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Old 11-01-2009, 10:17 PM
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I definately agree with this. When I first saw beast Ganon in TP, my first thought was "What the hell? Thats not Ganon!" because he acted so differently than in other games where he stood up on two legs. So yeah, Ganondorf's beast form in TP is simply the equivalent of Link's wolf form in the Twilight Realm, and not the beast form made by simply using the Triforce of Power.
well i don't you can say its JUST the twilight realm, however, i do think you can say that the twilight realm changed Ganon to be increasingly Beast-Like.

And i realize that the absence of the ToP could be an explaination, except then why is he ganon in AoL, or OoZ? Similarily i specifically remember something being said of ganondorf BYPASSING the seal, implying the seal was still in tact, and by leaving part of himself there, a fairly common thing with villians (wasn't agahnim ganon's Super Ego or something?) , COUGH Ganon COUGH, it not only explains his lack of appearence in WW but keeps OoT as the SW, The Sages Seal is still there, moving of the triforce or the master sword doesn't stop that.

As for the Palace of the FS in Alttp for GBA, thats easily explained as nothing more than a cameo, a promotional thing for the new games FS/FSA nd to boost sales of the old game. "Look its the same version of AlttP, but with a NEW OPTIONAL DUNGEON" zelda fans scream, "O MY GAWDZ NEW DUNGEON I MUST GITZ DIS GAME!!!!!" sales go up. Plus this makes all of the SNES manual info mostly valid.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:31 PM
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I just figured TP went with a more realistic pig-form for Ganon. It reminded me of Princess Mononoke actually. Well... the whole game kind of did. Wolf against boar, haha. The idea of boar Ganon being the equivalent to wolf Link is cool though. So does this mean that in the event that Link ever transformed into something like Ganon does a lot, he would become a wolf? I never saw beast Ganon as a separate entity but just the form Ganon(dorf)'s soul takes. Not necessarily as a literal form, but like the whole "ugly on the inside" thing, if you know what I mean, I don't know what to call the concept... I guess I mean that by no means did I ever take "Ganondorf's true form" to mean he was actually a giant pig-dragon-monster...
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:00 PM
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he was actually a giant pig-dragon-monster...
You're wrong. Ganon is actually a man-bear-pig.

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Old 11-02-2009, 02:24 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

From that picture it looks like he could have stood on his hind legs if he wanted to. Except he didn't, making charging attacks on all fours, probably to make up for his lack of weapons in that form. Also, I saw it as more of a challenge towards Link's beast form, urging the hero to transform to do battle against Ganondorf's own beast form, as a contest of strength.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

There IS Ganon in Wind Waker.

Remember the gigantic weird puppet thing?

Yeah, you do. Up to the point of WW Ganondorf exists no longer. Ganon, however, will appear later in the timeline.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:29 PM
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Ganondorf is Ganon. In fact, I think the KoRL calls him Ganon at one point in the game. Also, his tower is called Ganon's Tower, not Ganondorf's Tower. So nothing happened to Ganon in WW. He's there.

And yes, the Puppet Ganon is a tribute to his pig form.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

I think eventually Ganondorf gives up his human form, to his sick man-bear-pig Ganon form. Hence Ganon appearing later in the games.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:42 PM
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Actually, it doesn't seem like the permanent pig form is by choice later on. In FSA the Trident transforms him. In OoX, he's resurrected in that form. In LttP, the effects of the Dark World make him a piggy (therefore in the Light World he would have his human form).
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:45 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

Well I think at Post-WW Ganondorf is no longer what he use to be from Ocarina of Time.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:48 PM
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Well I think at Post-WW Ganondorf is no longer what he use to be from Ocarina of Time.
That's because Post-WW Ganondorf, for all we know, is dead as a doornail.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

Yep.

Dead, dead, dead. I recall he was stuck in the Sacred Realm and freed--

Oh nope, that's the Child Timeline.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:52 PM
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Actually, it doesn't seem like the permanent pig form is by choice later on. In FSA the Trident transforms him. In OoX, he's resurrected in that form. In LttP, the effects of the Dark World make him a piggy (therefore in the Light World he would have his human form).
I think FSA - ALttP - OoX
(ALttP Ganon's form is due to when he got the Trident in FSA)
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:53 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

Either that or FS/FSA--ALttP--LA.

Both sound probable.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:06 PM
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Re: What ever happened to Ganon in WW?

If the whole TR combined with the ToP and ToC make some sort of spirit body thingy is true. Then what would Zelda's Spirit body that the ToW would make? Has she ever been referred to as an animal?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:25 PM
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Weather: Zelda seemed to retain her real body in the TR. Although that could simply be seen as her willingly letting the twilight cover hyrule so Zant gave her some form of protection.
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Either that or FS/FSA--ALttP--LA.

Both sound probable.
That's pretty much what he said. His timeline didn't have LA in it because most of us smarty pants peoples know it comes after ALttP, therefore no mention needs to be made of it. What you failed to show us is where you think OoX goes, Zeldaduderox.

Look, for me, as long as OoX comes on the CT sometime after Ganny has died, I would be happy. And...I do like its placement after ALttP. Ganon is killed, Hyrule Castle has the full Triforce, and no mention is made of the Master Sword, which should be sleeping soundly in the Lost Woods Forever.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:55 PM
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And yes, the Puppet Ganon is a tribute to his pig form.
Puppet Ganon is a TRIBUTE, but he's not Ganon.

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Ganondorf is Ganon. In fact, I think the KoRL calls him Ganon at one point in the game. Also, his tower is called Ganon's Tower, not Ganondorf's Tower. So nothing happened to Ganon in WW. He's there.
I agree ganondorf IS ganon, but thats not what I'm arguing, im just seperating them for simplicities sake . I'm just saying he physically separated himself, there is still that whole BYPASSING of the seal. It was never broken. Look at Harry Potter Voldemorte divides his soul, but it doesn't make any piece LESS voldamorte.
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Your face is less Voldemort.
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Actually, it doesn't seem like the permanent pig form is by choice later on. In FSA the Trident transforms him. In OoX, he's resurrected in that form. In LttP, the effects of the Dark World make him a piggy (therefore in the Light World he would have his human form).
Agahnim?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:17 PM
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Your face is less Voldemorte.
Actually i disagree
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