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Old 10-14-2009, 01:13 PM
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Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Here's Something very confusing-According to the Occoa article on ZeldaWiki, the Occoa created Hyrule, when supposedly, The Golden Godesses made everything. The Triforce, the Sacred Realm, The Hylians, Everyhing. I'm very confused about this, but I have 3 Theories:
1-The Occoa did not create Hyrule, but simply Named and Colonized the area.
2-The Occoa used the Triforce(Or something similar) to Craft Hyrule AFTER the GGs left.
3-The information is biased and the Occoa were simply among the first things created, and able to witness the GGs creating Hyrule. Then they started boasting about it to impress the Hylians.
I'm coming up to City in The Sky in TP, so hopefully i'll be able to get a definitive answer. Please feel free to comment on my Theories, Post your own, or help me figure this out in some other way.

P.S:Im not exactly sure if this belongs in the Theorizing Board, so please go easy on me if have made the mistake. I'm new.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:22 PM
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

I reckon the Oocca are the Ancient Sages and by 'creating Hyrule' they acted as the conduit of the gods' will and arranged the monarchy and government etc.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:27 PM
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Well that makes Sense. Exept the Occoa arent Etheral beings and, as far as the Arbiter's Grounds Cutscene shows, the Sages are Etheral. They may be Powerful. They may be Wise. They may be Freaky Chicken Things, but they're not Etheral.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

The oocca togther with the sages built hyrule kingdom,they made the temple of time and other estructures over hyrule kingdom·The goddesses create the world of hyrule· And remmember that hyrule kingdom is just a kingdom over the big world of hyrule·
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

I don't think the chicken things OR the etherealness is the true form.

We know Rauru is one of the Ancient Sages, and he's not ethereal.

We know the Ancient Sages are 'closer to the gods than even the Hylians', we know they created the Temple of Time.

We know the same of the Oocca. I just connect the dots.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Or the scholar who says there apparent feats is lying and there just posers.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

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Or the scholar who says there apparent feats is lying and there just posers.
Sorry, I know this is reeeaaally annoying, but it's a pet hate of mine-

THEIR apparent feats... THEY'RE just posers.

Neither should be 'there'.

Sorry- I am an insatiable grammar nazi.
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I don't think the chicken things OR the etherealness is the true form.

We know Rauru is one of the Ancient Sages, and he's not ethereal.

We know the Ancient Sages are 'closer to the gods than even the Hylians', we know they created the Temple of Time.

We know the same of the Oocca. I just connect the dots.
I most likely the thinking that they worked together·There is a connection but they obviously are different entities·
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Yes, but like the Sages they must have great magic power, Occoco Juniour can teleport you directly out of a dungeon-Something Midna can't do-Then warp you back to the exact same spot you warped from-Again, something Midna can't do-And he's just a Flying Head!
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

The decorations in the ToT show humanoid figures holding the Dominion Rod, an Oocca creation.

Also they have owl imagery everywhere- KG is a reincarnation of an Ancient Sage.
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Yes, but like the Sages they must have great magic power, Occoco Juniour can teleport you directly out of a dungeon-Something Midna can't do-Then warp you back to the exact same spot you warped from-Again, something Midna can't do-And he's just a Flying Head!
Being fair link gets the same ability in OoT, Its not that wonderious.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Meh, i've only ever played Tiny Snipets of the Gamecube Loz's, and that was on my Cousin's Gamecube.
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The decorations in the ToT show humanoid figures holding the Dominion Rod, an Oocca creation.

Also they have owl imagery everywhere- KG is a reincarnation of an Ancient Sage.
The humanoid figures are the 7 ancient sages, who said tht only the oocca are allowed to carry the dominion rod? link in tp take the DR,also remmember that they work together! And we can see in the cave under kakariko oocca figures over the walls· What with KG? he is a rencarnation of an ancient sage,most likely the rencarnation of rauru.
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What with KG? he is a rencarnation of an ancient sage,most likely the rencarnation of rauru.
The Oocca have owl imagery everywhere in their statues- shows some relation with Owls.

And I disagree it's Rauru. Reincarnation implies Rauru has died- he seems pretty alive to me!
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

The Godesses created the world of Hyrule, just like SVB says, but the Sages and the Ooccas (who are some kind of angels, I think) build the actual Kingdom.


Or... maybe Nintendo just messed up the thing. We know how them love to do that.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

As said before, the godesses created the world. I myself do not actually remember seeing anywhere that the Oocca actually "created" the kingdom. The sages did that. All I heard was that the Oocca came prior to the Hylians and were closer to the goddesses.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Shad in TP claims that the Oocca created the Hylians.
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

But how?
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Re: Occoa/Golden Godesses confusion

Because if you're me, Artem, or a couple of others- They are the first generation of sages.

If you are SVB, or others- They worked together with the sages.

OR if you are others still- Shad is wrong.
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Uhm.......okay?
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