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Old 03-04-2012, 05:16 PM
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Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Why does the moon tear fall exactly after Link observes Skull Kid other than it simply being a gameplay mechanic? Maybe the Skull Kid was annoyed with Link and therefore decided to smash him with a meteor, however, ended up some yards away?

Plus, Link plays Saria`s song in the AT (which occurs after the first meeting with Zelda, and to learn Saria`s song you first need to learn Zelda`s lullaby), so the Skull Kid cannot refer to Link who gave him the mask, played the song with, fought with, etc.

Help, I`m confused.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:31 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

I think that maybe it would lessen the value of the moon's tear if it fell just randomly. As for your second question... inception in the 3rd degree
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:51 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Well perhaps with the moon's tear thing it could be that as the moon is drawn closer to earth the tidal forces between the two increase. This would have the effect of the earth tearing the moon apart and thus the pieces of moon that were breaking off would fall to the earth and be called moons tears. It may be luck that it broke off exactly when link looks at the moon. But the closer the moon gets to earth the stronger the tidal forces would affect it thus the number falling would increase. Probably not that complicated but it is one thing I could think of.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:28 PM
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Why does the moon tear fall exactly after Link observes Skull Kid other than it simply being a gameplay mechanic? Maybe the Skull Kid was annoyed with Link and therefore decided to smash him with a meteor, however, ended up some yards away?

Plus, Link plays Saria`s song in the AT (which occurs after the first meeting with Zelda, and to learn Saria`s song you first need to learn Zelda`s lullaby), so the Skull Kid cannot refer to Link who gave him the mask, played the song with, fought with, etc.

Help, I`m confused.
At the end of the game skull kid says that Link smells like the fairy boy that taught him Saria's Song. He was unable to recognize him while under the spell of Majora's Mask
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:14 AM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Link evidently remembers everything he went through since he knew to go to princess Zelda in the end of OoT.

Moon's Tear, I'm betting Skull Kid was just messing with Link.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:24 PM
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Hm, so my second question is still not understood...

When Link originally met Zelda in OoT, everything after that is the AT, including Link playing the song to skull kid. But since MM occurs in the CT, these events never happened.

And by the way, Skull kid could recognize Link as at his dialouge at the beginning. He simply didn`t care...

Oh wait, hold on... what if the child Skull kid mentions in the ending is Saria!? Huh? Skull kid seems to already know saria`s song at the beginning, and that the smell was just Saria`s because Link presumably hanged around with her a lot pre-OoT? Could be fanfic.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:41 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Probably is.

As for BOTH of your questions, all I have to say is...Skull Kid, under the influence of the mask, did crazy things that made no sense. Skull Kid didn't see Link at the beginning of MM; Majora did, and responded as such. Presumably knowing Link was chasing him, Majora deliberately gave him the Moon's Tear to give him the element of hope (he insults you by mooning you afterwards). The second question is answered by Link probably meeting Skull Kid on his quests across the land (he met with Zelda).

That's my theory.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

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Plus, Link plays Saria`s song in the AT (which occurs after the first meeting with Zelda, and to learn Saria`s song you first need to learn Zelda`s lullaby), so the Skull Kid cannot refer to Link who gave him the mask, played the song with, fought with, etc.

Help, I`m confused.
That doesn't really keep Link from teaching the Skullkid Saria's song as a child. He remembers everything from his journey.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Nope, Skull Kid saw Link, not Majora. He removes the mask when saying that.

But just listen, the person Skull Kid described at the end could not be Link, since Link never played any song to him, let down taught one, in that specif timeline branch. Plus Skull Kid already KNEW it.

Saria could have easily taught the Skull Kid her song before OoT, removing the problem of AT/CT and the fact that Skull kid did recognize saria`s song in OoT.

Plus, in OoT: Link plays Saria`s Song to Skull Kid, signifying his connection with Saria. Then, in MM: The skull kid smells Link, recognizing the smell of the 'fairy kid', then he wants to play with you. Makes perfect sense to me. ;o
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

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Nope, Skull Kid saw Link, not Majora. He removes the mask when saying that.
I'm lost. Why is that important?

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But just listen, the person Skull Kid described at the end could not be Link, since Link never played any song to him, let down taught one, in that specif timeline branch. Plus Skull Kid already KNEW it.
We don't know what Link did during the time between OoT and MM. He could've easily taught the Skullkid that song. And how do you know that the Skullkid already knew it?

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Saria could have easily taught the Skull Kid her song before OoT, removing the problem of AT/CT and the fact that Skull kid did recognize saria`s song in OoT.

Plus, in OoT: Link plays Saria`s Song to Skull Kid, signifying his connection with Saria. Then, in MM: The skull kid smells Link, recognizing the smell of the 'fairy kid', then he wants to play with you. Makes perfect sense to me. ;o
That's possible, too. I still don't see any reason why Link wouldn't be the one to teach him, though.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:21 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Alright, when Link plays saria`s song the Skull kid kinda goes like this: "Oh you know Saria`s song! We should be friends!". Since he knows the name of the song I assume he knows the song itself.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
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Ah, that's true. Mah bad.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

Nah no problems, but you are getting my point now, no?

Also that "skull kid removing mask" I wrote because Vaequier(?) said that Majora saw Link and not Skull kid. To begin that I dont even believe that statement and go with the idea that skull kid is heavily corrupted.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:42 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

The Moon's Tear just seems to fall there for Link. I'm not sure why the moon would shed a tear for Link. Hmm...
I always thought that the skull kid was referring to Link when he says that bit about a fairy kid teaching him a song. Now I'm not so sure.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:14 AM
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For the first point: The skull kid seems completely oblivious to Link during the last half of the final day when looking at the moon for the tear. I don't believe the skull kid was trying to smash Link with the tear. I mean it wouldn't be the first "inconsistency" when you think of events such as Mikau's death.

For the second, that's an interesting idea with the whole Saria thing. I suppose it could be possible but it would seem kind of strange, assuming Link returned to the point in time directly before pulling the master sword from the pedestal (which makes more sense to me since he'd be stuck in the temple behind the door of time if he were to return to any time before he opened it), since they would have probably met on at least two occasions before in the lost woods (mask sale and heart piece) without him recognizing Link. Then again, maybe the skull kid in question is a completely different skull kid that we hadn't met in OoT and Saria just taught her song to every damn skull kid she met LOL.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:26 PM
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Yeah, but the problem withh that placement would be that Zelda had been taken away by Impa, yet at the ending she is back at her usual spot and displays the same animations + expressions,
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:09 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

MM did not happen immediately after the child ending of OoT, it was after a few months. It's not impossible for Link to encounter and played the song for him again during that time.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:55 PM
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Why does the moon tear fall exactly after Link observes Skull Kid other than it simply being a gameplay mechanic? Maybe the Skull Kid was annoyed with Link and therefore decided to smash him with a meteor, however, ended up some yards away?

Plus, Link plays Saria`s song in the AT (which occurs after the first meeting with Zelda, and to learn Saria`s song you first need to learn Zelda`s lullaby), so the Skull Kid cannot refer to Link who gave him the mask, played the song with, fought with, etc.

Help, I`m confused.
Wait, so the child timeline is where Link goes back to the past as a child, and the adult timeline is where adult Zelda is left & Ganondorf banished, right?

In the end of OOT, Link stops Ganondorf from even getting started conquering Hyrule because he kept the knowledge of the fact that he was going to try all that crap, because he had already experienced it. Who's to say Saria's song wasn't remembered as well, and then in the months between OOT and MM he met the skull kid inside of the lost woods and played it for him?
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:03 PM
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Re: Skull Kid Inconsistencies

As stated by an awesome few above me, Majora's Mask is not a direct "Link talks to Zelda, now Link goes to Termina immediately" sequel. Obvious tells?

1. He's grown enough to wear the Hylian Shield on his arm, not his back.
2. He now rides (owns?) Epona, who appears to be larger than in OoT Child time, which implies he's been chilling at the ranch.
3. Zelda has given him the Ocarina of Time and taught him the Song of Time again, even though they no longer need to open the Door of Time.

With these things having happened, I don't think it's that unlikely that Link wouldn't have gone and hung out with Saria and learned her song at all, or started a friendship with Skull Kid before he disappeared.

Just because we don't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't happen.

On the subject of the Moon's Tear, I'm with the taunting argument. Majora is trying to make you think you can do anything about him.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:08 PM
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^ The above comment accidently Implies a threesome. Anyone else catch that?
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