after FSA. Even if we have Zelda games where those two Ganons are killed, I don't think that would be the end of the Zelda series. I mean, there are still a bunch of other evil spirits out there like Dethl, Vaati, Bellum, Malladus, etc.. and I'm sure there are still more that was in Demise's army.

-BGS

I know its a different ganondorf in FSA...but I mean havent centuries passed between OoT and LoZ and even OoT and WW

In FSA there were alot of men with Gerudo colored skin in the Gerudo towns. I think its just a legend.

Originally Posted by kymeric

In FSA there were alot of men with Gerudo colored skin in the Gerudo towns. I think its just a legend.

Those weren't Gerudos, those were the Zunas. Completely different race.

Zuna - Zelda Wiki

That says theyre the descendants of the tribe that built the pyramid, wasnt that the Gerudo? They have a similar Arabic theme to the Gerudo...

Originally Posted by kymeric

That says theyre the descendants of the tribe that built the pyramid, wasnt that the Gerudo? They have a similar Arabic theme to the Gerudo...

No, there's nothing suggesting that. Besides they both exist at the same time, if the Zuna were "descendants" then the Gerudo would have to be non-existent. Besides just because they both live in the desert and have a similar theme of appearance is nothing more than coincidence.

If we evolved from Gerudo, why are there still Gerudo? Clearly evolution is a scam!

Originally Posted by keyaki

No, there's nothing suggesting that. Besides they both exist at the same time, if the Zuna were "descendants" then the Gerudo would have to be non-existent. Besides just because they both live in the desert and have a similar theme of appearance is nothing more than coincidence.

Well, that's not entirely accurate. The Zuna could still be of ancient Gerudo descent, just as the modern Gerudo are obviously of ancient Gerudo descent. It'd just be that at some point the population of ancient Gerudo that eventually became the Zuna were subjected to different pressures than the main population.

Or, to put it another way, just because there are people in Africa and people in Europe and they look different doesn't mean that the people in Europe can't trace their ancestry back to Africa.

Originally Posted by Darth Yoshi

Well, that's not entirely accurate. The Zuna could still be of ancient Gerudo descent, just as the modern Gerudo are obviously of ancient Gerudo descent. It'd just be that at some point the population of ancient Gerudo that eventually became the Zuna were subjected to different pressures than the main population.

Or, to put it another way, just because there are people in Africa and people in Europe and they look different doesn't mean that the people in Europe can't trace their ancestry back to Africa.

Ill give you that, but there's nothing suggesting the relationship between the Gerudo in FSA and the Pyramid or negating the fact that only one man is born in the Gerudo race every 100 years.

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

Another thing to think about is: How long do gerudos usually live? Between OoT and tWW, hundreds of years have passed, and yet Ganondorf is still alive (without a grey hair on his head or a feeble bone in his body). So within those hundreds of years, that means that more Gerudo men have been born. I wasn't expecting much from PH, but in ST, I was honestly hoping to see at least one Gerudo male (it would have been more interesting if he was not named Ganondorf and that he wasn't evil).

As for how many Ganondorfs that have been introduced (and according to the official timeline), I would have to say that there are four:
1. OoT Ganondorf that was sealed away and then years later was killed by tWW Link
2. OoT Ganondorf that was sentenced to the Twilight Realm and then TP Link killed him.
3. The Part of the timeline where the Link is defeated and Ganondorf still reins over Hyrule. There could very well be a game that takes place before ALttP where Ganondorf is still king.
4. Ganondorf is mentioned in FSA being a man of the gerudo tribe trying to obtain the Trident of Power. We never see Ganondorf in the game, but he is mentioned. So between the time of OoT Ganondorf's death in TP and FSA, at least 100 years has passed.

Considering essentially the first three Ganondorfs are the same person (two died and one still reins over Hyrule), so you can see it as two Ganondorfs: OoT Ganondorf and FSA Ganondorf.

-BGS

What's the name of the blacksmith on the hidden island in the north-western sea? He appears in striking resemblance to Ganondorf, let alone a Gerudo.

Originally Posted by Hylian_Sam

What's the name of the blacksmith on the hidden island in the north-western sea? He appears in striking resemblance to Ganondorf, let alone a Gerudo.

Zauz is a Cobble, who have had at least five males (the four knights and their king) all alive simultaneously. He is not a Gerudo, nor is he Ganondorf.

My personal theory is that Gerudo men are exceptionally long lived, and spend most of their time mating with full-blooded female Gerudos, creating enough full-blooded children for the next few generations. When he has a son he abdicates in favour of that son, who assumes his responsibilities. Meanwhile, female Gerudos are creating half-Gerudos with members of other races (Hylians, Humans, Anouki etc) to keep the population up.

One, but because of the different timelines, three. Three are the one from OoT depending on the timeline. ALttP, TP, and WW are all the same Ganondorf, technically. The same Ganondorf of a timeline is reincarted constantly.

Originally Posted by LinkSwing

One, but because of the different timelines, three. Three are the one from OoT depending on the timeline. ALttP, TP, and WW are all the same Ganondorf, technically. The same Ganondorf of a timeline is reincarted constantly.

You forgot the Ganon in FSA who's a completely new one.

Originally Posted by keyaki

You forgot the Ganon in FSA who's a completely new one.

However he is the CT/OoT/TP Ganondorf reborn and reincarnated.
The difference is only the body and the amnesia (considering Hylia's reincarnation), the soul and his hatred (Demise's Hatred) is still the same.

Originally Posted by Thanatos-Zero

However he is the CT/OoT/TP Ganondorf reborn and reincarnated.
The difference is only the body and the amnesia (considering Hylia's reincarnation), the soul and his hatred (Demise's Hatred) is still the same.

Even if he has the same soul, he is a new Ganondorf. It is introduced a new Link in each game, even if he shares the "spirit of the hero".

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OoT, WW, TP and ALttP share the same Ganon(dorf)
FSA is TP Ganon reincarnated.
LoZ Ganon in ALttP Ganon reincarnated, with no memory of OoT.