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Old 02-08-2012, 09:52 AM
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Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

You know, there’s a lot of proves, just take a look:

•“You have...never been to Hyrule, right?" – Rusl (Twilight Princess)
•“Whoa! An Ordonian! Hey, guy!" — Coro (Twilight Princess)
•"Oh, no, I don't believe he's from Hyrule proper at all. No, my understanding is that he's from the small neighbouring province of Ordona." — Shad (Twilight Princess)
•"Among those living in the light, interlopers who excelled at magic appeared. Wielding powerful sorcery, they tried to establish dominion over the Sacred Realm. It was then that the goddesses ordered us three light spirits to intervene. We sealed away the great magic those individuals had mastered. You know this magic..." — Lanayru (Twilight Princess)

What do you think?
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:13 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

I think they're talking more about Hyrule Town than Hyrule as a whole itself. Most of them refer to the town or the castle.

But I've always pondered about the Ordona light spirit. Lanayru seems to mention the "three light spirits" all the time, so it's sort of a mystery.

I wonder if Hyrule Historia mentions anything about Ordona or the light spirits in TP.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:49 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Yes, this one:

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"Among those living in the light, interlopers who excelled at magic appeared. Wielding powerful sorcery, they tried to establish dominion over the Sacred Realm. It was then that the goddesses ordered us three light spirits to intervene. We sealed away the great magic those individuals had mastered. You know this magic..."
It sounds that there is only three. That's my biggest reason for my theory
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:17 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

This was one of the most confusing parts in Twilight Princess. Why would Ordona have a light spirit if it isn't part of Hyrule? And why didn't Ordona have a fused shadow to guard?
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:19 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Considering that residents of theo other provinces are not called Eldinian or what have you, it's safe today that Ordona is a recently annexed province and part of Greater Hyrule, while Hyrule Proper refers to either the Castle, Town and the Lanayru Provence, or all three of the provinces that date back to the SS days. Orodona definitely was not part of the Holy Land of Hyrule when the Light Spirits sealed the Twili, since that light spirit did not participate in the war with the interlopers (by the only account we have).

The light spirit of Ordona is simply the Gaurdian of that particular area. Their may yet be other Light Spirits, or other types of Gaurdian spirits in the lands surrounding Hyrule or the lands far beyond its borders. The Maku trees in OoX seem to be a type of Gaurdian as well, more similar to the GDT or Jabu Jabu though.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:33 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Ordona is like the Canada of Hyrule, it's there, but nobody really cares much about it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:01 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

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The light spirit of Ordona is simply the Gaurdian of that particular area. Their may yet be other Light Spirits, or other types of Gaurdian spirits in the lands surrounding Hyrule or the lands far beyond its borders.
But at the end of Twilight Princess, Zelda summons the 4 light spirits to help her. If Ordona isn't part of Hyrule, then how come Zelda can summon it? And if she has the power to summon light spirits, if there were any others, wouldn't she summon those as well?
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:37 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Ordona is a part of the coninent of Hyrule, but as for the country itself, no. It wasn't a part of Hyrule until some time before TP.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:27 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

I thought Hyrule was a planet? :S It says that "Hyrule" was created by the 3 goddesses.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

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I thought Hyrule was a planet? :S It says that "Hyrule" was created by the 3 goddesses.
For all we know, Hyrule could be a floating turtle in space.

Or the only large land mass on some planet.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:41 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Yea I guess you're right.

About Ordona, I think it's simply an area on the outskirts of the 3 provinces of Hyrule Kingdom, but yea I would call it part of Hyrule.

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Ordona is like the Canada of Hyrule, it's there, but nobody really cares much about it.
Hey now, why you hating on Canada?
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:16 PM
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I thought Hyrule was a planet? :S It says that "Hyrule" was created by the 3 goddesses.
I think the planet is also called Hyrule as well.

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Or the only large land mass on some planet.
We know for a fact it isn't.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:33 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

I think Ordona is simply a province outside of Hyrule that is still connected and has good relations with Hyrule. Maybe it's a territory like Peurto Rico.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:30 PM
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I think Ordona is simply a province outside of Hyrule that is still connected and has good relations with Hyrule. Maybe it's a territory like Peurto Rico.
That would make sense
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:21 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

So Eldin, Lanayru and Faron province was the first ones, and the other where added as a part of Hyrule Kingdom later?
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:30 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Looking at all the opinions so far, here's what I gather.

In the beginning of the kingdom of hyrule, there were only the three light spirits. At some time before the happenings of TP, Ordon became a territory of Hyule, either annexed in and not fully accepted as part of the country yet, or a territory, like previously stated, Puerto Rico.

Because Ordon became part of Hyrule, Ordona was obligated to anser Zeldas call. But because Ordon and Ordona are new to the country of Hyrule, so to speak, it has little to no history with Hyrule proper.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that this would also imply that many, if not all, regions of Hyrule have some kind of spirit guarding it, or that for some reason, possibly and most probably the magic of the Trifocre, countries that are part of Hyrule attain a spirit to guard it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:30 AM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Yeah, I was about to post the same as Majoras Past.
Ordon seems to be a very recent additition to Hyrule (kingdom) territory. It's shown in several quots that many don't consider it Hyrule "proper" yet, and that the Ordonians bring a gift/offering to Hyrule castle (well planning to...Link ends up stealing that stuff, it was either the sword or the shield) strongly suggests that they have recently "joined" them seeing benefits of protection or increased trade perhaps.

They probably did the kind of thing Ganondorf was pretending to do in OoT.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:20 AM
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They probably did the kind of thing Ganondorf was pretending to do in OoT.
nice parallel. Both instances could be seen as potential or recent acquisitions into the kingdom, with the leaders paying homage or tribute as a show of loyalty to the crown.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:43 PM
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Re: Is Ordona a part of Hyrule?

Of course, going by the relative placements of the Master Sword and Death Mountain OoT actually took place mostly in Ordona to begin with. But in TP, Ordona is basically like the boonies, a small rural village that may be technically part of Hyrule Kingdom, but is in many respects fairly far removed from the capital.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:08 PM
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I just thought of something. Why is Ordon not in FSA (which is after TP apparently)? Was it just not thought of yet, or does it simply lack the label?
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