Take that timeline theorist

Did you notice that there were no kokori in TP but they apear in wind waker. Every timeline i see says ww was after tp and it probably ,is according to rutos and few gorons. So what happen to them and how could they come back.
They went into hiding is a dumb answer to me by the way.
So you timeline theorist and zelda enthusiats (spelled wrong) what happened to the kokori
I think what happen was that since ww was made first they included the kokori but since tp was made later they did not plan on where to put it in the timeline and did not add the kokori. T

well WW is on the adult timeline while TP is on the child timeline so...
anyways
in WW the kokiri became the koroks
and they just arent mentioned in TP, which doesnt mean they dont exist

I really dont see why people try and make something of the senseless bull**** that is zelda timelines.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

I really dont see why people try and make something of the senseless bull**** that is zelda timelines.

i know its sad but i have to agree, i think its pretty clear that there is no legit timeline and never will be

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

I really dont see why people try and make something of the senseless bull**** that is zelda timelines.

Timelines are fun too look at. Sometimes.

there is no time line
if there needs to be put them in a random order and say each link is the next generation or that they all happen at the same time in different dimensions/universes

This thread simply makes me sad. It's amazing that there are people who crush a hobby that others enjoy so quickly because they can't make sense of something. Unbelievable.

For the record, Eiji Aonuma, the guy who makes Zelda at the moment said that there is a timeline and that they are working towards completing it with future titles.
Even Miyamoto has stated that there is a timeline... he has done so on various occasions.

I'm not gonna hide the fact that I think there is no timeline and that I think It's a pointless hobby of others to try to add chronology to that which has none, But people have the right to enjoy it anyway. To answer your question though:

The Kokiri still exist in TP, they are just not mentioned or scene in it so get used to it.

TP is placed here in the timeline:Nowhere because there is no timeline.

there are tomany gaps to make a timeline if they fill the gaps thats good cause then ppl will know thw timeline but atm there is none and its pointless trying to make 1.
i could make a timeline if i wanted to but i dont assassons creed is funner than putong games in order.

Just because you didn't see something, it doesn't mean it wasn't there... After all, we never get to explore the whole world in any Zelda game... You simply didn't go where the kokiris reside during TP.

And they might as well have been wiped out, as TWW happens in a completely different timeline.

We didn't se any other gerudos than ganondorf in TP, does that mean gerudos didn't exist?

Anyway, about the timeline, there are 2 official timelines, the old timeline and the current timeline. And they don't include any spinoffs or 3rd party games like TMC.

The old timeline is
OoT -> MM -> LoZ -> AoL -> aLttP

And then aonuma (or whoever got the idea) got the brilliant idea of making tWW a sequel to OoT,
and thus LoZ -> AoL -> aLttP never happened.
And so the current timeline only consists of the 3d games
-MM - TP
OoT - tWW - PH - ST(?)

So it's completely pointless trying to fit all the games into the same timeline, because nintendo pretty much gave up the idea of a single timeline when they made tWW.

No one never stated that the "current timeline" excludes the older games... And I don't know what do you consider to be a spinoff game, but LA and FSA were both produced by Nintendo (I guess you considered both of them as spinoffs, or simply forgot about them)... And FSA kind of confirmed that Nintendo cares about Capcon's work with the franchise, meaning TMC, FS and OoX should be considered too...
Also, didn't Aonuma say he was trying to tie the new games with the old ones when speaking about FSA?

Originally Posted by ahaha

No one never stated that the "current timeline" excludes the older games... And I don't know what do you consider to be a spinoff game, but LA and FSA were both produced by Nintendo (I guess you considered both of them as spinoffs, or simply forgot about them)... And FSA kind of confirmed that Nintendo cares about Capcon's work with the franchise, meaning TMC, FS and OoX should be considered too...
Also, didn't Aonuma say he was trying to tie the new games with the old ones when speaking about FSA?

Dunno about FSA, but I don't think LA is a spinoff, I just forgot about it.
Has anyone after tWW's release stated that the current timeline includes the older games?

Originally Posted by Viral

This thread simply makes me sad. It's amazing that there are people who crush a hobby that others enjoy so quickly because they can't make sense of something. Unbelievable.

For the record, Eiji Aonuma, the guy who makes Zelda at the moment said that there is a timeline and that they are working towards completing it with future titles.
Even Miyamoto has stated that there is a timeline... he has done so on various occasions.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....He's been saying that since ALttP. 16 years ago. He's done nothing to construct one or even begin to make any of this **** make sense.

I remember in a pre-release interview Eiji said that the game takes place in between OoT and WW. Having played the game how is that even possible?

Then fans are saying it takes place after MM. Meaning that the events of OoT never happened. Ok. Cool.

So where did all this twilight nonsense come from and if that's the case, what the hell was Ganon being punished for? It just makes no sense. I don't see how tp fits anywhere. It has a completely different lore and history than all the other games.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....He's been saying that since ALttP. 16 years ago. He's done nothing to construct one or even begin to make any of this **** make sense.

I remember in a pre-release interview Eiji said that the game takes place in between OoT and WW. Having played the game how is that even possible?

Then fans are saying it takes place after MM. Meaning that the events of OoT never happened. Ok. Cool.

So where did all this twilight nonsense come from and if that's the case, what the hell was Ganon being punished for? It just makes no sense. I don't see how tp fits anywhere. It has a completely different lore and history than all the other games.

Information confirmed in interviews

In an interview that Nintendo Dream conducted with Eiji Aonuma in December 2006, he explained that the Zelda timeline contains two parallel worlds. The split in the timeline occurs during Ocarina of Time, when, at the end of the game, Link is sent back in time by Zelda. Once returned to his original time, Link goes to see her again, and the result of this meeting is an alternate future in which the villain Ganondorf is arrested and tried by the ancient sages, which causes him to get banished to the Twilight Realm; Twilight Princess then occurs several hundred years after the Ocarina of Time child Link's era. Meanwhile, The Wind Waker occurs in the 'original' timeline, hundreds of years after the adventure of adult Link in Ocarina.[2][3]

In any case, the creators maintain that the series has a set timeline, but due to the poor translation protocols in the 1990s and the constant debate over what counts as being canonical, the publicly available information is disputed and may not be reconciled any time soon. Eiji Aonuma has stated that he will do his best to connect the games together and hopefully reveal the timeline someday, and both he and Shigeru Miyamoto have publicly stated there is a master document containing the timeline.

Did you read my post?

pre-release of TP Eiji did i nfact say it takes place between WW and OoT.

You know, you guys are really giving nintendo too much credit on the literature side of things. People have been doing this sense before OoT and there's never, EVER, been a full explination. All we have is developers SAYING that there is one and never delivering one it.

I used to agree with this until I came upon a few realizations.

1. Zelda is seriously the only series to have a theoretical timeline.

2. The idea of a "master document" is insanely stupid especially given how miyamoto never seems to give a **** about plots when making games. And what does he have to gain by keeping it from the fans?

3. Making one at this point would be extremely difficult and a POINTLESS WASTE OF TIME because it DOESN'T ****ING MATTER ANYWAY. That and Zelda doesn't have one and the games still sell like hotcakes.

Zelda timelines have been around since the birth of the series. I think it's about time to just let it go.

Not carefully enough.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

People have been doing this sense before OoT and there's never, EVER, been a full explination. All we have is developers SAYING that there is one and never delivering one it.

Miyamoto gave us an almost compelte timeline (only LA was left out of it), once...

And Aonuma seems to care much more to the overall plot of the series than Miyamoto, so we are probrably gonna get more answers as more Aonuma-directed games come out... Unless Miyamoto keeps upending the tea table... Speaking about upending the tea table, that's probrably what happened between Aonuma's declaration that TP took place before WW and the final release of the game... Nintendo do change the games a lot during development, so I can clearly see how a game's position in the timeline changes during develpment, as the story matures...

Originally Posted by ahaha

Miyamoto gave us an almost compelte timeline (only LA was left out of it), once...

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

So where did all this twilight nonsense come from and if that's the case, what the hell was Ganon being punished for? It just makes no sense. I don't see how tp fits anywhere. It has a completely different lore and history than all the other games.

Thats what i believe