Is Midna a Gerudo?

It seems to me there are some simalarities between the Female Gerudos from MM or OoT and the Midna that is shown at the end of TP.
I just thought I'd put that out there since Ganondorf is a Male Gerudian and he could've banished his own race in to the Twilight long ago for some apparent cause that I don't know or they could just be Twilit beings.. So it's your opinion what do you think?



That is a Gerudo Thief



That is Midna in her human form

So there do you kind of see my point and sorry I could turn that image of Midna to be a spoiler... I know there is not much proof of this yet and don't get so hard on me this is my first Theorizing thread I've made so far... And If somebody proves if it is true or not someone can lock this thread.

Nah, Midna isn't a form of any gerudo at all. She is a TWILI, a complete other world creature.

Originally Posted by Watties

Nah, Midna isn't a form of any gerudo at all. She is a TWILI, a complete other world creature.

^Yes^

Having red hair does not make someone a Gerudo.

Originally Posted by TP Ganondorf

Your people have long amused me,
Midna. To defy the gods with such
petty magic, only to be cast aside...
How very pathetic.

^ Gerudo =/= Twili

Your people, not My people

I think that the Twili are Zunas, and that both desert tribes (Zuna and Gerudo) have red hair.
I also think Veran is a Zuna. Compare Veran to Midna...

Here we have Veran and Aghanim... Two individuals who Represent a Light-ish Blue colored Race. (Veran is the Focus of this Here, really). Red Eyes on Veran.




Here's "Her" in Human Form. ok...





The Zuna Sprites. Ok, so if Midna (A Twili) is a Zuna... Then that means.

-The Zuna who ARE in four swords should be IN that Dark Mirror or, if you don't think the two are the same, In the Twilight Mirror somewhere.

-Zuna appear Green, "Her" and Veran appear Blue.

So perhaps Veran is, simply, a Twili?

or Maybe the Zuna are the last of their Kind on the Outside of that Mirror.

Theory: The Gerudo and Zuna Live together in FSA. Maybe the Zuna picked up traits from the Gerudo and had a culture built around it, and this would be their History, as in... At the beginning of any one's timeline, the Zuna and Gerudo were nearly as one yet separate by Color (i suppose). The Zuna were the Original race that challenged the Hylians for the Triforce, most were sent to the Twili realm, some did not. These "Did-not's" had descendants who later became Veran and Agahnim. But... they all had a similar culture due to living with Eachother for a long time. This explains 3 things.

1: Why the Zuna live with the Gerudo
2: Why the Similarities between these characters are there.
3: Why the Zuna, as a complete race, don't appear in other games after FSA
(Number 3 is incorporating the fact that the Zuna are Few, the Desert is harsh to both Gerudo and Zuna (Possibly explaining the Gerudo's absence as well), and noting how the Gorons and Kokiri and Etc. seemingly die off in later games due to lack of numbers)

Is it just me, or does the very attractive lady (the first one thats not "her") Seem to have the gerudo symbol on her shoulder... things. Not only that but also it seems that there is also an upside-down shekiah symbol on her dress. Also, the dude next to her also seems to have a form oh the shekian symbol. Just thought that I should point these out ^_^.

Hmm... Maybe the Shiekah were also a part of this "DARK Race". Maybe it consisted of The Gerudo, Zuna/Twili, and Shiekah. They all do seem to share a lot of similarities. Maybe they have a relation ship thats similar to Humans and Hylians or Zora, River Zora's, and Rito's or Kokiri's and Koroks and etc. Hmm...

If you want my opinion, there's no way that the Twili could be Gerudo because they're not a race of all females. From what I remember of the Twilight Realm, didn't all those beings Link rescued have male voices? I always assumed they were male. Since the majority of the Twili we see are male, we can assume that they are not very Gerudo at all.

So... because a female Gerudo and Midna both have breasts, they're the same? I mean, Midna's taller, Gerudo's skin is brown and Midna's blue-ish...

I don't see anything similar between them but their female body.

Originally Posted by Diz

Is it just me, or does the very attractive lady (the first one thats not "her") Seem to have the gerudo symbol on her shoulder... things. Not only that but also it seems that there is also an upside-down shekiah symbol on her dress. Also, the dude next to her also seems to have a form oh the shekian symbol. Just thought that I should point these out ^_^.

These are the first things I noticed, haha. If they aren't all the same somehow, the Gerudo, Zuna, Twili, and Sheikah are all releated somehow. The Twilight palace contains both Gerudo and Sheikah symbols, Veran has Gerudo symbols on her shoulders and a Sheikah-esque symbol on her dress. Agahnim has a Sheikah eye on his clothes, while appearing just like a Zuna (or the Zuna were modeled after him...). Ive suggested it before, but what if the "boyfriends" the Gerudo were said to go into Hyrule for were Sheikah? This would mean the "Gerudo" are a blend of Gerudo and Sheikah, and if the Gerudo end up becoming the Twili, that would explain all the symbolism. Maybe the "male every 100 years" thing was lost somehow in the Twilight Realm...

I honestly can't believe that the creators would accidentally put all these references to eachother in these tribes, they had to have done it for a reason. And I don't buy the argument that the eye is a common symbol and might not only be associated with the Sheikah. This isn't real life where these cultures have evolved isolated from eachother, they are all connected to the same group of people in Japan that are creating this fictional world as a playable story... THEY made the eye a Sheikah symbol, THEY made the Gerudo symbol a Gerudo symbol, and THEY spend a LOT of time planning this stuff out... and they obviously want to keep us guessing. Has anyone realized that these mysterious "outsider" tribes have been almost THE main mystery in almost all of the Zelda games? And each new game gives a slight reference to another mysterious tribe, but not in an obvious way at all... Nintendo created their own "Maya civilization" in a way, a culture shrouded in mystery that no one seems to be able to understand fully. Its awesome, and one of the things that has made me fall so deeply in love with these games!

...but then, all that I'm saying might not be true at all

Hmm actually

Theory: Simply state that the Gerudo, Shiekah & Twili/Zuna all lived in one general area.

Gerudo = All Females (Except one every 100 years)
Sheikah = Extinct (Save a few)
Twili = Sealed in the Twilight Realm
Zuna = (i assert that they are the remnants of the Twili Race/The last remaining Twili outside the Twilight Realm)

Now, lets say that these races (Three Seperate races, mind you) were all a part of the "DARK Tribe". That would mean... SPECULATION ALERT

The Gerudo were banished to the harsh desert (The Zuna went with them)

The Twili (who may be the same tribe who created Majora's Mask) were sent to the Twilight Realm (for being the most Aggressive and Overt in their desire for the Triforce)

The Sheikah were all Killed (save for a few who repented and began working for the Kingdom) for they were the "Warriors" of the Dark tribe (tribe = alliance, it makes better sense with that word)

So...

I Conclude that there is a culture that allows for: Eye symbolism, Duel symbolism, Color of Eye and Skin being either Red or Regular & Brown or Blue/Green, respectively, Etc.

But...

There were THREE races: Zuna/Twili, Gerudo, and Sheikah...

In my honest opinion,

Zuna + Shiekah = Interlopers

Think about it. If the Zuna live in the desert, like the Gerudo, this means they probably share similar cultures and customs, explaining why Zant has an altered Gerudo symbol in the cutscene where he meets Ganondorf for the first time, which means he had it even before meeting Ganondorf. The Twili also have the "eye" symbol of the Shiekah on the back of the Fused Shadow, the back of Midna's cloak, and the back of Midna's throne. The Shiekah and Midna and Veran also have red eyes. This is why I believe the Shiekah are so few in numbers by the time of OoT and TP. Gor Coron tells us that they dwindled in the prolonged wars. I take this to mean many of the Shiekah were Interlopers and most of them were banished into the Twilight Realm while most of the good ones were killed in battle against them.

And look at Veran and Midna. They both have red eyes and hair, while the background "whites" of their eyes are both yellow, they both have pale bluish skin, and they're both very well-endowed, if you catch my drift.

So according to my theory, these are the possible Twili and obviously the confirmed Twili.

Midna
Zant
Vaati (red eyes and bluish skin)
Veran (bluish skin, red eyes, hot)
Agahnim (bluish skin, shares a similar eye symbol with the above)



Ganon really seems to have a hobby of recruiting Twili, for a race that he really hates.

I also like how Vaati's hair only allows us to see a single red eye, with a teardrop looking mark underneath it

I always thought that his other eye was missing for some reason, so he had to cover it up with his hair.

The reason they came out with twili, is to make it a seperate species. And if they were gerudo, they would have mentioned banned gerudos.

Well, [I beleive] Dark Mirror is different then Mirror of Twilight.
Twili=Zuna... Wrong
Twili=Gerudo... Ganondorf says to Midna "your people" thus he is not referring to Gerudo. Also, why would the sages punish Ganon by sending him to his people?

I thought Vaati was a Minish...

He is, but people think that because of his wish(to become the worlds greatest sorcerer) with the Minish Cap that he became a different race.

not a different race...well..maybe... I thoguht just a magical hylian ... thusCreatingTheSheikah .............

Vaati = Minish. Uses hat to get into human / hylian form.