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Old 05-12-2011, 02:00 PM
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In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

I would think he would have died in the Wind Waker. He was frozen and buried with Hyrule, but he could have also died in the Twilight Princess because of how dramatic it was. What do you think?
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:11 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

[Ganon]dorf died in ALttP, WW, TP and OoX. It's all in both of them.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:32 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

Didn't he also die in LoZ?
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:36 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

He died in LoZ after Link used the Silver Arrows on him, but like all character death, in AoL - the direct sequel - it's said that if someone were to drop Link's blod onto Ganon's ashes, he'd rise again.

He presumably died in TP after the Triforce deserted him.
And in TWW - well, giant sword-in-the-head and he turned to stone counts as absolute death.

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[Ganon]dorf died in ALttP, WW, TP and OoX. It's all in both of them.
Kinda - his shell/constructed body was killed.
Ganon was never actually in the game. All Twinrova could do is bring back a shell because Zelda could not be sacrificed to bring Ganon himself back form the dead.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:30 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

I guess he never really finally dies, because it's always possible to revive him one way or another. That said the above discussion has hit all the games where Ganon/dorf dies. Whether you consider all appearances to be the same person is still a matter of debate.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:49 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

  • In LoZ Ganon who has ToP is killed by Link who has the ToW with Silver Arrows. The Master Sword is not involved.
  • In ALttP Ganon who has whole Triforce is killed by Link who does not have the Triforce with Silver Arrows after stunning him with the Golden Master Sword.
  • In OoT Ganon who has the ToP is unable to be killed by Link who has the ToC, Master Sword and Light Arrows.
  • In Wind Waker Ganon is killed by Link with the Master Sword after Zelda stuns him with the Light Arrows. No one has the Triforce when this happens.
  • In Twilight Princess Ganon who still has a wound from the Sage's Sword who has the ToP is killed by Link with the Master Sword who has the ToC after Zelda who has the ToW attacks him with Light Arrows.
  • In OoX a partially-resurrected Ganon is killed by Link and no one has the Triforce (the "Master Sword" is optional).
  • In FSA Ganon with the Trident of Power is sealed by Link and the shrine maidens with the Four Sword. No Triforce is involved.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:26 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

OoX can be harmed by the Wooden Sword or Noble Sword only if Link uses the Spin Attack. If Link uses the 'Master Sword' he can swin normally and do damage to Ganon.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:34 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

I think the games tell us that Ganon RESURRECTS (several times, I think), which means that he dies more than once. Again, I'm not sure, but I think that's what some games say.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:49 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

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Why is this so hard? The only game where Ganondorf dies, is Twilight Princess.*
Yeah, because Ganondorf being stabbed in the forehead and turning to stone doesn't count as dying. >.>

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* There is a difference between Ganondorf and Ganon.
Not really. Because they are used alternatively and indiscriminitely.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:59 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

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TWW calls him "Ganon" even when he's in his human form.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:15 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

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TWW calls him "Ganon" even when he's in his human form.


He returned as Ganon, that's probably why everyone calls him that.

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OoX can be harmed by the Wooden Sword or Noble Sword only if Link uses the Spin Attack. If Link uses the 'Master Sword' he can swin normally and do damage to Ganon.
That could just be due to the "Master Sword" being a stronger sword.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:09 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

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He returned as Ganon, that's probably why everyone calls him that.
Possibly, but that's probably not the case. Judging by names like Phantom Ganon and Ganon's Tower in OoT, the Ganon nickname existed before the monstrous transformation.

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That could just be due to the "Master Sword" being a stronger sword.
That's probably the case.

Also, here's an interesting (but irrelevant) fact: in ALttP the Master Sword couldn't even harm Ganon with a regular swing if it wasn't upgraded.

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That is an instance where he was defeated, he didn't die. If he was truly dead, he couldn't come back to life in the later games.
This is a fantasy series. Just because someone can be resurrected doesn't mean they're not dead. To date, Ganon has died in LoZ, ALttP, OoX, TWW, and TP.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:14 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

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Also, here's an interesting (but irrelevant) fact: in ALttP the Master Sword couldn't even harm Ganon with a regular swing if it wasn't upgraded.
That must have been rather anticlimatic for anyone that didn't upgrade it.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:59 PM
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That must have been rather anticlimatic for anyone that didn't upgrade it.
The spin attack still worked, so I guess one could argue that there was some drama in the Knight's "secret" technique being necessary to defeat Ganon, but yeah, the Master Sword struggled to live up to its hype.

It was even worse with the Silver Arrows, as players could have easily had no idea that they existed. Imagine fighting Ganon and having no way to harm him in the final phase, eventually being knocked off the edge and having Sahasrahla tell you "Oh yeah I... kind of forgot to tell you about the things you need to actually win. Sorry about that Link. Well... good luck finding them, because I have no idea where they are. Later dude."
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:14 AM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

He dies in every game he's in, but he never dies for real.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:27 AM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

Ganon never dies as long as he is in the possession of the ToP and has minions that serve absolute loyalty towards him, then Ganon will never die. He's been the main antagonist of the Zelda series for 25 years and Nintendo deciding to let him die for good would basically be removing one of the chosen bearers of the Triforce.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:35 AM
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He dies in every game he's in, but he never dies for real.
^This

I do not think Ganon(dorf) is actually still human but a demon, thus there is no death for him. He is banned/frozen/trapped/whatever...
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:37 AM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

Maybe he was never truly alive to begin with.

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Old 05-13-2011, 02:36 PM
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Re: In which game did Ganondorf finally die?

In Ocarina of Time at least, you can't kill Ganon because he has the Triforce of Power. All you can do is weaken him and then channel the sages' power into the sword to seal him. The Master Sword isn't some magical god weapon. As has been said, any sword can hurt Ganondorf because he is mortal, but only the Master Sword can be used to seal him away and combat his magic.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:45 PM
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Maybe he was never truly alive to begin with.

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xD Perhaps so. Ahem. As Oni Link 404 stated, it would be kind of dumb of Nintendo to get rid of Lord Ganon. Think of it like the Shredder from TMNT... HE isn't always the antagonist, but usually some punkass kid (or adult) comes in with a group of summoners and brings him back.. and the civilian population doesn't even know... (which is why most tv shows make no sense) Ganondorf appears as the main antagonist because he is the very embodiment of evil.

Kamina, It would be an invalid argument to call the King of Evil a demon. It is clearly put in practically every game (he appears in) that he is a "Powerful Sorcerer." Not once does it say "Ganondorf, the demonic being" think of the Devil... The devil isn't really a demon.. he controls the demons. Malladus is a demon, Bellum is a demon. But Lord Ganondorf is no demon, I can assure you. If anything he is a dark god. Zant worships him. the thing that always stumps me is they mention these "followers" of Ganondorf... but not once do you actually see some weird cult that marches up to you and says "Hey! Link. we are the Ganonites. So screw off!" That always bugged me... (other than Twinorva and the other meaningful bosses)
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