ST should take place in termina

I know this would completely wreck timeline theorizing a ton, but even so, does anyone else find themselves secretly hoping Spirit tracks is about the founding of termina? Not that I think it will, but personally, i kinda want it too.

Support for this "theory"
- That tower looks oddly like a clock
- The inside of "Hyrule" castle looks alot like the inside of the ikana castle, just younger.
- Follows the message of WW's ending infinitely better than the creation of a "New Hyrule"
- explains how termina magically came into existence, and its parallelism

Have you seen Europe's cover for ST? The one which completely disproves this?

Or maybe even the FIRST TRAILER FOR THE GAME? The one with ZELDA in it?

No way ST's in Termina.

Originally Posted by Double A

Have you seen Europe's cover for ST? The one which completely disproves this?

Or maybe even the FIRST TRAILER FOR THE GAME? The one with ZELDA in it?

No way ST's in Termina.

This man speaks the truth.

I voted for the last option.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

- That tower looks oddly like a clock
- The inside of "Hyrule" castle looks alot like the inside of the ikana castle, just younger.
- Follows the message of WW's ending infinitely better than the creation of a "New Hyrule"
- explains how termina magically came into existence, and its parallelism

1. TP temple of time's entrance looks alot like OoT Forest Temple's entrance. OMGZ DERE DA SAME

2. Yeah, and Zelda looks alot like Zelda... oh wait.

3. Not sure what you mean here.

4. Not sure how this is valid

Originally Posted by Dark~Knight

This man speaks the truth.

And don't you forget it!

1. TP temple of time's entrance looks alot like OoT Forest Temple's entrance. OMGZ DERE DA SAME

2. Yeah, and Zelda looks alot like Zelda... oh wait.

3. Not sure what you mean here.

4. Not sure how this is valid

1. not really

2. obviously the new ikana kingdom would have a princess, doesn't effectively prove anything, in MM the kingdom is dead, so no princess

3. wind waker was all about moving on and letting go, creating a "new land" and calling it hyrule isn't exactly letting go of the past

4. well it's just another explaination of how termina is parallel to hyrule, it didn't just magically appear, which makes a bit more sense if you ask me

If link got into termina why couldn't zelda? I am hoping....

So what you're saying is:

After WW, Link and Zelda discovered a new land and it became Termina? Even though... Termina existed some hundred years before WW?



Basically, you're proposing:

Maybe ST Link will travel back in time and dimensions to create Termina because there's a tower that could be a clock tower (which makes them the same because even though they look nothing alike there can't be multiple clock towers!) and also this one square room in this castle looks kind of the same as another square room in another castle!

no time flows differently on both time lines, while Hundreds of years had pasted on the AT, only afew years or even months ordays past on the CT kind of like in the chronicles of Narnia

But for it to be the founding of Termina, that would be long before the events of Majora's Mask, whereas Spirit Tracks happens long afterward in the Hyrule timelines.

god people, chill out. just because he said something that may not be true, dont like crush him. jesus.

Originally Posted by Hombre de Mundo

Maybe ST Link will travel back in time and dimensions to create Termina because there's a tower that could be a clock tower (which makes them the same because even though they look nothing alike there can't be multiple clock towers!) and also this one square room in this castle looks kind of the same as another square room in another castle!

Or it could work the other way around...

Instead of ST link going back in time, why not have OOT link move forward in time? When he fell into the portal into Termina, it could have been possible for him to have moved several hundred years into the future rather than just to another dimension.

Of course this is all in the name of fun, if that WAS true, then we would see some sort of remains of trains, or tracks in MM.

I joined just to comment on this topic, because the people in this topic seem to be jumping to conclusions without even thinking about it.

To the person who said that Europe's box art completely disproves ST taking place in Termina, how so? The ice mountains in the background could be Snowhead, the forest being Woodfall, and then the volcano either being a new location not seen in Termina before, or Ikana Valley. The tower could be a modernized version of the Clock Tower. While I personally think ST takes place in Hyrule, I'm not automatically counting Termina out just because of a piece of artwork, which could still represent Termina.

Also, Zelda could easily be in Termina. If ST does take place in Termina, I think it's possible that since Link was too busy saving Hyrule in the Adult timeline, and then getting erased from the adult timeline, Majora could have destroyed any civilization in Termina, since Link wasn't there to prevent it from happening. After Wind Waker, Link and Tetra set off, and find a Termina devoid of life, because Majora destroyed it while Link was either locked up for 7 years, or saving Hyrule. They take over the now destroyed Termina, and rebuild it as their own kingdom.

If Link wasn't there to protect Hyrule from Ganondorf in Wind Waker, then I think it's a possibility that Link wasn't there to protect Termina from Majora.

Seriously, don't sit there and be like "LOL ST CAN'T HAPPEN IN TERMINA CAUSE THERE'S A PIECE OF ARTWORK (which could possibly be Termina if you think about it) AND ZELDA'S THERE, AND WE ALL KNOW ZELDA CAN NEVER LEAVE HYRULE (even though she did at the end of Wind Waker and in the Oracles). WORST IDEA EVER."

^ Sure you could think like that. "Maybe X is true if Y, Z and K happened and A, B and C is true"

But this sort of speculation is uncalled for since no evidence really support it at all.

^ You could say the same for the popular theory of a new Hyrule too. All we know is that Hyrule was destroyed at the end of Wind Waker. There is no proof for a New Hyrule other than "Oh, Zelda's there and there's a castle," yet that seems to be a widely accepted theory. The only reason Termina isn't as accepted is because Termina's only appeared in one game, while Hyrule's appeared in most of the games.

There's no point in speculating anything in Spirit Tracks if you want to say speculating its location is uncalled for. We know next to nothing about Spirit Tracks. The only thing we have is Zelda's in it, there's a train, there's a tower that dominates the landscape, and it's after Phantom Hourglass. There's no evidence to back anything up when it comes to Spirit Tracks.

Originally Posted by Adders91

^ You could say the same for the popular theory of a new Hyrule too. All we know is that Hyrule was destroyed at the end of Wind Waker. There is no proof for a New Hyrule other than "Oh, Zelda's there and there's a castle," yet that seems to be a widely accepted theory.

Because Link and Zelda did not go to search for a new land in the end of WW, so there's no way they could've discovered it and that it later became the new Hyrule. Plus, there are no games in which Hyrule is on an island like FSA and no games with refferences to WW like TMC.

There's no point in speculating anything in Spirit Tracks if you want to say speculating its location is uncalled for.

Not true. I only say that speculating without any evidence is uncalled for. Another person had the idea that ST would take place in the same world as FS because it featured what could be locations from FS.

I say could be, because one was a big ice-mountain and one was a bunch of volcanoes and these are common within Zelda games, but if we look at the currently existing games, it does look like FS.

Compare this to the idea that the tower is the clock-tower of Termina. Sure, had they been looking alike, I would've been open to the idea, but they really do not.

The "New Land" is not Termina, it's an unflooded Hyrule, which could be where Spirit Tracks takes place, at least that's what people are speculating. However, I would like to see Termina in a future game. Maybe we can go to Termina from the Adult Timeline, and see what happens after the moon collides with it.

I agree in thinking that ST takes place in a New Hyrule, but there's absolutely no evidence that it does. Your only proof is just as fan fiction as any other land. You're assuming that Link and Tetra name the land Hyrule, against the King's wishes. While I think Hyrule is the most likely location of ST, previous posters in this thread have automatically counted Termina out just because Zelda's seen in a trailer and she's on the box art, and the box art looks like FSA's Hyrule.

And to your point about how ST's box art looks like FS's Hyrule, what makes that more credible than Termina? Termina also had icy mountains, Termina also had a volcano like feature, Termina also had a forest. Any previous location with a volcano, a forest, and an icy mountain could be where ST takes place. Just because it's in the same formation as FS's Hyrule, doesn't mean it takes place there. As we've seen with every Zelda, the geography changes from game to game. Lake Hylia, Death Mountain, and the Lost Woods change geographic location with every game, so just becuase it looks like FS's geography doesn't give you any evidence that it is FS's Hyrule.

You cannot look at a box art and say, "Oh, well, the ice mountains are left of the volcano type mountains. There's more proof supporting ST taking place in FS's Hyrule than Termina." You could look at Termina, from Romani Rance, facing the Clock Tower, and see the Clock Tower in the middle, Snowpeak on the left, and Ikana Valley's mountains on the right, with a forest in front of it all. Your speculation has just as much proof as Twilit Mask of Time's.

And MYK1217 is a prime example of the people in this thread that bother me. There is no proof at all that the New Hyrule is WW's Hyrule unflooded, and yet, they automatically discard Termina as being ST's land because there's no proof to back it up, while their own theory has no proof either.

Face it, no one knows where ST takes place, all locations could be a possibility. Don't count Termina out as a possibility just because the box art looks like FS/FSA's world, and Zelda's there. There is absolutely no proof backing it up.

I'm gonna go with option 4. There is no way that this new land is termina. And if it is, Nintendo definitly screwed this up.

I picked the last option.

Guess why.