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Old 12-21-2011, 01:04 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

everybody is getting upset about the tri-split caused by a supposed "link's failure in something..." but if we analyze the prologue in ALttP, it clearly says that the ancient sages looked out for a hero to wield the master sword but they found none, so i don't think link failed in doing anything he may have just never existed in that timeline...
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:06 PM
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I've mentioned this a bit eariler, but there was a post at gonintendo that i agree with regarding the three split:


A post from gonintendo which I resonate with:

"Here is what they mean by the three-way split:

Link Fails - Link had received all three spiritual stones and is on his way to the Temple of Time. Zelda and Impa ride off on the horse and Zelda gives Link the Ocarina. Then Link goes to the Temple and pulls the Master Sword. STOP. This is where "Link fails". Once Link pulls the Master Sword, he doesn't come back and Hyrule falls to Ganondorf.

Hero of Time Wins (child) - Link goes back to a kid after defeating Ganon as an adult, and warns the people of Hyrule about Ganondorf. STOP. Now this is where you can prove that the 3-way-split-theory is justifiable. If Link were sent back to the exact time he left, his warning would have been too little, too late, wouldn't it? Ganondorf was already in the middle of his takeover, and Zelda had already fled. Who would he warn? Link is REALLY sent back to his first meeting with Zelda. THIS is why there are 3 timelines. The Link that collected the 3 spiritual stones and got the Ocarina of Time failed to help Zelda stop Ganondorf, and is gone in one timeline already. This is another Link that succeeded.

Hero of Time Wins (present) - Adult Link defeats Ganon, and Adult Zelda sends him back to relive his childhood. Ganon comes back in this time and without any Link to stop him, they have to flood Hyrule. STOP. What Nintendo intended is that because the adult that defeated Ganon was plucked from 7 years ago, there was no Link known to the world. The child who grew up to be an adult while sleeping in the Temple of Time is gone."
If that failure is true, does that mean the MS is gone? Where does Link go? But perhaps it would fit in with LttP's MS story...
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:08 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

WHAT THE... Where did Link go? That makes no sense.... so drawing the sword in the 1st place made a split?!

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It looks like it says "downfall timeline" or "timeline of [the] downfall."
*checks again* Oh, yeah. I just saw "downfall" and sort of assumed rather than using my brain, sory about that.
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

It would have helped if they had clarified this kind of thing back when they confirmed the split timeline. Unless this was just a "crap we need to put the old games in somewhere! Here! Third timeline!"
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:09 PM
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I've mentioned this a bit eariler, but there was a post at gonintendo that i agree with regarding the three split:


A post from gonintendo which I resonate with:

"Here is what they mean by the three-way split:

Link Fails - Link had received all three spiritual stones and is on his way to the Temple of Time. Zelda and Impa ride off on the horse and Zelda gives Link the Ocarina. Then Link goes to the Temple and pulls the Master Sword. STOP. This is where "Link fails". Once Link pulls the Master Sword, he doesn't come back and Hyrule falls to Ganondorf.

Hero of Time Wins (child) - Link goes back to a kid after defeating Ganon as an adult, and warns the people of Hyrule about Ganondorf. STOP. Now this is where you can prove that the 3-way-split-theory is justifiable. If Link were sent back to the exact time he left, his warning would have been too little, too late, wouldn't it? Ganondorf was already in the middle of his takeover, and Zelda had already fled. Who would he warn? Link is REALLY sent back to his first meeting with Zelda. THIS is why there are 3 timelines. The Link that collected the 3 spiritual stones and got the Ocarina of Time failed to help Zelda stop Ganondorf, and is gone in one timeline already. This is another Link that succeeded.

Hero of Time Wins (present) - Adult Link defeats Ganon, and Adult Zelda sends him back to relive his childhood. Ganon comes back in this time and without any Link to stop him, they have to flood Hyrule. STOP. What Nintendo intended is that because the adult that defeated Ganon was plucked from 7 years ago, there was no Link known to the world. The child who grew up to be an adult while sleeping in the Temple of Time is gone."
How does he not come back after pulling the Master Sword? What, was he set up?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:10 PM
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How does he not come back after pulling the Master Sword? What, was he set up?
Perhaps he gets trapped in his little time warp? It makes no sense...

Edit: Or perhaps Ganondorf bribed Rauru to kill Link >:]
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

We need freaking page scans for their explanation of it!
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Ahahahaha this is sooo funny.

A three-way split huh? lol Nintendo, you trollin'.

Well I like the pun at least. Heh, Tri-split = Triforce, eh?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

[QUOTE=TurkeyMcBean;4450875] exactly this, zelda used the ocarina for him to travel to another time different (and obviously previous) that the one the MS leads to, that is of course too late to warn zelda
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Wait has the three way split been officially confirmed or something?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

Ok, I thought about this tri-split, and here are my best guesses for the splits:

Adult: This is the split and line when Link goes and kills Ganon. 'Nuff said.

Child: This is the split when Link goes back in time from the Adult Timeline.

Failure: I think this is when Link pulls the Master Sword, that in itself causes a split: the future and the past. Link never shows up in the past, which some how never connects with the futute, and when Zelda plays the OoT he goes back to a DIFFERENT past, therefore making Link jump across three splits. Crazy? I know...
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:18 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

lol third timeline Link failed,

cuz,

he became a stalfos or some ♥♥♥♥.

Explaining the Hero's Shade.

I don't know, just throwing that out there.

Question is, what games are on the third timeline? Wind Waker and/or the First 2 Zelda games seem like good candidates.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:19 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

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Wait has the three way split been officially confirmed or something?
Not according to this guy till scans are released and translated...
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:20 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

What I'm waiting for now is the explanation as to how FSA is after TP. A game that tells the origins of Ganon somehow taking place after Ganon dies is kind of baffling to me.
Also, clarification as to whether ALttP, OoX, and LA share a Link. I know that theory used to be popular but Zelda doesn't know Link. Is that a minor plot hole that the book is going to gloss over, or do only OoX and LA share a Link and ALttP Link is different?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:22 PM
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What I'm waiting for now is the explanation as to how FSA is after TP. A game that tells the origins of Ganon somehow taking place after Ganon dies is kind of baffling to me.
Also, clarification as to whether ALttP, OoX, and LA share a Link. I know that theory used to be popular but Zelda doesn't know Link. Is that a minor plot hole that the book is going to gloss over, or do only OoX and LA share a Link and ALttP Link is different?
Multiple Ganons, perhaps?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:23 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

With Demise that kind of makes sense, but Ganon is an unknown in FSA, like it's the first time he's shown up.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:23 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

I see only one reason to put FSA after TP - they're making an FSA sequel that is unrelated to ALttP or other games.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:23 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

I've read somewhere that characters from the Oracle games tend to introduce themselves to Link even after he already met them (like Impa). Which could explain Zelda introducing herself. Not sure if that is true, though.

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Multiple Ganons, perhaps?
I hope they won't do that. That would be really pointless and dumb.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:25 PM
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I've read somewhere that characters from the Oracle games tend to introduce themselves to Link even after he already met them (like Impa). Which could explain Zelda introducing herself. Not sure if that is true, though.
This is what I always believed. LttP/LA/OoX all the same Link seems to make sense to me.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:28 PM
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Re: Hyrule Historia will confirm the full timeline

I liked that idea as well, but I never really incorporated it into my timeline because of the Zelda not knowing Link problem. It does make sense now that I take another look at artwork. They all have the same shield.
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