What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

In WW, we see a lot of Ganondorf, but no ganon. In the vast majority of Zelda games, we see no Ganondorf, only Ganon, but in every other game with Ganondorf, TP OoT, and FSA, we also see Ganon. Is it possible that Ganondorf somehow seperated himself from ganon to exist the sacred realm?

If i do recall, the ganondorf states that he "bypassed the seal" implying that at least part of him is still there. Could this mean that Alttp still uses OoT as the sealing war? This would simultaneously explain the birth of the trident.

The timeline would look something like this
/ww-ph-ST-MC?-Alttp-LA-FS/FSA-AolBS-Loz/Aol-OoX
OoT
\mm-tp
It also solves the potential triforce problem. In OoT ganondorf only has the ToP, but after WW, the Triforce could have flew away back to the SR.

FSA ganon is a reincarnation from the trident, since it now held ganon's spirit
Loz Ganon- breaks free from the FS

what do you think?

i think he just decided to not use his ganon form thinking he was powerful enough to beat a little kid... well guess what he was wrong

Ganondorf went insane after the King of Hyrule touched the Triforce, therefore locking the power of the Triforce from his body. He's still probably eroding away at the bottom of the sea. If the Master Sword is pulled out of his forehead, his spirit will return to Hyrule, causing chaos.

Perhaps this could be the premise of the new Zelda game?

He never actually had a chance to use the Triforce of Power to turn into Ganon.

Out of the whole series, Ganondorf only uses the Triforce of Power to turn into Ganon when he is about to die. In WW, he is only about to die after he extracts the Triforce of Power from himself.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

He never actually had a chance to use the Triforce of Power to turn into Ganon.

Out of the whole series, Ganondorf only uses the Triforce of Power to turn into Ganon when he is about to die. In WW, he is only about to die after he extracts the Triforce of Power from himself.

But you fight Ganon first in TP.

I always thought of Ganon as a separate entity that was birthed from Ganon's evil and the triforce's magic. This entity first became a physical being when Ganondorf is pretty much dead in OOT's ending. I always interpreted the scene, what with his glowing yellow eyes and strained gasps, as Ganondorf making a metaphorical deal with the devil so that he receives the power to destory this kid. By this i mean GDorf had been fighting to maintain control but once he lost he just allowed Ganon to take him over completly.

calc: Different Ganon.

Originally Posted by calc84maniac

But you fight Ganon first in TP.

And you just fought him in Puppet Zelda. You kick him out, he's hurt really bad, and he turns into Ganon. You kick Ganon's butt and he survives through his spirit form because he's in the Twilight Realm. Midna tries to use the Fused Shadows to finish him off, but Ganon's spirit probably used that energy to jump start himself again. He comes back as Ganondorf riding on a horse that came out of nowhere.

Beemnorv: I know it's off topic but you're right. Where the heck did that horse come from?

When I first saw that, I was like "??????"

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

calc: Different Ganon.

Do you mean to say that the beast Ganon in TP is just Ganondorf's Twilight Realm form, just like how Link became a wolf? This would separate the normal "sentient" Ganon of ALttP and LoZ from the beast Ganon of TP.

In Japanese Ganon is not known as Daimaou or Yami no maou(as he was previously called in other games). He is instead simply referred to as Dark Beast. This is what lead me to belief that he is Ganondorf's wolf Link equivalent.

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

This is what lead me to belief that he is Ganondorf's wolf Link equivalent.

I believe this is what was intended in TP as that is what I thought when I first played TP.

So the Triforce might not have anything to do with his TP transformation. Maybe the Triforce of Power was helping him maintain his Gerudo form until he was weakened and exposed to the Twilight Realm.

Another thought: If Link got the Triforce of Power, do you think he would become some sort of sentient wolf?

Yes also note how he materializes from all those particles that the bosses break up into. This shows his connection to the Twilight. Although after he dies he catches fire like the OOT/MM bosses so he's kind of unusual. ALthough like I said Ganon technically never appeared in TP which is why he was so different from his usual form(not bipedal, just a raging beast).

Do you mean if he had both the TOP and TOC or just the TOP?

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

Yes also note how he materializes from all those particles that the bosses break up into. This shows his connection to the Twilight. Although after he dies he catches fire like the OOT/MM bosses so he's kind of unusual. ALthough like I said Ganon technically never appeared in TP which is why he was so different from his usual form(not bipedal, just a raging beast).

He doesn't really catch fire though. That's just his spirit form in the Twilight Realm. It's like what the citizens of Hyrule became.

Do you mean if he had both the TOP and TOC or just the TOP?

I mean if he were to just use the Triforce of Power like Ganondorf does.

I'm just saying that the Twilight Realm seems to "flip you inside out" by turning you into your spirit. The Triforce seems to mix your body with your spirit. If you have a Triforce piece in the Twilight Realm, then the Twilight Realm turns you into your spirit and the Triforce gives your spirit a body.

Tell me what's confusing and I'll try to clarify.

Beemnorv: Oni seems to have logged off but i'll continue in his steed. Anyway that is an interesting theory you have there about the Twilight Realm.

Thank you. Were you even able to understand that properly?

@OP:

It sounds like a good theory at first, but any seal that would prevent Ganondorf from becoming Ganon
is broken by the time of WW's final battle

cukeman: Like Oni said different Ganon.

Beemnorv: Okay so the TR basically strips you of your body and turns you into a spirit. But you think that if you have a triforce piece it creates a new body for you or something?

Weather Ganon bypassed the seal in TWW or not is up for debate. We know he escaped it somehow. He could have broken it.

Also no the timeline you have is....well...messed up. FSA comes before ALttP for obvios reasons.

Originally Posted by Demon Majora

Beemnorv: Okay so the TR basically strips you of your body and turns you into a spirit. But you think that if you have a triforce piece it creates a new body for you or something?

Twilight Realm: Your spirit takes up the majority of your being and you "flip inside out".

Triforce: Uses your spirit for power and in times of need, gives your spirit a sort of physical form that merges with your body to use it to its full advantage.

Triforce in Twilight Realm: Both things happen. The Twilight Realm "flips you inside out", turning you into your spirit and the Triforce gives that spirit a physical form. Because this physical form of your spirit has no body to merge with, it becomes your body.

This explains why Ganondorf's beast form in the Twilight Realm is less humanoid than his beast form in the Light/Dark World. In the Light/Dark World, when he is in need of it, his spirit is given a physical form and merges with his Gerudo Form, explaining why he is still wearing armour and stands on two legs.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

Twilight Realm: Your spirit takes up the majority of your being and you "flip inside out".

Triforce: Uses your spirit for power and in times of need, gives your spirit a sort of physical form that merges with your body to use it to its full advantage.

Triforce in Twilight Realm: Both things happen. The Twilight Realm "flips you inside out", turning you into your spirit and the Triforce gives that spirit a physical form. Because this physical form of your spirit has no body to merge with, it becomes your body.

This explains why Ganondorf's beast form in the Twilight Realm is less humanoid than his beast form in the Light/Dark World. In the Light/Dark World, when he is in need of it, his spirit is given a physical form and merges with his Gerudo Form, explaining why he is still wearing armour and stands on two legs.

I definately agree with this. When I first saw beast Ganon in TP, my first thought was "What the hell? Thats not Ganon!" because he acted so differently than in other games where he stood up on two legs. So yeah, Ganondorf's beast form in TP is simply the equivalent of Link's wolf form in the Twilight Realm, and not the beast form made by simply using the Triforce of Power.