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Old 10-17-2009, 09:35 PM
Beemnorv Beemnorv is a male Canada Beemnorv is offline
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Surnames, Sir!

I am quite curious about what the surname is for each Zelda character, so in this thread, I intend to figure out each important character's surname (less important characters' names could help too).

Ganondorf
I believe that Ganondorf's surname is "Dragmire", simply because NoA said so and even though they just made it up from nowhere, it doesn't contradict what NoJ has to say as they haven't said anything on that matter.

Zelda
Zelda's surname is likely "Hyrule". I figured this because in WW, the ancient King of Hyrule (related to Zelda) stated his name to be "King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule".

Link (general)
This one is pretty baseless, but I think that "Link" would be the protagonist's surname, while his given name is simply the one you give him when you start your game (X Link).

Link (TMC)
In the Medieval Times, people were given surnames based on their occupation. In TMC, Link's grandfather was a sword smith and, coincidentally, his name is "Smith". If that is his surname, then his grandson would be named Link (or whatever name you give him) Smith.

For all Links, any Link descended from the one in TMC would be named X Smith and all the other Links would be named X Link.


What do you think? I await your input.
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:56 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Impa is a family name... I suppose it might be a surname.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:06 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Thank you, Cukeman. I forgot about that.

Impa
"Impa" would be the surname of Princess Zelda's nursemaid. The elderly woman we meet in the Hidden Village in TP would, in full, be named Impaz Impa.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:24 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Beemnorv: Impaz Impa? Sounds rather strange. What is the basis for Impa being a family name?
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:31 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

I can't remember, but I think Impaz says that her name is derived from her family name or from the person who founded the village. I remember the words "family name" being in there though.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

By family name i thought she meant something like the naming all female princesses Zelda tradition.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:45 PM
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:50 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Okay but couldn't the tradition of Zelda be a family name as well?
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:03 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

"Link Smith" sounds like somebody who makes chains for a living.

Since nobody but Daphnes and Ganondorf are ever indicated to have last names, it may not be something the common citizen would have.

Look at Ocarina of Time and its "Lon-Lon" Ranch, named for the second syllable in the names of Talon and his daughter Malon. Had they a surname, I think that would have been the name of the ranch instead.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:08 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Mandrag: It's possible. Although what if lon is their surname? We really have no way of knowing. Although i thought Lon-Lon meant something in japanese(kind like how Jabu-Jabu means splash splash and Kakariko essentially means cluck).
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Okay but couldn't the tradition of Zelda be a family name as well?
No, that's a family tradition. "Zelda" is still her given name. The name that's there by default is the family name (Hyrule), so every female born into the Royal Family is named Zelda Hyrule.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:10 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Wait if Zelda got married and had a child then wouldn't her surname stop being Hyrule? I'm getting confused.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:20 PM
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Mandrag: It's possible. Although what if lon is their surname? We really have no way of knowing.
A guy named Talon Lon calling his business "Lon-Lon"? That actually works pretty well...
Still, I'm pretty sure they ain't got one.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

I don't want to pull a SVB, but I think this is bordering theory and fiction guessing names...
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:25 PM
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Wait if Zelda got married and had a child then wouldn't her surname stop being Hyrule? I'm getting confused.
Yeah, I just thought of that too. Maybe people of royalty get to keep their surname, or women could possibly be the dominant gender of Hyrule and men have to change their surnames when they get married.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:30 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

Well then Daphnes wouldn't be named hyrule anymore. Maybe it's just a social thing where the higher social class is the one whose name is adopted by the spouse.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:31 PM
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I don't want to pull a SVB, but I think this is bordering theory and fiction guessing names...
As I explained to smallville boy before he was banned, a theory is just an idea used to explain something (according to my dictionary) and as such, a fanfic can be a theory if it's used as an explanation.

Here, I am using some evidence to fill in the lack of surnames.

Actually, you're kind of right. This does just border on theorizing as there isn't really anything to explain. This is simply an idea.

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Maybe it's just a social thing where the higher social class is the one whose name is adopted by the spouse.
This. This is what I'm going to stick to until I can find a better explanation.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:34 PM
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Yeah, I just thought of that too. Maybe people of royalty get to keep their surname, or women could possibly be the dominant gender of Hyrule and men have to change their surnames when they get married.

if the female was superiour then Zelda (if her mother is dead in WW) then she would be queen.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:36 PM
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if the female was superiour then Zelda (if her mother is dead in WW) then she would be queen.
Yeah, I changed my theory. See the post above.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:43 PM
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Re: Surnames, Sir!

^ okay and oh is SVB realy Banned?
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