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But it does.
No it doesn't. It is only talking about the intent of the game when OoT was made. And that AoL comes after OoT, which we already know.

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1. He tells us that the towns are named after the sages from OoT. As far as we know, these sages (Ruto, Saria, etc.) were only awakened on the Adult timeline.
And were forgotten in WW, not to mention that Mido wasn't a sage.

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2. The events of OoT only happened on the AT. In order for the events of AoL to occur after the events of OoT, it would have to be placed on the AT.
The events of OoT is the whole game. That tells us nothing on weather it is on the AT or CT, for Link being sent to the past and staying there is also part of the events of OoT.
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LttP/LA-LoZ/AoL
Probable, but not confirmed. Don't get those terms mixed up.
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Probable, but not confirmed. Don't get those terms mixed up.
Confirmed if ALttP and LoZ come on the same timeline and no definitive proof is provided that retcons LoZ's original placement in relation to AlttP.
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Probable, but not confirmed. Don't get those terms mixed up.
Wasn't there that recent discovery of a quote in 1999 that Miyamoto gave that says that the order went: OoT - ALttP - LoZ - AoL
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And were forgotten in WW, not to mention that Mido wasn't a sage.
I thought we were talking about the intent of AoL when OoT was released. Not when WW was released.
I'm not denying that the intent could have changed since WW, I'm only pointing out that AoL was intended to be on the AT before WW was conceived.


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The events of OoT is the whole game. That tells us nothing on weather it is on the AT or CT, for Link being sent to the past and staying there is also part of the events of OoT
Link being sent back to his original time was like... one event of that game.
I'm sure that when Aonuma says "The events of Ocarina of Time" he is referring to the major chunks of plot that concern the defeat and sealing of Ganondorf - which happens on the AT.
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I'm only pointing out that AoL was intended to be on the AT before WW was conceived.
ZZ thinks this is where we are having problems. He believes that Nintendo didn't have a split timeline until they started working on WW.

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I'm sure that when Aonuma says "The events of Ocarina of Time" he is referring to the major chunks of plot that concern the defeat and sealing of Ganondorf - which happens on the AT.
Or he could be referring to everything from beginning to end. Too bad we can't ask him ourselves.

Just got to ask: Is it just ZZ or does that parenthesizes part seemed like something that the magazine just added? Because it doesn't sound like something that Aonuma would just say as a passing comment.
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Re: THE Zelda Timeline Theory

When things are put in square brackets, it usually means it's put in by the person who wrote the article.
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ZZ thinks this is where we are having problems. He believes that Nintendo didn't have a split timeline until they started working on WW.
IT seemed more like they didn't conceive a split until TP.
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Wasn't there that recent discovery of a quote in 1999 that Miyamoto gave that says that the order went: OoT - ALttP - LoZ - AoL
Yes but as of now ALttP is no longer a direct sequel to OoT. The reletionships between the games have changed and the order of the games might very well have changed at this point after important games such as FSA, WW and ST.

Also LA has never been confirmed to take place anywhere on the timeline, unless AST is canon (would go against Miyamoto's quote that LA could go anywhere).
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IT seemed more like they didn't conceive a split until TP.
Except TWW's Hylian intro suggests the exact opposite.
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Ok, thanks. ZZ wasn't sure if that discovered quote was valid or not, and from your response just now it seemed like it is, but like you said it is old intent.
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But old intent can't be changed without a reason FOR the change of intent.
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Except TWW's Hylian intro suggests the exact opposite.
Can I get Link-age to that video then?
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Can I get Link-age to that video then?
This Video?
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Re: THE Zelda Timeline Theory

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Can I get Link-age to that video then?

Also MM intro

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Majora's Mask Intro:
In the land of Hyrule, there
echoes a legend. A legend held
dearly by the Royal Family that
tells of a boy...

A boy who,
after battling evil and saving
Hyrule, crept away from the land
that had made him a legend...

Done with the battles he once
waged across time, he embarked
on a journey. A secret and
personal journey...

A journey in search of a
beloved and invaluable friend...

A friend with whom he parted
ways when he finally fulfilled his
heroic destiny and took his place
among legends..
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Re: THE Zelda Timeline Theory

I believe the split was created alongside MM, but they didn't do anything with it until TP. I still think we were meant to be under the impression that all games occurred on the AT until TP confirmed the split. Either that, or we were meant to be very confused. There's also the possibility that they didn't even give it that much thought, which is becoming a more and more popular theory about the developers.
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ZZ thinks this is where we are having problems. He believes that Nintendo didn't have a split timeline until they started working on WW.
They must of had the split in mind at the release of OoT. Otherwise, how could they have intended OoT to be ALttP's Imprisoning war??

On top of that, the next game they released was a sequel to OoT's child ending.

The concept of the split obviously existed before WW and even before MM.
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They must of had the split in mind at the release of OoT. Otherwise, how could they have intended OoT to be ALttP's Imprisoning war??
I'm sure the idea was there, but I'm not certain that they had any plans of including anything besides the very end of OoT on the CT until MM. The AT, at that time, was clearly what every game was meant to rest on.
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I'm sure the idea was there, but I'm not certain that they had any plans of including anything besides the very end of OoT on the CT until MM. The AT, at that time, was clearly what every game was meant to rest on.
Agreed.
They probably didn't intend for the AT to be flooded at the time, and so it made sense for the geography to be similar between the games and OoT.
My guess is that by the time WW was conceived, alot of stuff shifted over to the CT.
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Agreed.
They probably didn't intend for the AT to be flooded at the time, and so it made sense for the geography to be similar between the games and OoT.
My guess is that by the time WW was conceived, alot of stuff shifted over to the CT.
That, or erased from the timeline completely. At this time, I feel both are as likely as the other.
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