My timeline with the explanation

I will probably will get burn alive by this but I will try to revive the forum. By giving my personal timeline

This is my personal timeline with the explanation

Timeline
CT------------------ MM-TP
SS-OOT-- -
AT------------- ALttp-Oracle duo-LA-Zelda 1-Zelda 2-Mc-FS-FSA-WW-PH-ST

Explanation :
The unified and the Ct was confirmed since the begining. WW ph and ST also. In Alttp Link probably wishes for ALL of Ganon's evil to be undone. But that wish did not come completely into effect. For what would happen whit a future incarnation of Link. The oracle duo happen with the same Link. At the end of OOA Link goes away in a boat and that leads to LA. Years later Zelda 1 and 2 happen. When Link wished for Zelda to awake or for the evil done in the land to be undone that is when ALttP Link's wish came to effect. The sleeping Zelda woke up and all the evil was undone. So Ganon was sealed by the wish for all of is evil was never done. But his memory stayed. Sleeping Zelda got to bring back some races we see in MC. FS happen years after Mc. Then FSA. Zelda calls Ganon. A ancient demon reborn. It was not known he used to be a human. He got the trident in OOT. We see Phantom Ganondorf using it in the battle in the forest temple. Then he sended him to the void between the dimensions probably the evil realm. When he got seal in the evil realm he recovered the trident. Then Ganon was seal inside of the FS. Then he broke free of the seal centuries after. In the opening we see Ganon broke free in a mountain. The same place where the FS was guarded. Also the fairy queen from WW appaers in FSA. That fairy is probably the same as in WW. Also the FSA castle is the same as the one of WW.

The king and the call of the sacred realm

In OOT sheik says that the sages did not heared the call of the sacred realm and like I stated in a another theory the sacred realm probably is Hyrule in another time. After some more deep thinking I change the theory from past Hyrule to Future Hyrule. The king from that time send a warning a call of awakening to the sages of the time of OOT but because of the evil that zipped from the temple the call didn't got to them abd that part of the quest of OOT happens. For the time of ALttP it was already the time of the king who send the message. That is why it is said the king commanded the 7 sages to seal Ganon. Because of the message he sent commanding the sages. Between those 7 years Link was in the SR a war broke in Hyrule. The war that become the Imprisoning war. Everyone will ask about why the descendants of the sages are humans in ALttP. But after OOT Zora domain was frozen and there where no traces that it melt. No Zoras the new sage should had been human. The gorons didn't have enough power or courage to be the fire sage so a new sage should had been human. The kokiri cannot have children so the new sage is human. Impa supposly was the last sheikah so the new sage should be human. Nabboru was a gerudo. Who would want a sage to be a race of thieves who cause desctruction to the ladn. So the new sage human again. Like the new sages got the power of the old ones. There descendants become the keepers of the seal make by Ganon by the original ones

Reason why Four swords adventure cannot go where Aonuma put it:

The story takes place after Four Swords, when Link and Princess Zelda successfully managed to seal away the evil wind sorcerer Vaati in the Four Sword. Peace was believed to have finally been restored to Hyrule. However, one night, an ominous cloud covers Hyrule, throwing fear into the people of Hyrule. [1] Zelda then calls upon her most trusted childhood friend again. She wants to check up on the Four Swords again, fearing that the seal placed upon Vaati might have weakened. Inside the castle they meet up with the gathered six maidens, whose purpose is to protect Hyrule as well as the Four Sword Sanctuary. [2] With the help of the maidens Zelda summons a portal to the sanctuary.

That means that Four sword Link is the same as Adventures Link. So it would be imposible for Fs to go before OOT and FSA after TP. Because Link cannot survive that long

Seal Ganon broke free in WW backstory
In WW backstory we see that Ganon broke free of the seal in a mountain. In FSA he was seal in the FS and the sword was guarded in a mountain. That Ganon never was known to the people of Hyrule so the people thought the seal he broke free was the one put to him by the Hero of time. Zelda called him a ancient demon reborn. Notice that in Zelda 1 he was killed by Link. In Zelda 2 Link collects the triforce. To wake Sleeping Zelda. But he had to wish for something. He probably wished for all the evil to be undone. Like all of that evil was undone. Ganon was never killed and is still seal. But the memories of him being killed remain. For that reason Zelda calls him a demon reborn. That wish went along the one ALttP Link made

Descendants of the oracles
In MC we see Din,Nayru and Farore looking for a home. Din's trophy description said that she is a famous dancer from Holodrum. But she cannot be the same from OOS. That Din hide in a troupe of performers and became a famous dancer. Probably after the end of OOS. Her descendants also become dancers and one of those descendants went to Hyrule along the Nayru and Farore. Nayru is said to be a descendant of a long line of oracles from Labrynna. It was said by the maku tree that the land have existed for more than 400 years. Only 4-8 generations. Not enough to be a long line of oracles. So the same as Din one of her descendant went to Hyrule along Din and Farore.

The statue : In WW we see in Hyrule castle a statue of Link. That is supposed to be the Hero of time. But some of the characteristics belong to Four sword saga Links.

The statue:


Adult Link:


Four sword Link:


The sword and the shield are the same as the Hero of Time. But the tunic,hair and phisical shape are those of Four sword saga Links. After FSA Link defeat Ganon. Zelda decided to make the statue in honor of FSA Link. But the maker of the statue probably got confused with the legend of the Hero of time and that as the result. A statue of a mix of the HoT and FS saga Link.

Hyrule castle
The castles:
FSA

WW:

TP:


Now you will probably say: What does this have to do with anything? But it have to do with the timeline. The castles look the same. But there is something that proves the connection of the castle of FSA to WW. Those castle but are set in something similiar to the hill. While TP it is in solid ground. Unless Hyrule castle moved again after TP. FSA's castle is one and the same as WW. They are positioned in the same place in the center of the land. Both are in top of hill like landmass and both have the blue rooftiles

Hero of Men and the light force :
In the backstory of MC. We see that the minish bring the Hero of men a sword and a golden light. After AOL. We do not know about the Triforce after Link makes his wish. But probably Link stayed with the piece of courage and Ganon got the ToP back. But what about Princess Zelda. For that time there where 2 Zeldas in existence. Surely the triforce returned to the heavens not the sacred realm. Centuries later the minish brought it back to the land of Hyrule along the picori sword A.K.A four sword. That light force was passed down in the princess of Hyrule. Just like the ToW. Also in the opening of MC states that the hero with Courage and Wisdom defeated the evil. But the hero have always defeated the monster with courage. That line probably is hinting a connection between the Light force and the Triforce of Wisdom. When Vaati did the ritual to absorb the light force he only could absorb a small piece of it. The whole ToC splitting after Link left Hyrule could be explained by AOL Link when he reobtain the triforce by ways mentioned before. He left and Hyrule and the ToC got splitted. Returning to what happen to the ToW A.K.A Light force. That would explain why the ToW was missing a piece in WW. In another way of Daphnes just having the piece. Also the Magical sword come into this.

This is the magical sword


And this is the picori sword in the opening of MC:


They both have a similiar apparance and coloring. The only thing that is off about the similarities about the sword are the red jewels. But the picori did used Red hats and green robes.

Time traveling and the hero
In the WW opening it said that the HoT travel trough time to save the land. But how would the people of Hyrule know about Link's time travel. Only 2 explanations
1.Zelda went all gossipy and told everyone in Hyrule
2.The people of Hyrule thought that all the diferent incarnations of Link where the same and thought he traveled in time to come and save the land.

Also in the legend says that Ganon claimed the golden power for himself when he only took part of the golden power. If we do believe the legend that would link WW with ALttP where Ganon had taken the golden power. After he defeat the demon we see him going away in a horse. Just like the incarnation of ALttP,oracles and LA did in the opening of one of the oracle games. In Zelda 1 he was defeated by Link and was easily forgotten. In Zelda 2 when Link maked his wish he must had asked for something more that just than Zelda to awake. He probably wished for all the evil to be undone. That wish went pair with the ALttP Link one. Ganon was sealed once again and the evil was undone. In MC and FS Ganon/dorf was not mention so it was unrevelant for the legend in the opening of WW. But in FSA Link seals Ganon inside the FS. None ever knew about the refreement of Ganon. The FS was protected in a mountain close to the castle. Just the same place where he break free in the WW opening. So all the legends mixed together as one and they where all known as the HoT.

Almost at the end of the legend it said that the people believed the HoT would again come to save them

WW legend and the timeline explained:

Yep the WW opening legend explained the adult timeline:

It first explained the events of OOT with Ganondorf taking the golden power and it sealment. The people of Hyrule obviuosly didn't know about the time travel it was imposible. So the hero travel through time part is refering to the apparances of other Links.All the Links look similiar. So what did the people of Hyrule thought. That the hero traveled through time to save them once again. Then Ganondorf broke free in ALttP and Link defeated him wished on the triforce and it was like nothing had happen but the people remembered. We see Link going away from Hyrule in a horse. Just like in one of the oracle games. If someone can tell me in which one was it I will appreaciate it. Now we have:OOT-ALttP-Oracle-LA- Zelda 1 and 2. Yes Zelda 1 and 2 are not refered in the legend but that Link is a descendant of the one of ALttP so it falls automatically. In AOL Link's wish all the evil was undone so Ganon was resealed and the memories of him being killed where remembered. The reason he is call a demon reborn in FSA. Then he was seal in the Four sword and the sword was guarded in a mountain. Where he finally free himself in the legend and the Great flood occurs.NOw we have the ending of the legend. We see a little Link similia in apparance to the four sword sage Link. He haves the same tunic,hair style and everything. Before someone says he is OOT Link. Look closely to his sword. It is in white so it is a light color. Like the Four sword and the guard is similiar to the Four sword. We also see the Link standing in something similiar to a cloud. The only thing that would that be is the four sword saga. So everything in the adult timeline falls as: OOT-AlttP-Oracle duo-LA-Zelda 1 and 2-MC-FS-FSA-WW-PH-ST

Here is the legend:


Curiosity in Aonuma's timeline

This is his work in the zelda series

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Director)
2000 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Director)
2002 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Director y productor)
2004 - The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (Supervisor)
2004 - The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (Productor)
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Director y Productor)
2007 - The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Productor)
2009 - The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Productor)
2011 - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

This are the games Aonuma have work on
This is his timeline


All the games he have work on except Four sword. Are in the timeline that truly happens. All the other games that miyamoto did happen in a what if sceneratio if Link loses agains Ganon. So the only games he count that truly happens is his work.

Also all the games in the adult child split Aonuma worked are catalog as if the Hero is succesful and those where miyamoto worked are call if the Hero fail. This seems like if he is calling Miyamoto's work a failure or something similiar

Read before posting: Also please read the complete theory before posting. I want your opinions and what you guys/gals think of what the timeline may be and PLEASE NO HYRULE HISTORIA.

Side note: I have not play the oracles or FSA so the facts may not be correct

If it weren't for HH, I'd use this timeline. I think it's a good concept, but I heard the developers have assiduous HH is cannon.

Actually I read here in the forums that it was said that the book sshould not be taken to sseriously

Well, the developers like letting people debate timelines and such. I think the "don't take it too seriously" thing refers to how the official timeline does have inconsistencies or contradictions which are a result of 25 years of games and gameplay-over-story focus.

Well the book is their take on it. It's "official" Nintendo information. So you can have your personal timeline, but the actual one is out there no point in denying it.

HH hasn't even been released outside of Japan. Why should we officially take it as canon? It was a 25th Anniversary gift for the Japanese fans, which included their current take on the timeline.
Mark my words: That timeline is not set in stone.

Thanks guys/gals for the feedback. Adding to the theory. In OOT sheik says that the sages did not heared the call of the sacred realm and like I stated in a another theory the sacred realm probably is Hyrule in another time. After some more deep thinking I change the theory from past Hyrule to Future Hyrule. The king from that time send a warning a call of awakening to the sages of the time of OOT but because of the evil that zipped from the temple the call didn't got to them abd that part of the quest of OOT happens. For the time of ALttP it was already the time of the king who send the message. That is why it is said the king commanded the 7 sages to seal Ganon. Because of the message he sent commanding the sages. Between those 7 years Link was in the SR a war broke in Hyrule. The war that become the Imprisoning war. Everyone will ask about why the descendants of the sages are humans in ALttP. But after OOT Zora domain was frozen and there where no traces that it melt. No Zoras the new sage should had been human. The gorons didn't have enough power or courage to be the fire sage so a new sage should had been human. The kokiri cannot have children so the new sage is human. Impa supposly was the last sheikah so the new sage should be human. Nabboru was a gerudo. Who would want a sage to be a race of thieves who cause desctruction to the ladn. So the new sage human again. Like the new sages got the power of the old ones. There descendants become the keepers of the seal make by Ganon by the original ones

I revoke my previous statement. I never liked the HH timeline, and obviously it has some flaws, though some of them may be because try were created without the timeline involved. If it's still up for debate, then I'm debating.

People Translate the Japanese for us people to read HH. It is the Offical Timeline.

Click Here to go see HH translated
Its Pretty good.

Originally Posted by The Wind Fish

Well the book is their take on it. It's "official" Nintendo information. So you can have your personal timeline, but the actual one is out there no point in denying it.

Yeah pretty much this. The cannon timeline is already out. You can still make your own timelines but it would be more kind of a fanfiction than actual theorizing.

AGREED! If you look at my other Post, you can read its Translations.

I've been here for a while. I've read translations of the HH. Fan translations. It's still not official outside of Japan. It's barely official in Japan. This isn't Nintendo saying "These are the facts, end of story. Deal with it". They just wanted to share their take on the history of Hyrule as it stands right now, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of TLOZ. Again, the timeline isn't set in stone. Just you wait - They'll change it, time and time again (no pun intended).

EDIT: Maybe we should move this discussion over here and leave tlozbj's thread alone. What we should be discussing here is his theory, not canon vs. non-canon.

I found something interesting in Aonuma's timeline
This is his work in the zelda series

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Director)
2000 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Director)
2002 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Director y productor)
2004 - The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (Supervisor)
2004 - The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (Productor)
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Director y Productor)
2007 - The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Productor)
2009 - The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Productor)
2011 - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

This are the games Aonuma have work on
This is his timeline


All the games he have work on except Four sword. Are in the timeline that truly happens. All the other games that miyamoto did happen in a what if sceneratio if Link loses agains Ganon.

Edit: Also all the games in the adult child split Aonuma worked are catalog as if the Hero is succesful and those where miyamoto worked are call if the Hero fail. This seems like if he is calling Miyamoto's work a failure or something similiar

Simply put, nothing can go between Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time since there was no hero after Ocarina of Time and no hero before Wind Waker other than the Hero of Time.

That said, the "DT" (the old future time line) is a mere option to take to the new future time line. All three start after the events of Ocarina of Time. Nothing can go between OoT - MM, OoT - WW, OoT - ALttP.

How can you be sure? Other heroes may have fallen short to the HoT and he was the only important hero to the understandment of the game. Also if the FS sags go between OOT and WW. That would explain why does WW Link's tunic have the white pants like Mc Link. Also the same shield FS saga Links use is seen in WW and it does not seems that old.

Originally Posted by tlozbj

How can you be sure? Other heroes may have fallen short to the HoT

That's a great idea, but none of the heroes had fallen, and in the "DT" of the heroes only the Hero of Time fell.

Also if the FS sags go between OOT and WW. That would explain why does WW Link's tunic have the white pants like Mc Link. Also the same shield FS saga Links use is seen in WW and it does not seems that old.

Actually, Wind Waker doesn't specify which previous hero the shield came from. Since MC, FS, and OoT--not to mention the other Four Sword Hero--go before WW, it could be any of them.

That particular island could revere one of the FS heroes as much as the hero of time. But that's speculation. There's no real basis to put anything between OoT and WW.

EDIT: Wait a minute. The hero of time had a tunic with white pants as well. You know the future one that only the WW society in the "AT" know about.

Originally Posted by The Baton of the Wind

That's a great idea, but none of the heroes had fallen, and in the "DT" of the heroes only the Hero of Time fell

When I say fallen I mean they where overshadowed by the HoT. Also I explained how everything falls together in the OP

That's pure speculation, and there's no real proof to point to that. The Four Sword heroes still were a prominent legend in Wind Waker.

Was the Four Sword Hero mentioned in TWW? When?

^ The shield

EDIT: Though they didn't say "Four Sword Hero", they also did not say "hero of time." They said "legendary hero." And I don't remember the hero of time using that shield. But one of the Four Sword Series...