New Hyrule CONFIRMED!

Originally Posted by ZeldaZealot

ZeldaZealot keeps hearing about this Swamp that is Blue, pray tell him what it be about?

Blue Swamp is Anouma name literally translated from Japanese. In this case, its used to mark the day the split was confirmed, because at that time they some guy literally translated every word of interview of aonuma, just to statisfy the doubters or something. At least, thats how I understood it was.

Ah! So that is was it is about, ZeldaZealot would tip his hat to Erimgard and Nerushi, if only ZeldaZealot had a hat to tip to you in the first place.

Again, aLttP predicted that the information regarding the Triforce would be lost:

Erimgard... I'd expect better from you to NOT use NoA. Especially in regards to LttP. SNES Japanese LttP: "Link, thanks to you, I was able to escape from the clutches of the demon. Thank you...

...the Triforce grants the wish of the one who touched it.
As long as that person is alive...

That, surely, is why it was placed in the sacred land, and its location passed down only among those chosen.

However, it looks as though that was interrupted somewhere...
Then, the one who again discovered the sacred land was the thief called Ganondrof.

But, thankfully, he didn't know how to return to the World of Light.
...oh yes, I remembered."

It doesn't say that the knowledge was lost.

It says it was only passed down to the chosen ones (royal family) and even that process was interrupted.

The Japanese concurs heavily with the english. All knowledge was lost.

I know I left theorising ages ago and all, but...

LOL @ everyone who doubted the possibility of there being a New Hyrule after TWW.

Translation: Legends Alliance Forums

How do we know for sure whether it's referring to the knowledge of the Sacred Land, or the Triforce itself being placed in the Sacred Land? As in how do we know whether the Triforce being in the Sacred Land was interupted, or just the knowledge of it?

If it was referring to the Triforce being in the SR in 1991 wouldn't that actually cause that quote to actually make sense?

Translation: Legends Alliance Forums

And lolZD

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Translation: Legends Alliance Forums

Pretty much. I see this as karma for them all being so smug about Blue Swamp.

I post this here. Why is there a soldier dressed like Link...?

Originally Posted by Table

How do we know for sure whether it's referring to the knowledge of the Sacred Land, or the Triforce itself being placed in the Sacred Land?

Because the very next line is about the Sacred Realm being rediscovered? Triforce and all.

The knowledge is clearly what's being referenced here.
If not, Trinen would have fixed it in the GBA version, along with all the other false-time indications, such as "three or four generations"

Originally Posted by Navi the Fairy

I post this here. Why is there a soldier dressed like Link...?

All the soldiers are according to the IGN article. Link's green garb has become the standard. Link puts on the green clothes not because he's a hero, but because all the guards where it and he's trying to blend in.

Because the very next line is about the Sacred Realm being rediscovered? Triforce and all.

Fair enough.

Although that quote still makes (and never did make) any sense.

I mean, hell, in 1991 it was just wierd. "Ganondorf became Ganon and was the first person to discover the SR and get sealed there. Then now in LttP Ganondorf the theif rediscovered the SR and got sealed there" Do you see what's just wierd about the quote?

And Bill Trinen hasn't fixed everything in the GBA version...

I really dislike using NoA versions as actual evidence.

Well. What can I say. New Hyrule. AWESOME.

Let it be known that I called the FSA - ST map comparisons ages ago back on ZI with the release of the EU ST Box art. XD

Still, there are so many questions....

-Demon King = Ganon? He's the only character to have gone by that title in the series so far, but you never know.
-If it is Ganon, how is he alive? Last I saw of him was a corpse with a sword stuck in its head being crushed by mega tonnes of water.
-Will the Triforce be referenced/mentioned at all in this game?

Its all just so exciting.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Because the very next line is about the Sacred Realm being rediscovered? Triforce and all.

The knowledge is clearly what's being referenced here.
If not, Trinen would have fixed it in the GBA version, along with all the other false-time indications, such as "three or four generations"

You do know that the location of the Sacred Realm is unknown in TP.

And the Master Sword's location as well as the continued existence of ancient Hylian artifacts, which all disappear on the adult timeline, all seem to connect TP to ALTTP. With or without FSA in between.

Originally Posted by Sentient

I know I left theorising ages ago and all, but...

LOL @ everyone who doubted the possibility of there being a New Hyrule after TWW.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Translation: Legends Alliance Forums

Guys, Legends Alliance always believed that a "New Hyrule" was highly unlikely unless Nintendo made a game that featured one. Spirit Tracks being in a "New Hyrule" isn't a shock, it's just a confirmation of one of two possibilities.

Originally Posted by Viral

Still, there are so many questions....

-Demon King = Ganon? He's the only character to have gone by that title in the series so far, but you never know.
-If it is Ganon, how is he alive? Last I saw of him was a corpse with a sword stuck in its head being crushed by mega tonnes of water.
-Will the Triforce be referenced/mentioned at all in this game?

Its all just so exciting.

I'll be doing a podcast piece on it

Also, I approve of your avatar, good sir!

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Link's green garb has become the standard. Link puts on the green clothes not because he's a hero, but because all the guards where it and he's trying to blend in.

But they're not wearing Link's green cap, so the hat tradition seems to wear off :O:O:O

INBF MINISH CAP PLACEMENT CONFIRMED!

Originally Posted by Hombre de Loco Motivo

I'll be doing a podcast piece on it

Also, I approve of your avatar, good sir!

The same to you my good man.

I'll be looking forward to the podcast.

The clothes tradition is interesting, it seems Nintendo are making a habit of just giving young boys green clothes and sending them on dangerous quests. It is safe to say that the tradition started by the Hero of Time is still continuing though, through the Hero of Winds on to the Hero of Tracks (or whatever this Link's hero name is). That is a good indication that Aonuma is forming some kind of continuity between the games.

Guys, Legends Alliance always believed that a "New Hyrule" was highly unlikely unless Nintendo made a game that featured one. Spirit Tracks being in a "New Hyrule" isn't a shock, it's just a confirmation of one of two possibilities.

And yet it has been LA who have, for the last few years, shot down any attempt to explain that a new Hyrule is possible. Every single time someone mentions a new Hyrule, they have called it fanfic and said that it completely disregards the ending of TWW. They believed that Nintendo wouldn't make a game with a new Hyrule. The fact that a new Hyrule is now confirmed is not only good for people who believed in it, but it shows that there various ways of looking at the context of the games. They were all so certain that TWW was saying "that is it, no more Hyrule", yet that was incorrect.

Originally Posted by Hombre de Loco Motivo

But they're not wearing Link's green cap, so the hat tradition seems to wear off :O:O:O

INBF MINISH CAP PLACEMENT CONFIRMED!

They don't seem to care about Link's hat in the segment where you have to sneak past the guards though, so the guards not having the hat doesn't seem to really matter at the moment.

Originally Posted by Viral

And yet it has been LA who have, for the last few years, shot down any attempt to explain that a new Hyrule is possible. Every single time someone mentions a new Hyrule, they have called it fanfic and said that it completely disregards the ending of TWW.

That's mainly because, before ST, the evidence for a "New Hyrule" was admittedly feeble and easily countered, especially since TWW ended with Hyrule dead and forgotten while, in contrast, TP ended with Hyrule alive and with a hope that it'd return to its former glory.

LA sincerely doubted a "New Hyrule", but they never thought that a "New Hyrule" was completely impossible. Also, they pretty much all believe that OoT was the IW back in '98 and was later retconned, so a new game eventually changing the timeline isn't an unfamiliar concept.

Originally Posted by Viral

The fact that a new Hyrule is now confirmed is not only good for people who believed in it, but it shows that there various ways of looking at the context of the games.

Keep in mind that Nintendo doesn't really plan ahead with this stuff. As of now, this doesn't "show various ways of looking at context" so much as Nintendo made a decision that just so happened to match up with a fan timeline.

So a seemlingly Ganon stuck at the bottom of the sea somehow revives himself and turns himself into a train? That makes as much sense as the KoH possessing a boat.

Originally Posted by eiyuu_004

hahaha, yeah, I hoped there wouldn't be a new Hyrule... I think it ruins a lot that was set up in the ending of Wind Waker... Zelda is so messed up! Hahaha. I don't really like the idea of TWO crazy awesome magical lands where the power of the gods dwells... its a little much. The same way 2 powerful evil-destroying swords is too much. Tell me they don't come up with a triforce equivalent... I'll live with it though! I love ALL Zelda games! And I'm extremely excited about Spirit Tracks!!!! Especially the story behind it all!!

Isnt it obvious that eventually Link and Zelda would find land, and that they would name it Hyrule?

Originally Posted by Young Old Man

So Gannon somehow revives himself and turns himself into a train? That makes as much sense as the KoH possessing a boat.

GANNON-BANNED

Originally Posted by Young Old Man

Isnt it obvious that eventually Link and Zelda would find land, and that they would name it Hyrule?

You'd think, but a lot of people had this bizzare notion that King Hyrule meant Tetra couldn't name the new land Hyrule when he said "It won't be Hyrule. It will be YOUR land."