What Happened to the Gerudo

In this thread, I would like to discuss what you believed happened to the Gerudo. I shall list a few posibilities here, and would love to hear your own theories.

1. Banished
When the King learns of Ganondorfs plans, he either banishes or executes him, along with his tribe, the Gerudo.

2. Nothing (They just don't appear in future games because they are not relevent)
The Gerudo infact still exist, and live in another part of the Gerudo desert, and didn't appear simply because the were not needed.

3. Laws of the Universe
Gerudo give birth to one male every thousand years. I suggest that this can be interpreted as there can only ever be one Gerudo male at a time. Because ganondorf is sealed in the Sacred Realm, he is still alive, therefore, another male cannot be born.

These leads to:

3a. Breeding/dying out
With no male, the Gerudo are forced to breed into Hylian society and/or die out.

3b. A reversal of universal law, meaning they no longer exist.
Are any of us familiar with the movie 'Dogma'? If not, it is about two angels who are banished from heaven. However, they find a loophole in Catholic Dogma in which they can re-enter heaven. But if they do this, it proves God wrong, and because this shouldn't hapen, everything, including creation, will be undone.

Perhaps a similar thing happened to the Gerudo. The one male may have been a law created by the godesses (Din, maybe? ). With Ganondorf still alive in the Sacred realm, if the Gerudo infact had another male, the laws of the Godesses would have been disobeyed, and to fix thi, the Gerudo cound have been uncreated.

Thoughts?

Depends on which timeline.

On the AT they probably survived just were in a place we don't go to- much how we hardly see Gorons in tWW, but see their home in PH. They're just not important yet. They'll come back when they're supposed to.

CT, I reckon they died. Either through war or famine or what have you. I know we don't see every art of the desert in TP, but we see enough in my opinion to know there's none left- even in culture.

I think Ganondorf betrayed his people, hence them being no better off even though he had conquered hyrule and/or Nabooru and other Gerudo were challenging his right as ruler. Either way Ganondorf didn't sire the next generation of Gerudo, including the next King, so the line ended and they either died out or "went to the Market for boyfriends" and got absorbed into the Hylians. The latter is more likely since in TP Telma has Gerudo features but with Hylian ears.

I don't understand your "Dogma movie" way of explaining why they died out. Would you mind explaining it a little more in depth for me?

I don't think the Gerudo were all executed, genocide is just something that doesn't fit in with Zelda, or Nintendo. Not all the Gerudo followed Ganon, like Nabooru. Didn't she become a sort of Gerudo leader? And the Gerudo aren't evil, they are just thieves, probably because they have to be, look at where they live... So I highly doubt they were all executed as a consequence of Ganon's actions.

They probably just don't show up in the games, the same as the Kokiri. I think Tingle is evidence Kokiri are around in Termina, I mean, who is he trying to imitate? We just don't see them in-game because they are not relevant. Plus, Jolene is obviously Gerudo in PH, so they must have survived as people, though maybe not as a nation, which makes sense because their King was killed, and crazy... So many may have assimilated into Hylian culture. This could be how we get Telma in TP.

Tingle is not a Kokiri, he's a 35 year old man who thinks he's a fairy and wears spandex. His father runs the Boat Course in the Southern Swamp, and he's your average fat adult. I don't this Jolene is obviously Gerudo, but definantly part-Gerudo, just like Baito being part-Sheikah. Actually, it looks like all the humanoid species (Gerudo, Shiekah, Human, Hylian) crossbred after the Great Flood.

Originally Posted by Labrynian Rebel

Tingle is not a Kokiri, he's a 35 year old man who thinks he's a fairy and wears spandex. His father runs the Boat Course in the Southern Swamp, and he's your average fat adult. I don't this Jolene is obviously Gerudo, but definantly part-Gerudo, just like Baito being part-Sheikah. Actually, it looks like all the humanoid species (Gerudo, Shiekah, Human, Hylian) crossbred after the Great Flood.

I think he ment that tingle was imitating a kokiri. But how is that possable if there is no kokiri there? I think that the kokiri do have counterparts as well, just we never meet them

If the gerudos all interbred like some have said (about Telma) then I think there would be more people with gerudo traits. (I don't know about the AT because I never played most of the games.)

apparently if a race isn't in a game there by defacto, Extinct, Like in Star Trek, the Bajorians wasn't in the last few seasons of most series, so they must be all dead too. The fact Gerudo are nomadic and live in a vast desert has nothing to do with it nor there non-importance to the story and thus wasted time creating there sprites.

In TP, the entrance to Gerudo Valley became impassable, since the Gerudo could no longer
access the river flowing into Lake Hylia, they became nomads as seen in FSA.

Originally Posted by Cukeman

In TP, the entrance to Gerudo Valley became impassable, since the Gerudo could no longer
access the river flowing into Lake Hylia, they became nomads as seen in FSA.

I think that's more AT though.

Either way, they are extinct by the time of ALttP, which IMO is near, if not, last.

Originally Posted by Diz

I don't understand your "Dogma movie" way of explaining why they died out. Would you mind explaining it a little more in depth for me?

We can assume that any laws the gods make must be followed, and what they say/do is final. Let's the gods made a law that only one male may exist in the Gerudo race at any one time. When Ganondorf is the gerudo male, and is sealed in the sacred realm, he does not die. So therefore, the Gerudo can not have another male, and can not reproduce with ganondorf because he s sealed. So either they died out and/or bred with other races, or broke 'Dogma'.

If in fact they had another male, effectively making two gerudo males and going against the gods they would undo everything basic existance relies upon, that the gods are infallible. Effectively turning everything upside down. Black becomes white, up becomes down, existance becomes not-existance (for the Gerudo race anyway).

Originally Posted by Matt 20 1

3. Laws of the Universe
Gerudo give birth to one male every thousand years.

your, a little bit off here, its not one male child every thousand years, but one male child every 100 years.

Originally Posted by Matt 20 1

I suggest that this can be interpreted as there can only ever be one Gerudo male at a time.

could be, but probably not, for all we know(tho it would be a bit odd and fanfiction-y but hey it is a magical world, stranger things have happened in the Universe of Zelda) they might have the capability to reproduce asexually.

^ Ugh, I don't think thats the message Nintendo is trying to get to kiddies. Jerk off = keep species alive... ugh... Of course, with the twinrova being Ganons parents... That just leads to old lady lesbians... lets drop this.

On Topic: In FSA Ganon is alive, and another Gerudo leader is, who I believe to be male. I think that means same old Ganon (or really young new Ganon) and two can co-exist at the same time.

Originally Posted by Watties

^ Ugh, I don't think thats the message Nintendo is trying to get to kiddies. Jerk off = keep species alive... ugh...

ZeldaZealot takes offense to this, just because a race can reproduce asexually does not mean that they have to masturbate to achieve it.

^ Read the 2nd part. And again, as I said, LEAVE THE TOPIC ALONE.

The Gerudo go into Hyrule in search of boyfriends according to a Gossip Stone in OoT. I have a personal theory they took Sheikah males as mates... This might explain people like Fenadi in TP, and maybe Telma, who seems to be helping save Hyrule in the shadows, and sort of acts as Ilia's Impa. And if the Gerudo and Sheikah inbred then it may help explain the Twili, and the use of both Sheikah AND Gerudo symbols in the palace. But then, maybe its just me

They get men from other tribes... (see OoT)

This is my idea of how the Gerudo reproduction work:

A Gerudo leaves the dessert to look for a boyfriend/husband.

The have intercourse and the Gerudo become pregnant

If the child is a girl, she is gonna be Gerudo, with the yellow eyes, red hair and dark skin. Maybe, after this, the mother takes her daughter back to the dessert.

But if the child is a boy, he is gonna be hylian

The "Gerudo male" event occurs every 100 years, when this is messed up, and a boy borns with the Gerudo features, and is named their King.

Twinrova, described as "surrogate mothers", just raised the kid Ganondorf was.


Ok, after the events of the CT, the Hylians punish the actions of Ganny and his followers, sealing off the dessert, taking away the source of males of them. As a result, the Gerudo became nomads and leave Hyrule, looking for other place to reproduce, and, maybe, obtain other resources, like food and water.

I disagree any males are born at all.

Look up 'GYNOGENESIS'.

This is the closest real-world method that seems to relate to the Gerudo.

I think that whatever male Gerudo is alive at the time, makes babies with the ladies and then another male is born eventually afterwards.