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Old 06-30-2012, 01:53 PM
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New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

In the Adult Timeline, the Great Flood changes the landscape of Hyrule and a few neighboring lands drastically. Hyrule, which now lies several thousand leagues below the sea, has been replaced with the Great Sea, and though it is by no means confirmed, the general consensus is that the World of the Ocean King is a flooded Termina, but that is a different thread. Flash forward a few generations, and Hyrule has been founded anew, as the far off Land of New Hyrule.
But one thing leaves me wondering; where did New Hyrule come from. Is it the Land of Labrynna, seeing as the Tower of Spirits may be the Black Tower in an alternate Timeline? Or could it be closer to Hyrule, the remains, perhaps, of the Ordona Province? Unless, of course, the land, which is one of the bigger Zelda nations, just came out of nowhere, which always a possibility. However, I doubt that, just because in the AT, there seems to always be a comparison to other games; by that I mean there are things in the AT games the developers put in that seem just like other things in the Zelda Universe, but evolved and different because of the Great Flood. Some great examples that come to mind are Dongorongo, Windfall Island,Valoo, Jabun, Yooks, etc., etc. The topic is open for debate, and I'm eager for material.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:59 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

New Hyrule ia another continent in the planet or whatever that Hyrule is. Also the Tower pf the spirits was made by the spirits of good as a kay and lock for the chains of malladus. New Hyrule can be ond of the 3 continents that form Hyrule in AOL or it was created by the triforce so that Daphnes wish could became true.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:19 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

[QUOTE] one of the 3 continents that form Hyrule in AOL .[QUOTE]

3? Isn't there only two (the top and bottom ones), or if not that then one (with LoZ taking place in the south-western corner of AoL's map)? Since when are there 3?
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:28 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

I'm counting maze island as one of them. It is the left and right one and the right one connects with another landmass that it is maze island. It is LOZ in the south wetern corner of AOL map not the opposite.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:35 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

Let's go over what we know about New Hyrule.

-It is north of Old Hyrule/The Great Sea, as evidenced by the fact that its southern border is coastline.
-The distance between New and Old Hyrule is considerable- New Hyrule's land (including its many mountains) cannot be seen from any location in Wind Waker.
-New Hyrule's altitude is considerable. It is higher than Old Hyrule, so much so that the entirety of New Hyrule's coastline is as high as one of Old Hyrule's highest mountaintops.
-New Hyrule has contained a preposterously tall tower (thirty floors, each capable of holding an armoured giant around eight feet tall, plus the top and bottom pieces, bringing the total to around fifty Phantom-compatible floors, around seventy normal floors) for a great deal of time, which was built, crucially, by the spirts of good.

The altitude and latitude alone would suggest that the New Hyrule plateau spends the entirety of the Ct and DT as a frozen wasteland.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:49 AM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

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-It is north of Old Hyrule/The Great Sea, as evidenced by the fact that its southern border is coastline.
This does not follow at all. By that logic, India is north of Spain, since the Indian coast is south of the mainlaind. We have no idea what course Tetra took to get to the New World, so it's impossible to say where it lies in relation to the Great Sea.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:37 AM
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Koholint=Isle of Ember; World of the Ocean King=Terminan Counterpart of New Hyrule

I like to think that the World of the Ocean King is actually the Terminan counterpart of a flooded New Hyrule, considering that many of the native New Hyrule races also appear in the World of the Ocean King.

And to a lesser extent, Koholink being an unflooded version of the World of the Ocean King, because of the whale god bringing Link there in order to save a world.

All involve dreams, and although Koholint definately isn't big enough to be the entire World of the Ocean King, it definately could be one of the islands. Judging from the volcano, it might be the Island of Ember.

Should I make a thread on these? I have plenty of proof which I didn't mention here.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

Maybe the added weight on the Hyrulean continent shifted the other plates. Like atlantis sinking and Mu rising?
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:41 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

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the general consensus is that the World of the Ocean King is a flooded Termina, but that is a different thread.
I don't know where you get your information from but that is most certainly not the general consensus.
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But one thing leaves me wondering; where did New Hyrule come from. Is it the Land of Labrynna, seeing as the Tower of Spirits may be the Black Tower in an alternate Timeline? Or could it be closer to Hyrule, the remains, perhaps, of the Ordona Province? Unless, of course, the land, which is one of the bigger Zelda nations, just came out of nowhere, which always a possibility. However, I doubt that, just because in the AT, there seems to always be a comparison to other games; by that I mean there are things in the AT games the developers put in that seem just like other things in the Zelda Universe, but evolved and different because of the Great Flood. Some great examples that come to mind are Dongorongo, Windfall Island,Valoo, Jabun, Yooks, etc., etc. The topic is open for debate, and I'm eager for material.
I don't think New Hyrule is related to any location we've seen before. It's certainly not Labrynna or Holodrum and it certainly isn't part of the Ordona Province. It's implied to be a completely separate landmass with it's own unique history, not connected to old Hyrule in any way.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:12 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

There were theories a while back on how exactly Hyrule is 'sunk'.
One idea was that the majority of land was lowered, with some points remaining in place while the rest were submerged in the rainfall. There's no evidence for it, but it seems more sensible for new Hyrule to be an area of normal altitude rather than a massive mountain with further mountains on top.

Otherwise I don't think the land that became new Hyrule was ever explored.
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:10 PM
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Re: New Hyrule pre-Great Flood

I think thats a good theory Magic Tech. I mean, imagine how New Hyrule would look like in CT or the DT timeline. If the Goddesses flooding Hyrule is true, instead of Hyrule being submerged, then that means NH would be an absolutely gigantic landmass miles in the sky and its smallest areas are higher than DM. That would look very weird, so I think NH is just as much Altitude as Old Hyrule, just that Old Hyrule sunk.
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