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Old 10-14-2009, 06:14 PM
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Hero of Men Timeline Placement

By looking at the Hero of Men legend, we can see...

That at some point in time, there was a Link that wore no hat. He wore the traditional green tunic, but was hatless.

If you place the hero of men legend on the Adult Timeline between PH and MC, you come across an inconsistency.

In WW, we learn that it is custom to dress young boys in “Hero’s Clothes” in honor of the Hero of Time. These clothes consisted of a green tunic, and a green pointy hat. This custom would have carried over to any “New Hyrule” that Link and Tetra may or may not have found.

If you place the Hero of Men story after PH on the AT, you suddenly have a Link who is hatless, when he really should have assumed the traditional pointy green hat in honor of the Hero of Time, or in Honor of the Hero of Winds.

Another thing that supports that the hero of men’s difference is not just a coincidence, is the fact the the game that introduces this legend also introduces yet a second Link who shares the same hatless difference. This seems to imply that there was a time when this particular clothing tradition (a tunic but no hat), was a custom similar to the clothing tradition that we see in WW. I believe that MC Link wears his traditional clothing in honor of the Hero of Men, just like how WW Link wears his clothes in honor of the Hero of Time.

In conclusion, I place the Hero of Men Legend before the split, and by default, MC as well.

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Old 10-14-2009, 06:20 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

Who said the hero of men was a Link? Just because he wears green garbs doesn't mean anything. It's just a similar appearance. Plus, he was minish, who are seen with green garbs throughout the game.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:21 PM
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Plus, he was minish
Wait, really? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall this at all.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:22 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

^ I might be making something up, but I could have sworn in the start it explained the hero of men being a minish.

EDIT: I am right, check the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N9c2R4nJgc

"The tiny picori (minish) appeared from the sky, bringing the hero of men".
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:30 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

"... bringing the hero of men a sword and golden light."

to my knowledge, it never says that the Hero of Men is Minish.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:32 PM
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^ I might be making something up, but I could have sworn in the start it explained the hero of men being a minish.

EDIT: I am right, check the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N9c2R4nJgc

"The tiny picori (minish) appeared from the sky, bringing the hero of men".
Thank you. Anyhow, I just watched it and it says "The tiny Picori appeared from the sky, bringing the hero of men a sword and a golden light."

So I don't think they brought the hero of men down from wherever they came from, just the Picori Blade and the "golden light".

EDIT: Mr. Baconsock beat me to it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

Even so, we can clearly see that the sword was built to fit the proportions of a normal sized human, and Not a Minish.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:18 PM
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Even so, we can clearly see that the sword was built to fit the proportions of a normal sized human, and Not a Minish.
Ugh, that has no real relevance. Remember, in game Link shrinks, and the sword shrinks as well, and vice versa for both. As well, the minish needed to become visible some how, so HoM used the same sort of mechanic.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:23 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

Wow! This thread came right when I needed to discuss HoM placement.

I place the Hero of Men before the split, but I'm considering TMC as being post-WW.

What?
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:33 PM
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

If the HoM is pre-split, why his legend, sword, the golden light, and the festival is never mentioned?

MC must the the first on the timeline, or the HoM legend must happen some point after WW in the hypothetical "New Hyrule"
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:38 PM
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Ugh, that has no real relevance. Remember, in game Link shrinks, and the sword shrinks as well, and vice versa for both. As well, the minish needed to become visible some how, so HoM used the same sort of mechanic.
This is true, although I don't think that the portals we see in MC existed during the HoM era, since the Minish would have had to established themselves as land dwellers much earlier.

But using the same magic as was used with the portals is a likely possibility.
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

If the Hero of Men legend was pre-split, shouldn't that mean we would have heard something of the Hero of Men on the Child Timeline, as well as the Adult Timeline? Don't get me wrong, I believe Minish Cap is first in the timeline, but that seems like a pretty big thing not to notice to me.
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If the Hero of Men legend was pre-split, shouldn't that mean we would have heard something of the Hero of Men on the Child Timeline, as well as the Adult Timeline? Don't get me wrong, I believe Minish Cap is first in the timeline, but that seems like a pretty big thing not to notice to me.
My guess is that it isn't as memorable as the previous Link. In TP everyone talks about the amazing heroics of the Hero of Time because he is the most recent hero.

Basically, the legend of the hero get's overwritten by every new Link.
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^ Or, the awesomeness of the Hero of Time totally overshadows everything that came before.
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^ Arguably, nothing came before.
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^ Arguably, nothing came before.
That's what they want you to think.

No one would know because the Hero of Time would have overshadowed it.


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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

There was no Hero of Time in Twilight Princess. Because of the split, the hero of time's actions were recorded in the adult timeline and the child timeline, they never happened. Yes, Child Timeline link must have done something heroic for it to be recorded as OoT Link being a hero. But never once did Twilight Princess ever call the hero of old "Hero of time".
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Re: Hero of Men Timeline Placement

it was probobly hidden within the game since we can (debateably) see Vaati in the shooting galary on the wall ( a flyer/poster)

but that could be ARmoghoma too.. or some random one eyed purple winged creature...

This is for OoT btw..
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@ Diz: But OoT Link is still the Hero of Time nonetheless.
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Can I just say - mrbaconsock your avatar is sexy..
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