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Old 06-07-2012, 11:41 AM
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Re: Happy Mask Salesman's Masks are actually pretty sad...

The keaton mask was a gift from the curiosity shop owner to kafei so that a normal mask.But i don't remember how we get the don gero mask so i can't help.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:44 AM
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But the Curiosity Shop owner gave Link the mask, didn't he? I don't know, maybe he had the regret that he couldn't really help Kafei, and upon seeing Link could do it, his regrets went away.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:46 AM
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yeah but the mask first belong to kafei and then to link so if we don't see when it was given to kafei we don't know if it's normal or magical.Thats a good theory and maybe by doing that he gave the mask magical power or something.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:50 AM
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yeah but the mask first belong to kafei and then to link so if we don't see when it was given to kafei we don't know if it's normal or magical.Thats a good theory and maybe by doing that he gave the mask magical power or something.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. But maybe the mask was given magical powers when he gave it to Link after his regrets were healed.

Now only the Don Gero mask left~
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:54 AM
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Well i look for info and he gotted from a goron who was frozen and wanted something to eat and the goron already the mask but maybe like the keaton mask it got magical powers when link save the goron freeing him from his regret of dying and not seen his family or eat a rock sirloin.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:59 AM
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Well i look for info and he gotted from a goron who was frozen and wanted something to eat and the goron already the mask but maybe like the keaton mask it got magical powers when link save the goron freeing him from his regret of dying and not seen his family or eat a rock sirloin.
This. Mystery solved. But I guess we're deviating a bit from the original topic lol
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:01 PM
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This. Mystery solved. But I guess we're deviating a bit from the original topic lol
That's okay! I think we've all agreed that the Happy Mask Salesman is some sort of angelic figure who heals those with regrets before death. And since everyone in Majora's Mask is soon to die inevitably, that's a lot of people to heal!
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:05 PM
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That's okay! I think we've all agreed that the Happy Mask Salesman is some sort of angelic figure who heals those with regrets before death. And since everyone in Majora's Mask is soon to die inevitably, that's a lot of people to heal!
Ahaha that's true But again, not all masks in the world are magical. Some of the masks he owns are probably "normal". Magical, yes, probably. But not necessarily gotten from dead, regretful people.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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But what about the giant's mask all we know is that he gets it form defeating a eyegore.That mask is still a mystery.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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But what about the giant's mask all we know is that he gets it form defeating a eyegore.That mask is still a mystery.
Wow, true. Maybe it's just magical and that's it.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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But what about the giant's mask all we know is that he gets it form defeating a eyegore.That mask is still a mystery.
Yeah, well it comes from Stone Tower: Everything in Stone Tower is a mystery.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:18 PM
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Maybe it was created from the regrets of the giants for not being their to help that being the reason it's call the giant's mask.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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Maybe it was created from the regrets of the giants for not being their to help that being the reason it's call the giant's mask.
Yes, that seems feasible enough...it explains why the Giants didn't play much of a role in the game... So what about Romani's Mask? The Garos' Mask? Kafei's Mask? All these masks seem to be passed on from people who do not have regrets.

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Old 06-07-2012, 12:59 PM
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romani mask-she could have been regreting if she could not get to deliver the milk and when Link help her her relieve is cleared.

garo mask-don't remember how we obtain it.

kafei mask-kafei's mother was regreting she couldn't find someone to look for kafei and when Link offer himself her regrets were cleared.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:02 PM
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romani mask-she could have been regreting if she could not get to deliver the milk and when Link help her her relieve is cleared.
Seems feasible.

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garo mask-don't remember how we obtain it.
From the Gorman Brothers after beating them in a race...so it's their loss. How have they been healed?

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kafei mask-kafei's mother was regreting she couldn't find someone to look for kafei and when Link offer himself her regrets were cleared.
I think it's a little more than that. When you receive it, Madame Aroma mistakes Link for her Private Detective. Therefore, I think she was relieved that she did not have the duty to find her son, and that the burden had been passed on to someone else.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:05 PM
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Yes because i can free them for their sadness and permit them to pass to the afterlife.And who knows maybe the mask is made of the sadness of the soul and the rest of the soul pass to the place were souls go in the zelda universe.So yes because i can help sad souls pass to the afterlife.
Seriously? The mental strain would destroy me within days! Your only company would be the dead and a little tunic wearing do-gooder.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:21 PM
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Re: Happy Mask Salesman's Masks are actually pretty sad...

If masks are given when you complete quests, you could say that the person regretted not being able to do what the quest was. It's not really falsifiable. Also, because the world is ending, it's easy to say that the masks are from dying people. There's no way to get a mask from someone who isn't dying, so that can't be proven wrong.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:25 PM
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There's no way to get a mask from someone who isn't dying [...]
What do you mean? Aside from the transformation masks, all the other ones we get aren't from dying people (as far as I remember).
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:27 PM
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A few things of note. The Happy Mask Salesman does NOT say that he made the mask to commemorate the occasion. He says the mask was made because of the Song of Healing, and he decides to give to to Link in commemoration. The two things are not one and the same. The Song of Healing heals people of regrets, sadness, and evil. It then channels these things into masks. The Happy Mask Salesman giving Link the Deku Mask in commemoration of his being healed does not indicate that is what he is all about.

Secondly, trying to attribute this to all the masks in MM is silly. It's the Song of Healing that makes masks out of regret, sorrow, evil, and all of that. This ONLY applies to masks made as a result of that song. I mean, the Romani Mask isn't even a unique mask. Everyone that goes to the Milk Bar has one. I don't see the point in trying to attribute the qualities of masks made from the Song of Healing to all masks. Masks can simply have powers in the world of Zelda, and those powers can come from various things. Note that the Mask of Truth is also featured in Ocarina of Time, so clearly there is more than one of those as well, and it has nothing to do with regrets of the dead or dying.

And finally, I do not agree with the notion that the Happy Mask Salesman is some Grim Reaper/Angel of Death. For one thing, he only came to Termina to track down Majora's Mask, and has no interest in going into town himself. If he was there to heal people's pain or harvest regrets of the dead or whatever, wouldn't he be in Termina doing just that? There's certainly no shortage of regrets or dead in that land. Secondly, why would be spending his time running a Mask shop in Hyrule? And before anyone suggests they are not one and the same, they added elements to the shop in Ocarina of Time 3DS to confirm they intended the character to be the same person. And indeed in Ocarina of Time he explains that he calls himself the Happy Mask Salesman because he is a "salesman" of "happiness", because by selling and trading masks, he is spreading happiness.

Obviously there is something supernatural and unexplained about him. He is implied to know way more than he should, he knows the Song of Healing, his motives are ambiguous, and what was he doing with Majora's Mask in the first place? But if he were some angel of death traveling the land to heal sorrow and regret, why are the only two times we see him, he's running a shop to make profit and spread happiness or concerned only with getting Majora's Mask back? It doesn't really add up at all, I think. I think he certainly has used the Song of Healing to get masks before, but it's simply because he collects and sells the masks, not because it's his job as some angel or grim reaper.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:38 PM
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Thank you for that, GoldenNocturne. I agree with everything you said and, while the healing sorrows thing might work for some masks, it doesn't apply to all masks (so true about Romani Mask). And yes, I don't think the Happy Mask Salesman is an "angel of death" that goes around healing people's regrets.

Also, about added elements in OoT that prove the Happy Mask Salesman from that game and MM are the same person, what elements are that?
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