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Old 12-22-2011, 02:33 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he was revived.
I read this a little while ago from someone who knows Japanese a bit better than I do:

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Isn't that just a mistranslation? I have always thought that it was the Trident that was from ancient times.

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Old 12-22-2011, 02:34 PM
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I lol'd

Free to edit sites cannot be used as a source of information, regardless of whether or not they are accurate. As I stated earlier, I disproved something that people had always believed which was on a trusted free to edit site.
If it was false it would have been removed in no time, but it's still there.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:35 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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If it was false it would have been removed in no time, but it's still there.
In which case my brother producing Dizzee Rascal records must be true, as that's been there for years!...

(it's not true, by the way)
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:39 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

I don't think Zelda articles on wikipedia are very obscure pages that nobody corrects because they get 0 visits.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:44 PM
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I don't think Zelda articles on wikipedia are very obscure pages that nobody corrects because they get 0 visits.
Nor are Dizzee Rascal pages. When he has a new single out his pages are usually well up on the hit count, at least in the UK. The point is that stuff stays on Wikipedia for ages sometimes before being taken off. Sure, if someone swaps the images for 'Jesus Christ' and 'Smegma' people take notice, but otherwise it is a free for all.
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*What actually happened*What if Vaati had been sealed, not destroyed, in tMC*
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Yes, but my point is that people would have taken notice of it if it were false. And it has been confirmed on numerous message boards. You already got your third branch confirmination. *shrug*
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:48 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

If noone chooses to contest it it will remain up there. Again, everyone believed that the 1999 Miyamoto interview was in Nintendo Power because no one bothered to look it up. They all just blindly trusted the wiki. Then I finally looked it up and disovered the source was 100% made up.

Also, numerous message boards are just talking about what 1 man placed on the internet. Correct me if I am wrong by providing a second origin source.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:50 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

But who cares about that? This is about the Zelda timeline, something people have been debating to death for years. If an interview is from a certain magazine or a website is a different matter.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:52 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

The interview was related to the timeline. Specifically it provided an exact order.

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Hey look, that source still hasn't been changed!

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Timeline_Quotes

First reference, lists it as page 116 of Nintendo Power. It is not there. I have proof even.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:53 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Still no scans? Scanners aren't that hard to come by.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:54 PM
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Like I said, nobody cares enough to change it. People do care about the timeline.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:56 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Do we have any actual translations for the third branch reasoning yet? Because while I don't believe that OoT-ALttP does not work well, the biggest problem is the reasoning behind it. Link dying? Get real. There's got to be a better reason than that. I would even believe that it's the predestined future for if Link stayed in the future after defeating Ganon instead of going back in time. I'd buy that. But not this silly game over, death, fail, what if split. No. Just no. I really hope they release the book in the West. (Probably won't though. Even if they did, I wouldn't trust NoA's translating)
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:56 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

You do not appear to be listening. That was a timeline quote. It stated the exact timeline. It in fact contradicts the current timeline that was revealed. It messed up a lot of peoples theories.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

I thought we were talking about wikipedia's reliability in this particular case. Not if Miyamoto's timeline turned out to be correct.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

^ At what points are the original creator quotes contradicted by the timeline?
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:01 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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I thought we were talking about wikipedia's reliability in this particular case. Not if Miyamoto's timeline turned out to be correct.
I do not care whether the timeline is correct or not. The point is that a wiki posted wrong information that was not changed. It completely made it up in fact. There was no reason for Issue 116 of Nintendo Power to contain that interview, but it was made up to be that issue anyway. The internet lies to you, and while I am not saying that it is right now, you cannot say that because wikipedia says something that it is true.

Of course you can always try submitting wikipedia as a source for a research paper and see what happens.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

About FSA Ganon

Ganondorf might very well be an ancient Demon reborn, nevertheless, he must have been (re)born within the last century. It is more playsible that Ganondorf is 30-40 years or something like that. Anyway, 100 years is far too little for TP to be forgotten.

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Old 12-22-2011, 03:03 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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^ At what points are the original creator quotes contradicted by the timeline?
Miyamoto's 1998 order. Obviously now we can say that was either mistaken or old intent, but it's a contradiction nonetheless.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:05 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Of course I know wikipedia is not always to be trusted. I'm saying, if it was wrong it would have been changed. Why? Because people in Japan can directly check the source. Would they have cared if somebody would have wrote something false about a subject nobody cares about? No. Would they have cared if somebody said something false about the Zelda timeline and enforced that view on everybody who read the article? Of course they would.

I get that wikipedia lies to me, but that's not the point.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:10 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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             ムジュラ→トワプリ→4剣+
              ↑
スカウォ→ぼうし→4剣→時オカ→神トラ→木の実→夢島→初代→リン冒
              ↓ 
             タクト→砂時計→汽笛
        MMTP→4S+
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SSTMC→4S→OoTALttP→OoX→LALoZAoL
        ↓ 
        TWWPHST

This is coming from a Japanese guy with the book.

Or, if you use Google Translate...

Majora Towapuri → 4 → Swords

Dream Island → → → phosphorus 冒 first tiger nuts when → → → God Ken Oka Sukauo hat → 4 →

Tact whistle → → Hourglass
Also, let's not forget this post, which lines up with the Jap Wikipedia and the Korean guy. I can't find the source of where this was said because Google doesn't let you google arrows.
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