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ST->LoZ/AoL

Okay, let's assume for just a second that NoA is right about their ST TL placement, which I'm not saying they are, it's simply too early to tell for sure, but if they are right then perhaps ST will cover the first part of the AoL BS where the Great King (who would just so happen to be ST's Link) finally unites the Triforc into one Force. Then over the next 20-50 years, Link and Zelda get together and get it on (Finally!), have a son and a daughter (AoL BS Prince and Zelda), and finally Re-split the triforce, giving the ToP to the prince, the ToW to Zelda and hiding the ToC, all before he dies.
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Why would Zelda marry someone who couldn't offer political allies, military help or trade agreements to increase there thrones stablity and there peoples quality of lives? Dispite Royalty not being legally allowed in most forms of monarchy of the time to marry anyone outside noble and royal circles, And most likely, being bethrohed to someone who could increase Hyrules political power since birth? Link and Zelda will never marry, They are from two seperate worlds, Princesses have this duty DRUMMED into them since birth.

Its not gonna happen.
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Re: ST->LoZ/AoL

I don't think any in-game content will EVER cover any of the legends.
The legends are there as a shaky explanation, so that future games have
the option of creating new reasons IMO.
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Why would Zelda marry someone who couldn't offer political allies, military help or trade agreements to increase there thrones stablity and there peoples quality of lives? Dispite Royalty not being legally allowed in most forms of monarchy of the time to marry anyone outside noble and royal circles, And most likely, being bethrohed to someone who could increase Hyrules political power since birth? Link and Zelda will never marry, They are from two seperate worlds, Princesses have this duty DRUMMED into them since birth.

Its not gonna happen.
1.) You're using real-world laws in an argument about a fictional world.

2.) Zelda is seemingly THE ruler of Hyrule judging by the fact that there are no other candidates at the end of WW and PH. She makes the rules. If she wants to allow Non-royalty + Royalty marriage, she and Link can do whatever they damn well please. Besides, for a boy who saves the entire kingdom from certain destruction, he's more than qualified.

3.) Zelda's not that shallow. She's probably the wisest and most compassionate individual in the entire series. She wouldn't refuse to marry somebody based on their lack of ability to offer military assistance or because of royal obligation.

4.) Link has saved Hyrule all by himself time and time again. I think he's all the military assistance Hyrule needs. TP and OoT show that Link is always the most competent one, and Hyrule's army rarely plays any role in defeating the main evil of the game.

5.) If ST really is a sequel to PH, Link and Zelda are not from "different worlds," their ancestors (WW Link and Tetra) were good friends and discovered a new land to set up a kingdom on. You think Tetra would arrive with him on the new kingdom and suddenly kick him out of the new Castle and send him to live on a farm?
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1) Hyrule may be fictional but it has to follow the basic laws of reality. Its like having a Pigeon that swims udnerwater instead of flies.

2) Zelda is NOT the ruler of Hyrule, many games she is the heir, not the ruler. And these things are decided at Birth, like it or lump it.

3) She is not a love struck tart.
She is not a disney princess who wants to find her friggin heart.
She is a Princess, That is, there role, by definition, Shallow has no part in it. Zelda's duty, something she as a character would never shirk, would be to marry someone of high a status as possible who can give something to Hyrule, be it an Alliance, Trade, etc. She would know this from birth as her job, its second nature to her, turning into a emo teen chasing after puppy love is not wise.

4) Can Link save the country from bad harvests? Can Link secure Hyrules influence which would improve safety? Could Link stop a army of 1000 well trained knights on horse back with muskets all at the same time?

5) Friends and lovers are diffrent. Queen Victoria was great friends with common folk from her indian province, she by no means could go marry them.


Open up the flood gates of teen puppy love, and at some point, down the line, incarnation or not, it will sometime turn into incest. It doesnt work on any level other then final fantasy. This fanon obession with puppy love pairing is annoying, it needs to die!
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Re: ST->LoZ/AoL

Nintendo has already learned their lesson when it comes to trying to force one game to be another's backstory *looks at Ocarina of Time*
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Too early to theorize.
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Nintendo has already learned their lesson when it comes to trying to force one game to be another's backstory *looks at Ocarina of Time*
100$ it'll happen again withing the next 5 Zelda's.
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1) Hyrule may be fictional but it has to follow the basic laws of reality.
No it most certainly does not. Link is allowed to run around and enter all kinds of public places with all kinds of weapons and nobody seems to care. He doesn't need a hunting license to go out and kill all kinds of native beasts. Hyrule doesn't have to follow ****.

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Its like having a Pigeon that swims underwater instead of flies.
That's not a law of society or social class, that's a law of science. There's no comparison here whatsoever.

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2) Zelda is NOT the ruler of Hyrule, many games she is the heir, not the ruler. And these things are decided at Birth, like it or lump it.
Where is the king in TP? Where is the king after WW and PH? Zelda is the only one present in the latter two games that is of royal blood. She's the only possible ruler unless she decides to let someone else make all the rules. She can do whatever she wants.

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3) She is not a love struck tart.
She is not a disney princess who wants to find her friggin heart.
She is a Princess, That is, there role, by definition, Shallow has no part in it. Zelda's duty, something she as a character would never shirk, would be to marry someone of high a status as possible who can give something to Hyrule, be it an Alliance, Trade, etc. She would know this from birth as her job, its second nature to her, turning into a emo teen chasing after puppy love is not wise.
Since when does Hyrule need outside alliances? They have the Gorons to the East, the Zoras to the West, and the Hylians right in the middle. And I fail to see how she would know from birth, as Tetra, someone who did not grow up under royal circumstances, that her royal duty is to marry somebody who will provide those things. She grew up as a pirate, Tetra only seems to know freedom, not royal obligations.

And lol that you think one must be emo to have romantic interest in another person.

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4) Can Link save the country from bad harvests?
Can anyone? No, that's nature.

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Can Link secure Hyrules influence which would improve safety?
That's a diplomat's job. And it has never worked in Hyrule's past anyway, so what's the point?

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Could Link stop a army of 1000 well trained knights on horse back with muskets all at the same time?
You'd have to be retarded to waste your entire army in one single attack. And Link has stopped entire armies before. And muskets, lol.

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5) Friends and lovers are diffrent. Queen Victoria was great friends with common folk from her indian province, she by no means could go marry them.
Real world =/= a fictional world where the writers can do whatever the **** they want with the characters.


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Open up the flood gates of teen puppy love, and at some point, down the line, incarnation or not, it will sometime turn into incest.
Well damn, guys, if you're a teenager and you're interested in another teenager, your descendants are going to be sleeping with each others' siblings! And that wouldn't happen from one game. Will Link and Zelda's descendants start sleeping with their siblings after OoX and AoL?

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It doesnt work on any level other then final fantasy. This fanon obession with puppy love pairing is annoying, it needs to die!
Wow. It's an obsession that I mentioned that it is entirely possible for it to happen? Wow, somebody has some serious phobias to deal with. Seriously, do you even know where babies come from?
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Its like having a Pigeon that swims udnerwater instead of flies.
Reminds me of the Zora -> Rito transformation...
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Can Link secure Hyrules influence which would improve safety?
Why would he need that if he's got the whole Triforce AKA the TRUE FORCE TO GOVERN ALL!
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Could Link stop a army of 1000 well trained knights on horse back with muskets all at the same time?
You forget, this is LINK we're talking about. Plus if he's got the whole Triforce, he could take on
1,000,000 of said knights at once. He'd be like a one-man Atom Bomb
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Nah Links never faced more then 3 stalfos as at a time, He can't stop a invading army (Throwback to that stupid boozoka/portable canon from TP, a army of those and links a dead duck), and never has *cough ganon cough* Thats what an alliance would be for, The Gorons and Zoras are finate, any larger force or allied force outside Hyrule will crush them, Not like the Hylians have defened -anything- lately.
And its doubtful link would forever use the triforce as a doomsday weapon forever, It doesn't seem inclined to stick around that long anyway.

And where is the King in MC, OOT, AlTTP? huh?

Keep your teen twilight puppy love out, Its just retarded, like you. Who seems to think nothing bad exists outside Hyrules boarders and nothing bad can ever happen and so they can just ignore it. (Yeah... Zeldas a politician by trade...)

Will there be a race to a airport as Link tries to stop his love from flying off to new york, while she throws her legs in the air only caring about filling her knickers?
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Where is the king in TP? Where is the king after WW and PH? Zelda is the only one present in the latter two games that is of royal blood. She's the only possible ruler unless she decides to let someone else make all the rules. She can do whatever she wants.
TP really had no king... Zelda was pretty much the Queen of Hyrule in that game (she's the person so stands by the throne and surrenders the kingdom to Zant's invasion, after all)... But that's the only time she's actually a queen in-game. After WW and PH, Tetra/Zelda probrably became queen of whatever kingdom they founded, but that doesn't mean ST Zelda will be a queen too...
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Funny thing about that is that MC is not any game's backstory. It has to precede FS/FSA, yes, but it's not their backstory.
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PH seems to slightly connect itself to LoZ, but I doubt ST will do anything for it.
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Keep your teen twilight puppy love out, Its just retarded, like you.

Will there be a race to a airport as Link tries to stop his love from flying off to new york, while she throws her legs in the air only caring about filling her knickers?
Wow. You have a serious problem. Seriously, how old are you? Because no mature adult pretends sexual reproduction doesn't exist and then calls someone a retard for telling them that it does, in fact, exist.

And by the way, I hate Twilight with a passion.
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Why would Zelda marry someone who couldn't offer political allies, military help or trade agreements to increase there thrones stablity and there peoples quality of lives? Dispite Royalty not being legally allowed in most forms of monarchy of the time to marry anyone outside noble and royal circles, And most likely, being bethrohed to someone who could increase Hyrules political power since birth? Link and Zelda will never marry, They are from two seperate worlds, Princesses have this duty DRUMMED into them since birth.

Its not gonna happen.
Lol, military help? Hyrule dosen't have any military, only knights that get owned until Link comes along, a little kiddie.
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Wow. You have a serious problem. Seriously, how old are you? Because no mature adult pretends sexual reproduction doesn't exist and then calls someone a retard for telling them that it does, in fact, exist.

And by the way, I hate Twilight with a passion.
Wait.

Wait wait.
wait.

Where did I deny reproduction exists you freaking retard? Read before you post you moronic noob.

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Lol, military help? Hyrule dosen't have any military, only knights that get owned until Link comes along, a little kiddie.
Could link face a army, a whole one, at one time, not one by one, at any time, all his live and beyond? How wise is it of Zelda to go chasing kids instead of doing what is, in basic terms her job in finding people who can defend Hyrule against larger threats for longer periods, we know Link doesn't hang about, He's left Hyrule a fair old bit. Most peope think a Princess sits on a pretty seat in a pretty dress with jewels being pretty, But its a job of sacrafice and service, And Zelda would be a cheep husk of a character in that position to merely be a Disney Princess. I don't belive everyone needs to live a happy life of freedom, and having Zelda in that position would give her so much more character.
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Wait.

Wait wait.
wait.

Where did I deny reproduction exists you freaking retard? Read before you post you moronic noob.
There you go again with the mindless insults. I wasn't being literal, moronic noob. I was exaggerating the fact that, judging by your posts in this thread, you have a severe phobia of male/female relationships existing in a Zelda game.

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Could link face a army, a whole one, at one time, not one by one, at any time, all his live and beyond?
What retard would send their entire army, every single soldier, into one single battle? And where do you get this idea that the new Hyrule will be at war for every moment of Link's life? And where do you get this idea that new Hyrule has an opposing army to begin with?

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I don't belive everyone needs to live a happy life of freedom, and having Zelda in that position would give her so much more character.
Lol wut? Having Zelda be a stereotypical ruler with no emotions or desire for happiness would make her a better character? As opposed to being a ruler with a personality and real wants and regrets, like OoT/WW/TP Zelda?
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