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What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

If you look at Kakariko Village in TP you will notice there are a couple areas of water, one of them is being fed by a waterfall from a misterious water source...

if you look at this map of kakariko village you will see what i'm talking about


Now look at a picture that shows where the land is higher (sorta like a topographical map)


The King Zora Grave Site is fed by waterfall, so where does this water come from? lets say there is a small fresh water spring here--


ok, so we figured out where the water comes from, now look what happens if you create a larger water soure --it over flows, creating a river

^^now if you look at the higher levels of land you will see the water has to follow the path to hyrule field, and into zoras river like i showed in the picture
now if you have a larger water source, theres a possibility it may find another path downhill. lets say the large water source finds a path to Kakariko Gorge then it would look like this


now if you block off the northern part of Kakariko from the southern part like this, and increase the flow/amount of water..


it would (possibly) cause the village to flood creating a lake/pond like this


So, is it just me, or does this look (slightly) like Zoras Domain/river from OoT?
It would make sence if it was zoras domain, because King Zora is buried there, it has a passage to lake hylia, and it is a "Sacred place" for the zoras..
so if this is Zoras Domain, what happend? well obviously the fresh water spring that provided all the water shrank causing the river to dry up, and forcing the zoras to migrate somewhere else.

--also i would like to make a note that i made all of these pics in about 5 minutes, so if they're crappy, i'm sorry--
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:11 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

Not that I'm complaining and trust me, I'm not. But this has led me to one thought:
Rivers flows north?
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:21 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

MIND=BLOWN

Also, (with some stretching) that would put Death Mountain in the same area as it is in OoT, but the castle seems to have moved a bit.

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Not that I'm complaining and trust me, I'm not. But this has led me to one thought:
Rivers flows north?
Common misconception.
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:24 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

My head hurts.
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:28 PM
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My head hurts.
Just look at the last picture.
Orange: Higher ground, like the giant cliffs around Kakariko Village.
Blue: Water and the paths is would flow on.
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:30 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

nice work! i certainly couldnt have done that!
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

So I guess this means you're also saying that this Kakariko Village is not OoT's Kakariko Village? Anyway, it seems plausible!
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So I guess this means you're also saying that this Kakariko Village is not OoT's Kakariko Village? Anyway, it seems plausible!
That is correct, I do not think they are the same.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:57 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

Its sorta implied that the Hidden Village is Kakariko from OoT. Sheikah village, sign saying Old Kakariko, etc. However, the graveyard in TPs Kakariko is nearly identical to the one in OoT. Explain that one, champ.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:21 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

Graveyards can look the same.
I agree with this! It would explain why kakariko is in a gorge- all of the water would of cut it's way over the years and when it dried up, kakariko would look like a desert... Nicely thought through
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

So, I just realized that TP is in the opposite timeline of tWW.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:33 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

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Its sorta implied that the Hidden Village is Kakariko from OoT. Sheikah village, sign saying Old Kakariko, etc. However, the graveyard in TPs Kakariko is nearly identical to the one in OoT. Explain that one, champ.
you say its nearly identical? well..
1. there's no shadow temple
2. there are around the same amout (if not less) graves. so what, no one died inbetween OoT and TP?
3. most graveyards are similer: you bury people in rows
4. there arnt any fences, or paths
5. there isnt a Royal Family gravesite
6. OoT graveyard is way bigger (wider) than the TP one
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:34 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

This has been discussed for ages.
I exposed this theory in a couple of threads, and I believe it's correct. But the Zora Domain = Kakariko theory was not very welcome back then...

Do you mind if I repost it here? It will add some features you didn't mention, to support your point

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[...] It's actually a visual trick regarding death mountain.
I posted this theory many times...well, let's see if it works here.

Point 1: In TP Kakariko village is build within what looks like a gorge. Even Death Mountain's "trail" looks like a dried river.

Point 2: Kakariko is a sacred place to the Zora people. It also holds the grave of a King Zora.

Point 3: Hot springs in Death Mountain and Kakariko.

Point 4: It's hard to note (well, not really), but in TP you actually never climb DM. Even at the top of the route, when you enter the Goron's place, you can still see the real DM in the distance (yes, that huge lava boulder seen also from Hyrule Field)

Point 5: The map doesn't help this point of view, as it only display walkable areas. but if you count Point 4 and relate the map to the one in OOT, you'll find out Death Mountain, the "proper one", should be standing more to the north-east portion of hyrule rather than east (where the OOT Zora fountain was), very close to where you can find the Hidden Village.

CONCLUSION:
Death Mountain and Kakariko in TP stand where Zora Fountain and Zora River stood in Ocarina of Time (it is suggested a dry-up of the zone, given by the enormous, permanently-erupting state of proper DM. Even the Gorons had to move, seemingly). The Zoras had to leave the area and find a new spring more to the north, but they still consider the dried up zone their holy ground. Oh, and yes, the Hidden Village is OOT's Kakariko, although it looks very different (western movies influence?! O___o)
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I usually get flamed for this theory. Most people prefer to think Death Mountain and Zora Domain retconned and swiched their places in TP, than accepting a "landscape change" (ironically, those very same people are the ones who claim that the Sacred Grove is Castle Town from OOT...).
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:44 PM
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

I think it looks close enough. But, does Nintendo really go this far to make in-map references to previous game? I know there's the "spirit temple" in TP, along with what might have once been Gerudo's fortress. But it could all be coincidence or something.

Anyway, this theory makes sense, BUT it defies the obvious map clue. In OoT, Kakariko is below Death Mountain, as it is in TP. It's one or the other. This one is more clever, and it makes just as much sense. But I don't know if Nintendo would go through that much for clues in a landscape. BUT, (I find myself using this word alot) I'm a newb, and don't know anyone wwho works at a gaming company, let alone Nintendo.
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Re: What Happens To Kakariko Village (TP) if you add water

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Not that I'm complaining and trust me, I'm not. But this has led me to one thought:
Rivers flows north?
Wait, what? How are people taught that rivers can't flow north?

That just defies logic (and gravity) in every way....

On-topic: The idea is very nice and well-thought-out, but I'm a firm believer that Kakariko Village = Kakariko Village.

I do, however, believe that the Kakariko Gorge was created from the old Zora's Domain (that river that runs in front of Kakariko Village in OoT) before something stopped it from being the "source of all water in Hyrule."
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Wait, what? How are people taught that rivers can't flow north?

That just defies logic (and gravity) in every way....
i think its because most/a lot of the rivers in the US flow south to the gulf of mexico

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On-topic: The idea is very nice and well-thought-out, but I'm a firm believer that Kakariko Village = Kakariko Village.

I do, however, believe that the Kakariko Gorge was created from the old Zora's Domain (that river that runs in front of Kakariko Village in OoT) before something stopped it from being the "source of all water in Hyrule."
a least we have something in common haha
i'm not here to convert you or force you to believe my thoery, i'm just here to explain it.
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meh. seems like quite a stretch to me. I really don't think Nintendo meant to do any of that.
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meh. seems like quite a stretch to me. I really don't think Nintendo meant to do any of that.
Then why they apparently swapped Death Mountain and Zora Domain? Just for the sake of doing it?
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Well Zora's Domain and Death Mountain had to be swapped for plot reasons. You know, so we could go counterclockwise but also go from forest to fire to water. It wouldn't have worked if they kept the layout the same.
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Well Zora's Domain and Death Mountain had to be swapped for plot reasons. You know, so we could go counterclockwise but also go from forest to fire to water. It wouldn't have worked if they kept the layout the same.
1. there's no rule tht says it has to go "forest, fire, water"
2. i'm sure they could have easily changed the plot slightly and it would have been fine
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