Kokiri Blood

There are a couple things hinted at within OoT as well as WW indicating that the Kokiri are an extension of a plantlike race that likely spawn from Deku Trees (assuming there is more than one village of them! With no canon knowledge on that topic, I go no further), namely that they refer to the Great Deku Tree as their father and their evolutionary progression is to become even more treelike in appearance. That said, I'm curious as to how humanlike Kokiri are, whether they have blood, and what color it might be. It seems either brown or green would work for color.

I'm not sure I'm jumping the gun here on blood fact, though I have to take into account the rating Nintendo was going for. I'm pretty sure a "weakness" such as needing blood would have been dangled overtop Link's head even moreso by Mido. That, and imagine how long it would have taken them to figure out something wrong if Link had been found bleeding dangerously and they knew nothing of what blood was. Though rare probabilities, and non-canonical, I think they lend credence to the concept that they likely do have some sort of blood in them, though due to their roots to trees it is likely not the same color. One other observation- the Deku Babas which are also plants have blood particles when hit with a sword, further indicating the possibility of Kokiri having blood.

Why the fascination with blood? Eh, just a detail that was brought up in a thesis I read long ago that I subscribe to mentioning it.

I don't think evidence really suggests they evolved from plants. Rather, they are closely related to fairies, they are a form of spirit. That's why they changed from their human-like appearance in OoT to their tree-like appearance in WW. It wasn't evolution, but rather a decision to change their physical forms, something they could easily do with their magics.

I suppose, since they can be killed, they MIGHT have blood. I would think it depends on whether the traditional fairies have blood or not. If they don't, I think the Kokiri probably don't. If they had blood, I suppose it might be a sap-green color.

Oh, and I think the Deku Tree being their father was more figurative. Or they are fairies that spawn from Deku Trees...something like that. They certainly aren't Deku Scrubs or Deku Trees.

Hm, taking a look at the evolutionary pattern and the fact that Koroks do appear to come from Deku Trees, I'm not sure I support the spirit theory. But their connection to fairies is undeniable, something I didn't think to expound upon originally.

Of course, if they come from Deku Trees there is a huge question as to what happens TO children, or if they are simply unable to reproduce from there (and that's a bowl of worms I'm not getting into). For the record, I subscribe to a green blood theory myself.

I don't think they're properly corporeal. Back when it was fairly new, I always assumed it was a pop-up effect of a low draw distance. And I took Saria's appearance on the bridge to be "he didn't notice her". Only last year did I consciously realize that all the non-Kokiri NPCs don't have this pop-up effect.

Kokiri are spirits, and I believe they were referred to as such in the game but I can't remember where. So they'd not have blood at all.

I thought the Deku Tree made the Kokiri people?
Is that said or am I imagining it.

i made a thread similar to this one months ago, whetever th Kokiri are Living creatures or spirits is of debate, but disscussing the Kokiri's state of life or spirits is almost like a bottomless pit since we don't have more evidence than WW and OoT.

Originally Posted by Mandrag

I don't think they're properly corporeal. Back when it was fairly new, I always assumed it was a pop-up effect of a low draw distance. And I took Saria's appearance on the bridge to be "he didn't notice her". Only last year did I consciously realize that all the non-Kokiri NPCs don't have this pop-up effect.

Kokiri are spirits, and I believe they were referred to as such in the game but I can't remember where. So they'd not have blood at all.

Why would a spiritual creature evolve into a physical/spiritual creature?

Originally Posted by DoomRater

Why would a spiritual creature evolve into a physical/spiritual creature?

That's just it, it doesn't seem they ever evolved. They simply took on a different form, a change that would be almost, if not completely, instantaneous.

Koroks are as physical as creatures get. Again, why would a spiritual creature suddenly abandon such advantages?

Are the other fairies spiritual or physical?

I think we need more info on what happened to Navi. I've always subscribed to the concept they're as physical as any other race, only that Great Fairies have enough magic to alter their size.

Then again I'm not sure how that helps the question- if fairies are purely spiritual entities, and we know they have not changed this behavior anywhere, it doesn't shed any light on a creature that would seemingly go from spiritual to requiring physical travel. I'd almost propose Kokiri have natural or magical camouflage instead, possibly a fairy cloak.

Though they exhibit physical qualities, as far as I can tell, the fairies are spiritual. It's the same way with the Kokiri. They have limitations reminiscent of physical beings, yet they could seemingly change shape at will.

Originally Posted by Mandrag

I don't think they're properly corporeal. Back when it was fairly new, I always assumed it was a pop-up effect of a low draw distance. And I took Saria's appearance on the bridge to be "he didn't notice her". Only last year did I consciously realize that all the non-Kokiri NPCs don't have this pop-up effect.

Kokiri are spirits, and I believe they were referred to as such in the game but I can't remember where. So they'd not have blood at all.

Wow, I just noticed it also. In any case, I believe that the Kokiri's decided to take on a new form that would be better adapted for the now-flooded Hyrule. They didn't really become physical beings: they are still spirits.

Originally Posted by Racattack

Wow, I just noticed it also. In any case, I believe that the Kokiri's decided to take on a new form that would be better adapted for the now-flooded Hyrule. They didn't really become physical beings: they are still spirits.

Well, they may be spirits, but they are also physical since you can pick them up, and they can be eaten by a giant plant, haha.

They also seem to be unable to use all those advantages spiritual beings usually have- being able to escape danger by disappearing. Again, something doesn't seem right about it...

Originally Posted by DoomRater

They also seem to be unable to use all those advantages spiritual beings usually have- being able to escape danger by disappearing. Again, something doesn't seem right about it...

I think of them as spirits who took on a human form, and later a little tree stump form, kind of like how Calypso was bound in a human form in Pirates of the Caribbean. She is a goddess/spirit, but she is still in a physical body. Maybe the Kokiri stay in whatever form the Deku Tree gives them, or it is hard to change form so they rarely do it, idk

I would imagine all of them have to agree if they want to change their shape. and maybe the Deku Tree as well.

Koroks aren't spirits and they aren't Kokiri. They are what replaced the Kokiri. The old Deku Tree made Kokiri, the new one made Koroks. They're different.

Originally Posted by Mandrag

Koroks aren't spirits and they aren't Kokiri. They are what replaced the Kokiri. The old Deku Tree made Kokiri, the new one made Koroks. They're different.

Aonuma and the Deku Tree disagree. Aonuma stated in the interview where he stated that Zora->Rito that the Koroks are the form the Kokiri took when they left the forest. The Deku Tree said the Koroks once took human form.

Originally Posted by Mandrag

Koroks aren't spirits and they aren't Kokiri. They are what replaced the Kokiri. The old Deku Tree made Kokiri, the new one made Koroks. They're different.

They are spirits of the forest

DEKU TREE:
These are the Koroks--the spirits of
the forest.

Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks
took on human forms, but when they came
to live on the sea, they took these shapes

GAME OVER