MC,FS FSA /WW connection

lets pretend MC is on the adult time line after PH or ST. it would explain a lot.
Things against this theory

Force gems = light force, which are seen in PH so it can't count
Shield
Hat

Response
force gems- PH is in an alternate world of sorts so the fact that some force gems are their doesn't matter
shield- they were lazy when they made the game, the MC is basically WW graphics 2D-ified
Hat- New Hyrule- New standards, so rebirth of the hat.

Advantages
Connection with the Wind
-the WINDwaker,
-the WINDtribe,
-Vaati is a Wind mage
-the WIND sage/temple
- Those WIND shrines used for teleportation
no other game shows a relationship with the wind much at all

Explains HOM backstory
-master sword is gone
-new land, new leadership, obviously a power struggle.
- Picorri Feastival ( not that they didn't exist before, just weren't important, still put money in pots etc.) The Piccori identify themselves post flood.

Greatly simplifies the timeline.
-having MC first creates all of this messiness with Vaati especially with FSA, when ganon is there too

Fan-ficy ideas to support this

Spirit tracks will involve the return of ganon from WW (not the MS though) and explain the trident) which sets up for FS

ZWii could be on the adult timeline, accounting for the creation of the MS there ( and not have to do with ganon, cuz he's in the FS) and the SW


Fanficy timely -
/WW-PH-ST-MC-FS-FSA-ZW-Alttp/OoZ/LA
OoT
\MM-TP
Still unaccounted for- Loz Aol

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

Fanficy timely -
/WW-PH-ST-MC-FS-FSA-ZW-Alttp
OoT
\MM-TP
Still unaccounted for- Loz Aol

If you remove ZWii since we know nothing about it, put LoZ/AoL-OoX between ST and TMC, and add LA after ALttP, you get the formerly most popular timeline on this site.

I approve!

but that would ruin the possible trident connection lol, (hence fanficy timely)
but normally id definitely agree
and ZW is there because it supposedly has to do with the master sword (and the fairy queen i guess).

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

but that would ruin the possible trident connection lol, (hence fanficy timely)
but normally id definitely agree

I don't see how that ruins anything that has to due with the Trident of Power

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

and ZW is there because it supposedly has to do with the master sword (and the fairy queen i guess).

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

lets pretend MC is on the adult time line after PH or ST. it would explain a lot.

It doesn't explain anything no matter where it is.

Things against this theory

Force gems = light force, which are seen in PH so it can't count
Shield
Hat

Force Gems, Light Force, and Life Force are almost confirmed to be the same thing.

Response
force gems- PH is in an alternate world of sorts so the fact that some force gems are their doesn't matter
shield- they were lazy when they made the game, the MC is basically WW graphics 2D-ified
Hat- New Hyrule- New standards, so rebirth of the hat.

We don't know what kind of world PH takes place in. Also, the hat thing you said doesn't make sense considering that Link has the hat in WW/PH and ST, but suddenly does not have it in TMC. I'll just overlook it though because I don't feel like arguing about hats.

Advantages
Connection with the Wind
-the WINDwaker,
-the WINDtribe,
-Vaati is a Wind mage
-the WIND sage/temple
- Those WIND shrines used for teleportation
no other game shows a relationship with the wind much at all

OoT was originally going to have a Wind Temple.
TP has the Gale Boomerang.
LoZ has the teleportation tornado.

Explains HOM backstory
-master sword is gone

It was "gone" before it was created too.

-new land, new leadership, obviously a power struggle.

Or it was a new leadership and the first power struggle of the old land.

- Picorri Feastival ( not that they didn't exist before, just weren't important, still put money in pots etc.) The Piccori identify themselves post flood.

While you can place TMC after WW, the Hero of Men story makes better sense before OoT.

Greatly simplifies the timeline.
-having MC first creates all of this messiness with Vaati especially with FSA, when ganon is there too

It doesn't. Ganon in FSA does not affect the placement of TMC at all.

Fan-ficy ideas to support this

Spirit tracks will involve the return of ganon from WW (not the MS though) and explain the trident) which sets up for FS

I want this too (maybe not the return of Ganon though).

ZWii could be on the adult timeline, accounting for the creation of the MS there ( and not have to do with ganon, cuz he's in the FS) and the SW

Or Zelda Wii could be pre-split, accounting for the creation of the Master Sword there and not having anything to do with Ganon because he wasn't born yet.

Fanficy timely -
/WW-PH-ST-MC-FS-FSA-ZW-Alttp
OoT
\MM-TP
Still unaccounted for- Loz Aol

Choose this one, it's better (I made it myself ):

AT: - WW/PH - TMC - LoZ/AoL - OoX - FS/FSA - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM - TP

well because ganon would have to posses the trident, in order for his spirit to go into it.
so assuming he magically gets out of the water-grave. especially since tridents are associated with water. The trident could even be a corrupted master sword?!

Or you just have ganondorf be resurected after AoL by some uber-bad*** villain, and then have him give ganon the trident- i guess your right it could work

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

(I made it myself)

That better be a joke.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

well because ganon would have to posses the trident, in order for his spirit to go into it.
so assuming he magically gets out of the water-grave. especially since tridents are associated with water. The trident could even be a corrupted master sword?!

Or you just have ganondorf be resurected after AoL by some uber-bad*** villain, and then have him give ganon the trident- i guess your right it could work

1. There is no proof his soul is in the Trident and most people on this site gave up on that idea a long time ago.

2. He has the Trident in the BS remake of LoZ.

Originally Posted by Triforce of the Gods

That better be a joke.

Actually, it's not. I was thinking up a new timeline yesterday and when I finished, realized that it was similar to this site's "popular timeline".

I have a whole explanation for it and its really simple. I thought of how the games fixed inconsistencies as they were released:

LoZ/AoL

ALttP/LA - LoZ/AoL

OoT - LoZ/AoL - ALttP/LA

AT: - LoZ/AoL - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM

AT: - LoZ/AoL - OoX - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM

AT: - WW - LoZ/AoL - OoX - ALttP/LA
FS - OoT
CT: MM

AT: - WW - LoZ/AoL - OoX - FS/FSA - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM

AT: - WW - TMC - LoZ/AoL - OoX - FS/FSA - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM

AT: - WW/PH - TMC - LoZ/AoL - OoX - FS/FSA - ALttP/LA
OoT
CT: MM - TP

Major inconsistency: Ganon coming back after WW.
Slight/Minor inconsistency: Triforce going back to Hyrule after WW.

With only two inconsistencies that can easily be fixed with one game, this is a pretty good timeline.

Oh, whoops. Missed that you have TMC in a different spot.

I have to admit though, that's one of the best timelines out there.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

no other game shows a relationship with the wind much at all

I have to disagree. Just about every Zelda game has wind references.

What exactly makes people think that every game has to flow into the next, rather than the series as a whole flowing well? TP-FSS-LttP flows holistically better than WW-FSS-LttP, even though WW-tMC is perhaps better than tMC-OoT. This brings me to my next point, that LttP is and always will be more important than tMC. To build a good timeline consider only the following games.

LoZ
LttP
OoT
WW
FSA
TP

^ You forgot AoL.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

^ You forgot AoL.

implied by LoZ. It's only relevant for OoX and maybe PH.

What I want to know is why people think ST will not have the Master Sword. We don't know that much about it yet, so we can't make that kind of assumption. Perhaps in ST Ganon farts and the Master Sword magically comes out for Link to retrieve it. Taa-daa!

Originally Posted by Slagr

implied by LoZ. It's only relevant for OoX and maybe PH.

I meant the Sleeping Zelda story. That creates some confusion in timelines.

Originally Posted by Sparty

What I want to know is why people think ST will not have the Master Sword. We don't know that much about it yet, so we can't make that kind of assumption. Perhaps in ST Ganon farts and the Master Sword magically comes out for Link to retrieve it. Taa-daa!

There's more in-game evidence to suggest that Ganon burps. You, Sparty, have no logic in your theory.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

There's more in-game evidence to suggest that Ganon burps. You, Sparty, have no logic in your theory.

Fine, he burps out the sword if anything.

All I'm saying is we have yet to see what Link's ultimate sword will be in this upcoming DS Zelda title. Perhaps the wooden sword of LoZ will make a reappearance, as well as the old man that hands it to him.

Originally Posted by Slagr

What exactly makes people think that every game has to flow into the next, rather than the series as a whole flowing well? TP-FSS-LttP flows holistically better than WW-FSS-LttP, even though WW-tMC is perhaps better than tMC-OoT. This brings me to my next point, that LttP is and always will be more important than tMC. To build a good timeline consider only the following games.

LoZ
LttP
OoT
WW
FSA
TP

Please explain why we must disregard: MC(yet we do regard FSA) and OOX. LA, PH, MM, and FS aren't really argued about because they either A) Have a concrete placement or B) Don't do much for or against the timeline. However if one is to have a post-WW timeline of any kind then I think it would be very hard to accomplish this without the placement of FSA. OOX might not affect the timeline although I like to think that it is sort of a bridge for ALTTP/LA-LOZ/AOL.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

There's more in-game evidence to suggest that Ganon burps. You, Sparty, have no logic in your theory.

"Heh heh... the wind... it is blowing..."
Seems more like a fart reference to me ^^

Originally Posted by Sparty

Perhaps in ST Ganon farts and the Master Sword magically comes out for Link to retrieve it. Taa-daa!

Sig'd.

Oh, and I call bull on Slagr's comment. You need to consider all the games to construct a good timeline, not throw some of them in last minute.