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Old 10-29-2009, 07:27 PM
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Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

so im not really sure if i missed something but
why did the sages seal ganondorf in the evil realm?
couldnt link have just defeated ganondorf completely?
in the LoZ ganon has the ToP and is killed
i know the triforce doesnt act the same in every game but still
can anyone think of a reason why it was better to seal him away rather than kill him?
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:59 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

They didn't have silver arrows?
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

in TP he is killed without the silver arrows
the ToP leaves him
so it is possible to kill "ganondorf" without them
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:19 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

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in TP he is killed without the silver arrows
the ToP leaves him
so it is possible to kill "ganondorf" without them

but didn't he die after the ToP left him?

if he still had power when he died than he wont be dead he would've healed himself with little power he still had then the ToP would've left he was probably to weak to move
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:23 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

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but didn't he die after the ToP left him?
Yes, but there's nothing Link had in TP that he didn't in OoT, so he could in theory have done the same thing on the Adult timeline.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:10 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

^ Not necessarily.

In TP, Link had the light thingy in the MS which - of course - we don't know how/if it affects Ganondorf.

Second, Ganondorf had a permanent wound in TP which he didn't have in OoT.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:54 PM
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In TP, Link had the light thingy in the MS which - of course - we don't know how/if it affects Ganondorf.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:17 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

The Master Sword can't kill Ganon.

In TP, Ganondorf formed an omnyoji (forgot how to spell it) connection meaning that if Ganondorf is dying, and Zant refuses to revive him, then Ganondorf dies.

I forgot what the real explanation was, so could somebody help out?
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:31 PM
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The Master Sword can't kill Ganon.

In TP, Ganondorf formed an omnyoji (forgot how to spell it) connection meaning that if Ganondorf is dying, and Zant refuses to revive him, then Ganondorf dies.

I forgot what the real explanation was, so could somebody help out?
Japanese mythological demons posing as gods would create a soul connection between themselves and a minion, who would revive the demon if necessary and the demon in turn could revive the minion.

However, if at any point the minion found out his demon god was evil, he would break the connection, refusing to be revived by his demon god. This would in turn kill the demon god because nobody would be alive to revive him.

I think that's how it goes.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:37 AM
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:02 AM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

thats an easy one if they killed him he would just be reborn into the gerudo tribe in another hundred years or so, and when you think of it, it makes the story's of the future games more intresting
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:00 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

I'll review all the games in which Ganondorf dies, and why he died.

LoZ: Link has Silver Arrows.
ALttP: Link has Silver Arrows; ToP is not in Ganondorf's hand
OoX: The revival ritual went wrong; ToP is not in Ganon(dorf)'s hand
TWW: ToP is not in Ganondorf's hand
TP: Ganondorf has a glaring weakness where the Sage of Water stabbed him; as a result ToP leaves him after Link deals the Ending Blow; Zant refuses to revive him

Light Arrows alone cannot kill Ganondorf; but they play a significant part in weakening him enough to either seal him or kill him.

In OoT Ganondorf had the ToP in his hand and Link did not have Silver Arrows. Ganondorf did not have a huge weakness that would be enough to kill him without Silver Arrows. Plus, Zelda and the Sages weren't counting on Ganondorf escaping from his seal.

That concludes my theory on why Ganondorf was sealed in the Dark World.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:25 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

Once the Silver Arrow weakness is discovered, you'd think Silver Arrows would be kept on hand
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:50 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

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But yes, he had the Sol-powered Master Sword.
Yes he did, but the Sol-powers in the Master Sword, can only combat the twili, which as well all know, Ganondorf was the king of Twili/Darkness yadda yadda yadda, but since he wasn't complete twili it wouldn't of hurt him as much
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:24 AM
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In TP, Link had the light thingy in the MS which - of course - we don't know how/if it affects Ganondorf.
It doesn't; the light thingy only activates in the Twilight Realm, according to the game.

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Ganondorf had weak points without the wound in OoT.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:33 AM
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The Master Sword can't kill Ganon.
If you remember the ending to WW then i would have to prove you wrong, he was turned to stone by the master sword and i believe that he shattered when hyrule sank, but i could be wrong (its been a long time)
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:13 AM
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If you remember the ending to WW then i would have to prove you wrong, he was turned to stone by the master sword and i believe that he shattered when hyrule sank, but i could be wrong (its been a long time)
He didn't shatter, but Aonuma confirmed that turning to stone meant he died.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:49 PM
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It doesn't; the light thingy only activates in the Twilight Realm, according to the game.
Doesn't it also make it extra effective against Twilight monsters? Repelling Twilight dark magic stuff?

We know Ganondorf uses Twili magic in TP (we see him use it in the throne room), so yes it could make a diference.



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Ganondorf had weak points without the wound in OoT.
Ganon had a weak point, not Ganondorf. But Link also had light arrows in OoT which were required to harm Ganondorf
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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Doesn't it also make it extra effective against Twilight monsters? Repelling Twilight dark magic stuff?
It repels "shadow crystals," but again only in the twilight realm.

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Ganon had a weak point, not Ganondorf. But Link also had light arrows in OoT which were required to harm Ganondorf
The Light Arrows "lowered his defenses" - if that doesn't mean he has a weak point, I don't know what does.

Light Arrows were also required to harm him at first in the final battle in TP.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: Why was Ganondorf sealed and not killed?

I think when Ganon is killed, he is only destroyed physically (TP and WW) but his soul still exists. This allows him to reincarnate later (FSA). But when Ganon is killed using the Silver Arrows, Ganon is destroyed completely (ALttP). This means he can not be brought back ever, and the closest thing one can do to bring him back is to create a new/fake Ganon (in OoX).

Also I think Ganon can only be killed if he is not holding the ToP. This rule applies for any weapon OTHER than the Silver Arrows, which completely destroy Ganon no matter what (LoZ).

And since Ganon WAS holding the ToP during the time of his execution, the sages were unable to kill him. Thus they did the next best thing, they banished him into a prison dimension.

(It's been long time since I have stated anything in theorizing, so forgive me if I stated any incorrect info.)
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