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Old 01-08-2012, 10:19 PM
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So, this may be old news to some of you, but I want to put this out there:
It is said in Twilight Princess that when people are exposed to the Twilight, they become either spirits or Shadow monsters. I conjecture that all of the bosses in Twilight Princess are normal creatures seen throughout their respective dungeons, morphed and twisted by either a Fused Shadow or a Mirror Shard.

Diababa - Deku Baba that found a Fused Shadow
Fyrus - Darbus after touching a Fused Shadow
Morpheel - perhaps a Hylian Loach that came into contact with a Fused Shadow
Stallord - I haven't finished Skyward Sword yet, but maybe Lanayru (dragon)'s skeleton, corrupted directly by Zant
Blizzeta - Yeta with a Mirror Shard
Armogohma - A spider with a Mirror Shard
Argorok - Kagorok with a Mirror Shard

Well? What do you think?

And then this also applies to many bosses in other games; some of them are likely regular creatures corrupted by Ganon.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:04 AM
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Re: TP Bosses

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So, this may be old news to some of you, but I want to put this out there:
It is said in Twilight Princess that when people are exposed to the Twilight, they become either spirits or Shadow monsters. I conjecture that all of the bosses in Twilight Princess are normal creatures seen throughout their respective dungeons, morphed and twisted by either a Fused Shadow or a Mirror Shard.

Diababa - Deku Baba that found a Fused Shadow
Fyrus - Darbus after touching a Fused Shadow
Morpheel - perhaps a Hylian Loach that came into contact with a Fused Shadow
Stallord - I haven't finished Skyward Sword yet, but maybe Lanayru (dragon)'s skeleton, corrupted directly by Zant
Blizzeta - Yeta with a Mirror Shard
Armogohma - A spider with a Mirror Shard
Argorok - Kagorok with a Mirror Shard

Well? What do you think?

And then this also applies to many bosses in other games; some of them are likely regular creatures corrupted by Ganon.


I always assumed that Morpheel was a Morpha, the boss from OoT's Water Temple, just touched by Twilight.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:29 PM
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Re: TP Bosses

Well, Morpha was a unique boss created by Ganon. After it's defeat, there were no more Morphas.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:37 PM
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Re: TP Bosses

I like stallord =lanayru that would be crazy
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:50 PM
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Well, Morpha was a unique boss created by Ganon. After it's defeat, there were no more Morphas.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:02 AM
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I like stallord =lanayru that would be crazy
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And makes odd sense...
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:23 AM
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Re: TP Bosses

Well, here's what the wiki says:

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I haven't played OoT in a while, but apparently there's reason to believe Morpha is directly created by Ganon.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:06 AM
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Well, when you save Lanayru from it's illness the bones are no longer there, and he has eternal life, so I don't think Stallord is him.
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:13 AM
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Well, when you save Lanayru from it's illness the bones are no longer there, and he has eternal life, so I don't think Stallord is him.
Right, I knew that, but I feel like maybe the dragons sloughed off their mortal coils and became light spirits, and Lanayru's skeleton happened to fall in SS's Temple of Time, which later became the Arbiter's Grounds. Obviously, this is theory, but I think it's viable.

And more on topic, I feel like most bosses in most games are either created by the villain or corrupted by evil. Like in WW, I'm pretty sure that the Helmaroc King was just one of those birdies on Dragon Roost, magically enhanced by Ganon. That's another example I've thought of.
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:37 PM
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Re: TP Bosses

I has always thought on Armogohma as a Gohma that came in contact with a Mirror Shard. The name comes from Armos, the stone statues, and Gohma, the spider creature.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:19 PM
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Ganon probably never created Morpha in the Child Timeline. Plus why couldn't he create him again in Twilight Princess? The resemblance between Morpha and Morpheel is just way too similar to call them not related in some way.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:34 PM
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I'd be more inclined to believe that Stallord was just a demon. Arbiter's Grounds was a prison, so it would make sense that Stallord, the ReDead Knights, etc., were all undead prisoners.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:28 AM
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I'd be more inclined to believe that Stallord was just a demon. Arbiter's Grounds was a prison, so it would make sense that Stallord, the ReDead Knights, etc., were all undead prisoners.
I always thought that Stallord is the dead body of a monster that was guarding the mirror entrance
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:34 PM
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I think Stallord was like the guardian of the prison.
Although, it doesn't seem much like a prison.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:48 AM
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stallord was probably used as a punishment of some sorts. they would feed prisoners to it.
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:27 PM
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stallord was probably used as a punishment of some sorts. they would feed prisoners to it.
I like this idea. Everywhere around him are skeletons of dead people. It could be that he became too uncontrollable, so they had to put him down (all those swords in the skull). Alternativelly the skeletons killed him but were trapped inside the room. The skeletons could be either the criminals or the executioners.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:22 PM
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I like this idea. Everywhere around him are skeletons of dead people. It could be that he became too uncontrollable, so they had to put him down (all those swords in the skull). Alternativelly the skeletons killed him but were trapped inside the room. The skeletons could be either the criminals or the executioners.
Yea like arbiters grounds is like maximum security prison/death row. there are many types of punishment. In real life you have life sentences, hanging, firing squad, gas chamber, electric chair, and lethal injection. Though with the somewhat medieval mindset of it all, different crimes probably a lotted different punishments, such as hands being cut off for stealing, stoning to death for adultery, etc.. But in the arbiter's grounds case the different punishments, depending on the crime, were that of life imprisonment, execution by Death Sword (the mini-boss), execution by the sages (for more powerful entities), or being banished into the Twilight Realm. Though thats just my take on it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:58 PM
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Yea like arbiters grounds is like maximum security prison/death row. there are many types of punishment. In real life you have life sentences, hanging, firing squad, gas chamber, electric chair, and lethal injection. Though with the somewhat medieval mindset of it all, different crimes probably a lotted different punishments, such as hands being cut off for stealing, stoning to death for adultery, etc.. But in the arbiter's grounds case the different punishments, depending on the crime, were that of life imprisonment, execution by Death Sword (the mini-boss), execution by the sages (for more powerful entities, or being banished into the Twilight Realm. Though thats just my take on it.
I don't know; it seems that with the state of the place itself, it was abandoned for whatever reason, or repurposed only to house the mirror of Twilight, the only exception to that being Ganondorf's execution. It seems that a lot of the place is relatively more ancient than the mirror chamber.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:20 PM
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Well, when you save Lanayru from it's illness the bones are no longer there, and he has eternal life, so I don't think Stallord is him.
Since SS takes place a very long time ago, it's possible he got ill again somehow.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:12 AM
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I don't know; it seems that with the state of the place itself, it was abandoned for whatever reason, or repurposed only to house the mirror of Twilight, the only exception to that being Ganondorf's execution. It seems that a lot of the place is relatively more ancient than the mirror chamber.
maybe after a war of some sorts it was closed down, sealed, and abandoned as it might not have served any legitimate purpose in a peaceful Hyrule. Notice all the ruins and damge done to infrastructure in Hyrule and the large amount of enemies that roam the planes. It seems that Hyrule has gone through a terrible war and had to cut down on their army size after the war was over to make ends meet and lost a lot of influence over its provinces.

Even with the arbiter's grounds empty, we also notice that the gerudo are no longer present, suggesting that they were wiped out in a war. though again, mere speculation.
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