ALttP a PREQUEL to OoT??? :O

I know this sounds crazy. And I'm not even sure if I believe it yet. So this is going to be an experimental theory for all of us to digest together. Basically speaking, the theory here is that Ganon and Ganondorf are not necessarily the same being. Now, that theory has come up before, but I'm going to take it a step further.
Basically what I'm proposing is: Ganon is an ancient being that has been around since before OoT, and was killed before OoT. But instead of just disappearing, as I'm sure "killing" such a powerful being wouldn't be so easy, he simply... Found another body to inhabit. For example, for Harry Potter fans, Lord Voldemort was considered to be dead after he was not able to kill Harry, however his "spirit" of sorts inhabited the body of Professor Quirrel. Perhaps a better example is from the game Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands in which Malik "killed" the beast Ratash. But because Ratash couldn't really just be "killed" so easily, he simply took Malik's body as his own and transformed Malik into a sort of "new Ratash". Where am I getting with this? It means that games where GANON is present, even games where GANON dies could take place before Ocarina of Time! Those games would be featuring the "ancient beast" Ganon, who then dies and takes the body of Ganondorf for the first time in OoT. With me so far?

Now I'm going to go even further (and get a little fan-fic) just for shts and giggles. Let's say ALttP is actually a prequel to OoT. How? The Ganon in this game isn't Ganondorf. (he wouldn't be born yet) it's the ancient beast Ganon. In this game, Ganon was "killed" by Link in the Sacred Realm (Dark World), and since he can't just be "killed" as stated before, his "spirit" let's say, lingered there, waiting for a body to take. Then, Ganondorf shows up in the Sacred Realm in OoT and now becomes the new body for Ganon, who he finally fully transforms into at the end. This can be somewhat suggested by the fact that in The Wind Waker, King Daphnes only refers to Ganondorf as Ganon instead of Ganondorf, because he had fully transformed into the beast by this time.
And if you believe FSS is a prequel to ALttP, then that would mean MC, FS, and FSA would all go at the beginning of the timeline :0
so what are we looking at now?

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LoZ-AoL?

I know, this is crazy and probably unlikely. I'm just spit-ballin ideas that popped in my head so don't take it too seriously.

Thoughts?

Since ALttP is the very first game the name "Ganondorf" appears in, and he is a thief in his backstory, ALttP must be referring to an earlier time in his life... to be specific, OoT.

Consider the state of Hylian blood in ALttP. It's rather thin, whereas it's strong in OoT. Just because of that, ALttP has to come later. You could make the argument that a lot about ALttP could be retconned now, but I doubt the thinning of blood would count as such.

I'm game for the theory that Ganon was a demon that previously existed and that Ganondorf was conceived to house it. but ALttP before OoT? That's just crazy talk.

It's heresy I tells ya. BURN THE WITCH!

Nintendo has said before that OoT is the backstory and prequel of ALttP. When ALttP was re-released for the GBA, they even changed some of the text to make it more of a sequel to OoT (changing the Wise Men to the Sages, etc).

They also stated that until SS, OoT was also the earliest story of the series.

Still though, was cool to see you reconstruct a completely unique and different timeline from the idea that ALttP was before OoT. :]

Originally Posted by EMaN21354

I know this sounds crazy. And I'm not even sure if I believe it yet. So this is going to be an experimental theory for all of us to digest together. Basically speaking, the theory here is that Ganon and Ganondorf are not necessarily the same being. Now, that theory has come up before, but I'm going to take it a step further.
Basically what I'm proposing is: Ganon is an ancient being that has been around since before OoT, and was killed before OoT. But instead of just disappearing, as I'm sure "killing" such a powerful being wouldn't be so easy, he simply... Found another body to inhabit. For example, for Harry Potter fans, Lord Voldemort was considered to be dead after he was not able to kill Harry, however his "spirit" of sorts inhabited the body of Professor Quirrel. Perhaps a better example is from the game Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands in which Malik "killed" the beast Ratash. But because Ratash couldn't really just be "killed" so easily, he simply took Malik's body as his own and transformed Malik into a sort of "new Ratash". Where am I getting with this? It means that games where GANON is present, even games where GANON dies could take place before Ocarina of Time! Those games would be featuring the "ancient beast" Ganon, who then dies and takes the body of Ganondorf for the first time in OoT. With me so far?

Now I'm going to go even further (and get a little fan-fic) just for shts and giggles. Let's say ALttP is actually a prequel to OoT. How? The Ganon in this game isn't Ganondorf. (he wouldn't be born yet) it's the ancient beast Ganon. In this game, Ganon was "killed" by Link in the Sacred Realm (Dark World), and since he can't just be "killed" as stated before, his "spirit" let's say, lingered there, waiting for a body to take. Then, Ganondorf shows up in the Sacred Realm in OoT and now becomes the new body for Ganon, who he finally fully transforms into at the end. This can be somewhat suggested by the fact that in The Wind Waker, King Daphnes only refers to Ganondorf as Ganon instead of Ganondorf, because he had fully transformed into the beast by this time.

Ganondorf can only become the bestial monstrosity known as Ganon when he wields an extremely powerful source of power such as the Triforce, Trident, or Twili shards.

The term Ganon refers to how Ganondorf can transform into that demonic like form through extrodinary powers. In ALttP's backstory it was stated that Ganondorf discovered the SR and claimed the power of the Triforce, transforming him into Ganon as well as the SR into the DW.

In FSA, Ganondorf became Ganon through the power of the Trident of Power and was noted for being the "ancient demon reborn" through its dark powers. Other titles such as LoZ, OoX had Ganon featured with the Triforce and or the Trident.

In OoT, Ganondorf had invaded the SR and obtained the ToP, as displayed in the game, Ganondorf shows off his ToP and transforms into Ganon shortly after.

I considered a similar theory during a time where I was trying to write a pre-OOT fan fiction, and it's completely possible that Ganon and Ganondorf are not the same. However, in ALttP, Ganon is actually said to have once been Ganondorf, so if your theory is correct and Ganon simply "inhabits" Ganondorf's body, this whole thing would have taken place before the events of the game. Perhaps Ganon was born from Ganondorf being almost killed near the end of OoT?

Originally Posted by Gloamgl0zer

I considered a similar theory during a time where I was trying to write a pre-OOT fan fiction, and it's completely possible that Ganon and Ganondorf are not the same. However, in ALttP, Ganon is actually said to have once been Ganondorf, so if your theory is correct and Ganon simply "inhabits" Ganondorf's body, this whole thing would have taken place before the events of the game. Perhaps Ganon was born from Ganondorf being almost killed near the end of OoT?

It would be easier to explain why both Ganondorfs become Ganons.

Also, burn the witch!

OoT was the first time anyone entered the Sacred Realm... so aLttP cannot be before it.

Hope they don't retcon that in SS.

In the end of AlttP Link finds the triforce, and wishes the master sword, which is golden and sharpened, to rest in the stone forever. This implies that ALttP is the last Zelda game in the timeline to use the master sword. Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by hazard

OoT was the first time anyone entered the Sacred Realm... so aLttP cannot be before it.

Hope they don't retcon that in SS.

Actually, I've heard the the Skyward Sword turns into the master sword. I'm hoping to see a direct connection to OoT. Maybe they will build the temple of time and place the sword in it's place? Just a guess.

Originally Posted by Archeon

This implies that ALttP is the last Zelda game in the timeline to use the master sword. Nuff said.

I suppose the official art from LoZ is meaningless than? (Look at the sword.)

Actually, I've heard the the Skyward Sword turns into the master sword. I'm hoping to see a direct connection to OoT. Maybe they will build the temple of time and place the sword in it's place? Just a guess.

Let's hope.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

I suppose the official art from LoZ is meaningless than? (Look at the sword.)

Are you saying the magical sword is the same as the Master Sword? Because the magical sword is an awful lot shorter than the Master Sword in-game.

That artwork is from the ALttP player's guide, isn't it? Because of that, I don't take it as completely relevant.

I think a better question to ask about that picture is why do the individual triforce pieces look like the complete triforce

Artist's rendition. Doesn't necessarilymean anything.

Burn the witch!