Skyloft and Hyrule connection?

I know there has been MUCH discussion about Skyward sword, But I want to talk about a couple of observations and theories. From looking at the trailer one thing I noticed is that you don't see any other character. Yes this can be because there focusing on Gameplay, but with every other Zelda Trailer you at least see another individual (Dis including Debbie) Another thought brought up is that the Scenery is Very Asian and Mayan, Very earthy. I came up with the Assumption that since This game is First in the Timeline as of now, that maybe we will see a more inhabitable Hyrule. Maybe with an Indigenous people. Each video show's that the Landscape looks very barren and that no life other than Evil lives there. Why is this? I'm not sure.
My personal Theory is that maybe the Individuals on Skyloft are more sophisticated in lames terms and have a sense of hierarchy. With link discovering the land below he the sky lofteans are notified of this, and some strange even happens with Sky loft combining with the Indigenous "Humans" of the world below. These Skylofteans being created by the occoo (misspelled) people and later changing there names to Hylians, Distinctive by there long ears. This could be a long stretch but it seems plausable.

I'm also hoping to see the Gerudo and the Sheikah since they pretty much HAVE to be in here since this is a bit of time before Oot. I hope this game exceeds expectations. It's what the consumer wants.

What do you guys think?

I've pretty much concluded myself that the Hylians originated from Skyloft, but I'm not so sure the Oocca created them.

Why couldn't they just be there? That's like trying to explain how the first human ever existed, which is, in this case, explained by the three golden goddesses.

I think that the Skyloftians (or whatever you'd like to call them) have long ears and were more, I guess you could say, 'technically' advanced because they were closer to the heavens, making them closer to the goddesses. I heard someone say that in one of the Zelda games that the Hylians have long ears because they used to be able to hear the whispers of the goddesses, but something happened to them overtime that caused them to lose that connection.

But I also think this would explain why everyone in the Hyrulean family has pointy ears. If (and I do mean if) Link travels down to Hyrule before the castle and really order of the land had been set up, then maybe the events in Skyward Sword will lead to the opening of said kingdom, and those that inhabit Skyloft could become the heirs to that throne. It makes a bit of sense to me, seeing as if those in Skyloft are more technically advanced, they would set up Hyrule and try to set up some type of order in the chaos.

Now if this is true......it is possible that Zelda will be a childhood friend of Link's, who then takes the role of Princess in a large kingdom.

I kind of confused myself typing all that. I'm not very good at getting my point across.

Originally Posted by Kairai

I've pretty much concluded myself that the Hylians originated from Skyloft, but I'm not so sure the Oocca created them.

Why couldn't they just be there? That's like trying to explain how the first human ever existed, which is, in this case, explained by the three golden goddesses.

I think that the Skyloftians (or whatever you'd like to call them) have long ears and were more, I guess you could say, 'technically' advanced because they were closer to the heavens, making them closer to the goddesses. I heard someone say that in one of the Zelda games that the Hylians have long ears because they used to be able to hear the whispers of the goddesses, but something happened to them overtime that caused them to lose that connection.

But I also think this would explain why everyone in the Hyrulean family has pointy ears. If (and I do mean if) Link travels down to Hyrule before the castle and really order of the land had been set up, then maybe the events in Skyward Sword will lead to the opening of said kingdom, and those that inhabit Skyloft could become the heirs to that throne. It makes a bit of sense to me, seeing as if those in Skyloft are more technically advanced, they would set up Hyrule and try to set up some type of order in the chaos.

Now if this is true......it is possible that Zelda will be a childhood friend of Link's, who then takes the role of Princess in a large kingdom.

I kind of confused myself typing all that. I'm not very good at getting my point across.

My impression thus far is that the Skyloftians are Hylians. If Hyrule, at this point in time, really is just a barren land of monsters and darkness, then I would imagine, after the land is cleansed, if something should happen to Skyloft (destroyed, invaded, or what-have-you), the residents of the land in the sky would travel to Hyrule to start over.

At this point, it could be argued that either:
-1) not all of the Skyloftians left for Hyrule, remained to attempt to make what they could of their remaining land, and evolved into the Oocca over time, accomodating their need to get from place to place (this would explain the humaoid features of the Oocca, as well as the idea in TP that the Oocca "created" the Hylians; sort of like skewed information, a mistranslation on the researchers' part), or...
-2) that the Oocca was some sort of god that the Skyloftians worshipped, making it entirely feasible that the Oocca did, in fact, create the Skyloftians and, in turn, the Hylians (it isn't so farfetched that such a strange creature could create something more grand. For those who have played through Jak and Daxter 1 - 3, you know the revelation of the identity of the Precursors is... well, startling, so I would argue something like this is a fairly acceptable idea).

About the goddesses creating humans, though, is it explocity stated that they created the Skyloftians/Hylians? From OoT, when the Great Deku Tree explains the creation of the world:

Farore... with her rich soul, produced all life forms who would uphold the law.

While this doesn't say they didn't create the human like species, it doesn't say they did, either. It could very well be that they created animals, plants, things like the Oocca, and the Oocca used their knowledge and power to create more.

I've mentioned a similar idea myself on another thread,: recall the dialogue from TP explaining the idea that the Oocca were closer to the Gods, even closer than the Hylians. This would make perfect sense if the Oocca were among the first creations of Farore, with the Oocca having created human-like life afterwards. This could work even if the Oocca were just evolved/adapted Skyloftians, since technically, they would still have been both physically closer and spiritually closer to the Gods than the Hylians (new Skyloftians) ever would have been.

Just ideas, of course. We proably won't kow anything for sure until SS is released, and even then, we probably won't know everything. >XP

I wonder if Skyloft falls from the sky and gently lands over the existing monster-infested land, with Skyloft becoming the Overworld of Hyrule, and the previous land becoming the Underworld, explaining why there are so many caverns and dungeons.

And the added pressure of the new land might cause the Death Mountain volcanic range to develop.

Just some thoughts.

Originally Posted by GrimmyV

I wonder if Skyloft falls from the sky and gently lands over the existing monster-infested land, with Skyloft becoming the Overworld of Hyrule, and the previous land becoming the Underworld, explaining why there are so many caverns and dungeons.

And the added pressure of the new land might cause the Death Mountain volcanic range to develop.

Just some thoughts.

Ooh, hadn't thought of that, that isn't a bad idea at all. I can't imagine what kind of power would be able to bring down the entire continent of Skyloft, though...

Originally Posted by Revid Cargian

Ooh, hadn't thought of that, that isn't a bad idea at all. I can't imagine what kind of power would be able to bring down the entire continent of Skyloft, though...

the Fabulous power of Debbie, of course.

Actually, the Oocca didn't create the Hylians. That was a major translation error on NoA's part.

In the original Japanese translation, the Oocca created Hyrule - not the Hylians.

@GrimmyV: Why of course, how could I forget Debbie? It must have been all that Fabulousness, it just overloaded my memory.

@Fuss-Budget: Well that just sounds even more challenging... Is there any other indication somewhere of their greater powers, not just from that researcher? (I really don't remember much of TP... =/)

Gerudo dont have to be in it. They're nomadic, so they could've gotten to Hyrule right after the war (when Link was born) for all we know.

So wait? Isnt skyloft coexistant with hyrule? Doesnt Link come down from skyloft too hyrule?

Oh, another thing to add - in the official Japanese translation - Impaz claims that the Oocca continued exchange cultural ideas and technology with Hyrule's people after "creating" it.

Originally Posted by SageOfGhosts

So wait? Isnt skyloft coexistant with hyrule? Doesnt Link come down from skyloft too hyrule?

In a sense, yes, but only remotely. It seems as though Skyloft is entirely unaware of Hyrule prior to Skyward Sword (from what I can tell, at least). Link appears to discover the land and a way to reach it. How or why we have yet to really see. The game, though, will apparently explain why these two lands are so far separated.