Mirror of Twilight/Dark Mirror

I am not sure how many, but I know there are people who believe that the Mirror of Twilight is the Dark Mirror. Can some one explain why this is?

In my opinion the Mirror of Twilight is not the dark mirror.

One of my main reasons for this is that people other then Triforce bearers cannot exist in the Twilight Realm or an area blanketed with Twilight without becoming a spirit. Link was protected from this by becoming a wolf.

In ALttP Link transformed, but was a pink rabbit and in FSA he doesn't change at all. Link also has the ability to talk to and interact with people in the Dark World, while people in areas blanketed by Twilight cannot even see him.

The Dark World is parallel to Hyrule except for the extension in ALttP. They Twilight Realm is its own place. Twilight only "infects" Hyrule Link is not in a parallel realm in TP.

I am not sure about this, but isn't the Dark World just the Sacred Realm that becomes corrupt after Ganondorf has entrance into it? If the Twilight Realm is the Dark World at the time Ganondorf was sent into it, after failed execution, then wouldn't it still be the Sacred Realm and not the Twilight Realm with the Twili living in it.

Just some notes. I am just wondering who and why believes that the Twilight Realm is the Dark World... I am not sure if this is correct, and I am definitely not that good at theory. I think this is my second thread creation in theorizing and my last one was Zora=Rito which you all obviosuly knew already. Please do not be too harsh on my mistakes.

Please Discuss.

Since you seem to be interested in this subject, you might want to read this thread:

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/...ame-thing.html

I think the Twilight Realm is only seen in TP.

I think that the Sacred Realm/Golden Land was corrupted into the Dark World/Evil Realm
and that the Sacred Realm always resembled Hyrule, but then Ganon corrupted it.
Also, the Sacred Realm did not transform people until Ganon wished on the Triforce.

As for the mirrors, a dark tribe was sealed inside the Dark Mirror, whereas after
the interlopers were banished into the Twilight Realm, the Mirror of Twilight was
created as a link to that world. The Mirror of Twilight creates a portal that you
can use to enter the Twilight Realm, the Twilight Realm is not inside the Mirror
of Twilight.

And that's my two cents.

In ALttP Link transformed, but was a pink rabbit

he didn't have the triforce at that point. but there are many other things pointing towards them NOT being the same thing.
such as it haveing its own *permanet* pedastol, and haveing an oversized rock.

In my opinion the Dark World in FSA is not the Twilight Realm; it is the same Dark World we see in the other games (ALttP, OoT, etc.).

So, because of this, the Dark World in FSA really wouldn't reflect anything about the Dark Mirror, since the Dark Mirror and the Dark World are completely unrelated.

I think the mirrors are different, but not completely unrelated. I think it's just Hyrulean tradition to put your dark enemies away with mirrors. And for the below points.

1.) The Interlopers were banished before the split ever occurred, and TP shows us that the Mirror of Twilight stayed in the same location since then. Meanwhile, the Dark Mirror was stored in the forests of Hyrule immediately after the banishment of its own respective Dark Tribe, and remains there until FSA, meaning it wasn't moved.

2.) The Mirror of Twilight merely serves as a portal to another world, whereas the Dark Mirror literally contains the Dark Tribe inside of it.

3.) They look nothing alike.

Response:
1) Proof?
2) Quotes?
3) Here are some pics...


The Dark Mirror (FSA)


The Twilight Mirror

...Yea, i guess you're right.

Originally Posted by Link92

...TP shows us that the Mirror of Twilight stayed in the same location since then...

I believe this, but where does TP show us that:
- The Mirror of Twilight was never moved
- The Arbiter's Grounds is the original location of the Mirror of Twilight

Originally Posted by Ojlink9

Here are some pics...


The Dark Mirror (FSA)


The Twilight Mirror

...Yea, i guess you're right.

You should probably use an actual picture of the Mirror of Twilight instead of a drawing from DeviantART.

Also, just in case it is hard to tell, the small blue circle in the first image is the actual Dark Mirror. The black thing is just a large platform.

No, the wolf in TP is a retcon of the rabbit of ALttP.

Also, the Twilight Realm is what begins the transformation of the Dark World. Hyrule is temporarily the Dark World even in TP at the start.

The Dark World in FSA matches the one in ALttP.
It has similar-yet-different geography, but does not transform people.

There are mages who entered FSA's Dark World without using a moon portal,
the result is, they weren't transformed; besides ALttP tells us that the Dark World
didn't transform people until Ganon wished on the Triforce:

To restore the Golden Land, a
person worthy of the Golden
Power must defeat the man who
created this place...
Until that time, I am stuck in
this bizarre shape.

^ This quote shows that the shape-shifting nature of the Dark World will cease as
soon as Ganon is killed. Therefore Ganon's wish accounts for the shape-altering
power of the Dark World. Ganon made no Triforce wish before TP. He didn't even
enter the Sacred Realm (that was the whole point of keeping the Door of Time
shut this time around) therefore, at the time of TP, the Sacred Realm was still pure.
There is no Dark World in TP. The interlopers were banished to the Twilight
Realm to keep them away from the Sacred Realm and the Triforce, therefore,
when the Sages sealed Ganondorf in the Twilight Realm, they didn't send him to the
Sacred Realm.

In short, the Sacred Realm corrupted by ALttP Ganon's wish caused Link's rabbit form in ALttP.
The Twilight Realm (completely NOT the Sacred Realm) caused Link's wolf form in TP.

It makes no sense for TP and ALttP to have the same Dark World. That would mean that
the Twilight Realm = the Sacred Realm, and banishing the interlopers into the Sacred Realm
would not stop them from using the Triforce...

EDIT:
In TP the Twilight Realm was merging with Hyrule, that's all.

EDIT2:
The merging of the Twilight Realm with Hyrule turned people into spirits,
it did not transform anyone except the Hero.

Originally Posted by Ojlink9

1) Proof?

The interloper conflict was before OoT. There's no way to argue against that because after OoT, the Triforce was no longer in the Sacred Realm. It went with Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. So there would be no reason for the Interlopers to attempt to conquer the Sacred Realm if there's no Triforce inside of it. Besides, the Interlopers emerged during the wars over the Triforce that precede OoT, where word of the Sacred Realm started to spread.

Interloper conflict = Pre-split

Also, Auru's quote about Arbiter's Grounds says that the prison was used to house Hyrule's worst criminals, who were sent into the Twilight Realm through use of a "cursed mirror that was kept in the prison." These "criminals" would include the Interlopers.

Hyrule's "worst criminals" at this point in the timeline:

Ganondorf
Ganondorf's followers
The Interlopers

Originally Posted by Ojlink9

2) Quotes?

Lol I don't need quotes for this point. Go play TP. It quite clearly shows us that you do not go inside the Mirror of Twilight when you go to the Twilight Realm. The Mirror acts as a projector that opens a portal, not the portal itself.

... Why did Zelda get to keep her human form with out a transformation or becoming a spirit?

Besides the Triforce of Wisdom please, because Link has Courage and he becomes a Wolf.

The Triforce brings out the spirit inside someone when they enter a different realm.

Courage turned Link into a wolf.
Wisdom turned Zelda into some lady.
Power turned Ganondorf into a green guy.

Originally Posted by Navi the Fairy

... Why did Zelda get to keep her human form with out a transformation or becoming a spirit?

Besides the Triforce of Wisdom please, because Link has Courage and he becomes a Wolf.

There is a theory that the cape Zelda wears keeps her from becoming a spirit.
It has a Sheikah symbol on it. Or maybe Zant allowed her to keep her physical
form because she surrendered?

Originally Posted by Cukeman

There is a theory that the cape Zelda wears keeps her from becoming a spirit. It has a Sheikah symbol on it. Or maybe Zant allowed her to keep her physical form because she surrendered?

The bolded part is the one I believe.

Well, although that sounds crazy ok Cukeman.

Also, I just remembered. In ALttP's Dark World everyone was transformed into something that their personality represented.

^ That was because of Ganon's wish on the Triforce. It changed the Sacred Realm and everything in it into whatever he wanted Hyrule to be like.

^Now the tricky question arises: Did that happen in OoT aswell?

^ Now an even trickier question arises: Does the Triforce split before someone can make a wish on it or after?