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Old 03-04-2010, 08:38 PM
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Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Sorry, maybe this has been covered before or something but searching has returned nothing.

So I came across this image:



and thought it raised a good point. Although I couldn't really see the moon there myself, I had never really thought about it - why was there a giant ball of fire and rock up there? It's not like it's a normal mountain formation... Could it actually be the moon? So I went through of the files on TP and looked for a model that had that giant ball. Well, it's definately big enough, and it looks like it had craters of some sort:



And then I checked the profile of it:



Any one else clearly see a nose and spots for the eyes and mouth? Or am I just crazy? Seriously, I know the games are in 2 seperate universes and all that, but even though the moon is facing the opposite direction than it is in Majora's Mask here, is it possible that it fell through some portal into the opposite land (Hyrule), effectively making it reversed? I mean. this is pretty convincing if you ask me... maybe it was even a twilight portal - Midna's helmet does look like Majora's Mask. I might be stretching it, but could Midna have been in Termina and got a hold of Majora's Mask, then created a portal to Hyrule to move the moon? Or is there something that makes more sense here, cause I'm defineatly seeing a connection.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:44 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I think you're definately reading too much into it....
If Nintendo wanted something like that they wouldn't have buried it in code. I also see nothing resembling a face. I think it's just a big burning rock on int mountain.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:50 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Oh, you don't have to go into the code or anything, it's visible in the game, I just wanted a better angle to confirm. But it couldn't just be a burning rock - even if it isn't the moon ,somethings crashed there. Giant, mountain sized boulders don't spontaneously appear at the top of mountains on fire and with a giant crater surrounding it.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

The moon from MM disappeared after Majora was defeated. Hence, it cannot be Death Mountain.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Death Mountain is an active volcano. It probably just erupted, explaining why it went from a serene mountaintop to a colossal ball of jagged stone and magma. Like Mattocks, I cannot see any sign of a face. Finally, in the ending of MM, the moon disintegrated and became a rainbow. There's no way it could have wound up in Hyrule.

I'm impressed that you checked TP's files, but this theory really doesn't have a foundation to stand on.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:06 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

OK then, thanks for the clarification. I actually haven't beat MM yet (got to the Snowhead temple last summer, game froze, corrupted save file, discouragement ensued), so I didn't know the mo0on disintegrated.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:09 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

The only evidence I see for this is that from a certain angle, you can barely make out features slightly similar to that of the moon. Needs more cowbell proof.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:18 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I think it looks a bit like MM's moon. I don't think it has any significance on what happened at the end of MM, or anything that happened in TP. Maybe Nintendo just wanted to throw a Jay and Silent Bob in there. A non cannon cameo for fans of the series.
I would have to look at it in the game rather than that itty bitty picture though, so I can properly decide what I think about the whole thing.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:47 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I can kind of see the face, except it looks like there's one on the other side to me.

It's interesting that you could dig that out with code. I imagine, like others, they were probably considering putting it in (somewhere more visible) as an easter egg. I don't think that the artificial moon from MM, that was destroyed, would appear in Hyrule, canonically.

Although, even if it was a non-canon easter egg, it may have been them continuing to hint at the connection between the Fused Shadows and Twili and Majora's Mask.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:59 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I think it was just an Easter Egg, and by no means the actual MM moon
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:45 AM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I doubt it.
Rocks and boulders tend to be roundish.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

I guess it looks like a giant meteor or somthing from those angles but what you see of it in the game it just looks like the side of the mountains colapsed into the cone and created a giant hole, i never got a giant boulder from it at all. The orange gash, while technicly a flat surface on the model, was probably potraying the orange glow of the magma coming from the centre of the crater, not just orange rock.
And besides, how the hell could the evil moon from another dimension crash into death mountain?
By the way rocks and boulders are never anywhere near round irl.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:36 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Well, I can see the resemblance between the moon and the rock on Death Mountain, but I doubt that it was put there as anything more than an easter egg. I can also kind of see a resemblence between the eye on the fused shadow and Majora's Mask. Perhaps they're parallels of each other, like most of the people in Hyrule had counterparts in Termina. They are both dark objects that grant their wearer immense power. They are both considered evil, although Majora's Mask can act on its own, whereas the Fused Shadows cannot.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:54 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

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By the way rocks and boulders are never anywhere near round irl.
*cough* They are in the Zelda universe though.

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Old 03-09-2010, 11:15 AM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

A/the moon would look MUCH bigger than that boulder.
I noticed that as well, but it always looked more as an asteroid to me...
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:36 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

If you use the Back in Time (BiTE) Glitch you can see Death Mountain close up.

This is only for Wii. (I"m not sure if you can do the BiTE on the Gamecube)

First, do the BiTE Glitch and exit the bridge. When you run into the flowers that call Epona, use it. Then, head to the dircetion where the mini shows. Eventurlly, you will run into Epona. Get on her and travel to the enterance of Kakrioke Village. Normally you would end up in Kakrioke Village, but you keep going. Soon, you will pass the game scenery and will be floating. (WARNING: DOn't dismount or you will fall and have to start over). Turn right and you will see Death Mountain. Ride all the way there and you will be able to see it as a round Mountain.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:08 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Not to mention that MM's moon is in Termina not hyrule.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:22 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

Does Termina even have it's own moon? I just supposed that it was the moon we all know and love that was coming down to destroy the land. Anyways, if the moon were to actually come down, life on earth would become close to non-existent, and that's being optimistic. I always wondered if Termina was actually in an alternate dimension/ reality where this could be possible.

How did that rock get up on top of Death Mountain, I wonder? Maybe a Biggoron put it up there? Wait, why aren't there any Biggorons in Twilight Princess? O_o

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Old 03-10-2010, 11:50 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

^Holy ****, what if it's biggoron rolled up in ball mode?!!!!11
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:00 PM
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Re: Fireball on Death Mountain (TP) is MM's moon?

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The moon from MM disappeared after Majora was defeated. Hence, it cannot be Death Mountain.
Actually it teleported away... The same way Midna teleports using black squares. Spooky.

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