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Old 10-08-2009, 12:44 PM
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Why did OoT Link have to stay sealed for SEVEN YEARS If WW Link could just Pick it Up???
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... Why was he (Link) called the Hero of Time in the prophecy if he originally wasn't supposed to time-travel?
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:43 PM
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Why did OoT Link have to stay sealed for SEVEN YEARS If WW Link could just Pick it Up???
Presumably tWW Link is older than young OoT Link. Makes sense- tWW Link is 'coming of age' while OoT Link is like 9/10.

Or it could just be that cause the MS was depowered in tWW the magic was less strict.

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Why was he (Link) called the Hero of Time in the prophecy if he originally wasn't supposed to time-travel?
Who says he wasn't supposed to
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: Two More Questions... :)

If Zelda wasn't supposed to send Link back in time ("creating a split"), Link could still be
supposed to travel back & forth without creating a new reality (by using the Master Sword)
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:42 PM
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Time travel aside, 5 Links use the Master Sword (Canon or Not)
OoT
ALttP
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OoX

OoT Link had to Wait 7 years until he can bear the power of the Master Sword
TP Link was roughly the same age as adult link in OoT
ALttP Link seems to be around the same age as these other Two (resembles a16 yr old AoL Link)
OoX Link seems to be a bit younger but his Master Sword may or may not be Canon and the Master Sword, by this time, was a bit different...
WW Link finds it in the temple of time where Link left it in OoT''s ending. He is 12 in the game.
So...
17/16 = Ready to use MS
10/9 = NOT Ready to use MS
12 = Ready to use MS

If this is the Criteria for the Swords useability... then why did Link of OoT Wait seven years?

River Zora says: MS may be depowered by the time of WW (I say maybe the flood itself might have something to do with it)

Another theory may be that 12 is the actual age for the Master Swords use but maybe WW Link had much more experience/inate power that gave him the ability to wield it. Where as OoT Link did not have that same extent of power until he was 17/16...

What if the Split in time had something to do with it? What if the Split caused a new but weaker master sword to form in the same place it should be in the AT. ...hmm...

Maybe Reforged master swords are able to be used at the will of the user (this would explain why OoX Link is able to hold it after ALttP Link reforged it...)

Im not sure of this but when did OoT Link get the Triforce of Courage? could Courage have anything to do with holding the master sword? (im pretty sure Link from WW First recieved the Triforce before getting the MS) This theory would also apply to OoX.

The only Link that is in the Clear is TP Link or... maybe not...
Did he, perhaps, NEED the essence of the HoT In Him in order for him to weild the MS?
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:45 PM
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Re: Two More Questions... :)

OoT says that Young Link wasn't old enough to become the Hero of Time. He had a specific destiny thad had been prophesided, and had to be carried out at the right time. Wind Waker Link didn't.

The time travel was always predicted.
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^ So they predicted that Link wouldn't be able to carry out the prediction?

Apparently, he was supposed to wait until he was 15/16 years old to wield the Master Sword, but he did it too early, so he was sealed away until he was old enough.

In other words, Link was sealed away because he contradicted the prophecy, whereas WW Link had no prophecy to contradict.
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Well the Hero of Time was spoken about in the prophecies. So obviously the prophets knew time travel was going to be involved in his journeys.
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Thanks for clarifying that, Erim.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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Unless, "Hero of Time" is the prophisied title of all the Links that would appear throughout various points in time to save Hyrule. Therefore, as they share a connection, all the Links on the CT should be the Hero of Time who appears and saves Hyrule as a young adult.

WW Link has no connection to the original Hero of Time as he is on the timeline that contradicted the prophecy, so he doesn't have to be a young adult to save Hyrule.

Makes sense?
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:00 PM
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No, not really.
Only OoT Link was ever called the Hero of Time. Even OoA Link isn't called that, despite his time travel, but rather "The Hero of the Essences of Nature and Time"
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:10 PM
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Re: Two More Questions... :)

WW link had already proved himself worthy of holding the master sword, via TotG so there was no age limit necessary
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:34 PM
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No, not really.
Only OoT Link was ever called the Hero of Time. Even OoA Link isn't called that, despite his time travel, but rather "The Hero of the Essences of Nature and Time"
OoA doesn't have to be on the CT, am I correct?

I will speak with this theory:

The Hero of Time is any hero who appears to save Hyrule as a young adult aged about 15-20. He is called the Hero of Time because he could appear at any time to save Hyrule.

OoT Link is the first "Hero of Time" and is destined to reappear at different times to save Hyrule. This is why the people in the WW backstory expected the Hero of Time to return to save them. He was destined to come back whenever Hyrule was in trouble, but because the original Hero of Time no longer existed, he could not have any descendants to become the next "Hero of Time".

On the CT, OoT Link was (presumably) able to reproduce. This is why the next Link (TP Link) fit the criteria for being the "Hero of Time". He appeared at a random time to save Hyrule while he was a young adult (19).
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:41 PM
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Actually, WW's People waited for the Hero of Time because they, basically, worshipped the young lad (OoT's Link) who overthrew the ruling, coercive power. It was the INDIVIDUAL (OoT Link) that they thought would comeback (it seemed like they thought of Link as more of a deity (a *fierce deity* ) than [Knowing] that a Hero will always emerge in a reincarnated form to save whoever from whatever threat). Thus the proposition " The Hero of Time Monniker is a label for ALL Links" is not totally in aggreance with WW's presentation of a Specific Hero.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:47 PM
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My guess is that's how the game designers wanted it : /.
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WW link had already proved himself worthy of holding the master sword, via TotG so there was no age limit necessary
Qué?
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:04 PM
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WW link had already proved himself worthy of holding the master sword, via TotG so there was no age limit necessary
This. WW Link wasn't even allowed to get the MS until he completed the tower of the gods.

So the best answer I can think of is that OoT Link had to be a certain age, while WW Link wasn't. There is no cookie-cutter approach with the hero. Although they [supposedly] share the same bloodline(well, not all of them), and the same role, they also have different requirements.

Keep in mind that the MS plays different roles in each game as well. In OoT it was the key to time travel. In TP, it was both a curse breaker and the key to the second portion of the ToT. In WW, it was a seal on Ganondorf's magic.
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River Zora says: MS may be depowered by the time of WW (I say maybe the flood itself might have something to do with it)
I don't say it- the game does. Ganon killed the two Master Sword Sages to prevent its evil-banishing power as part of his takeover. Two dungeons involve bringing the new Sages to their temples to repower the sword.

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OoA doesn't have to be on the CT, am I correct?
By the same logic none of the games (other than OoT, MM, TP, tWW and PH) have to be on either timeline, yes. Though there's still evidence each way.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:28 PM
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This. WW Link wasn't even allowed to get the MS until he completed the tower of the gods.
Which means he had the ToC by that time... just a mention.

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So the best answer I can think of is that OoT Link had to be a certain age, while WW Link wasn't. There is no cookie-cutter approach with the hero. Although they [supposedly] share the same bloodline(well, not all of them), and the same role, they also have different requirements.
WW Links Blood =/= OoT Links blood. We can only be sure of OoT - TP

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Keep in mind that the MS plays different roles in each game as well. In OoT it was the key to time travel. In TP, it was both a curse breaker and the key to the second portion of the ToT. In WW, it was a seal on Ganondorf's magic.
Hmm... is that relevant in terms of being able to USE these powers?

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I don't say it- the game does. Ganon killed the two Master Sword Sages to prevent its evil-banishing power as part of his takeover. Two dungeons involve bringing the new Sages to their temples to repower the sword.
My bad.
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Nope. He gets the MS AND repowers it before going searching for the Triforce.
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When one who holds the chosen power appears...
Necessarily, one to accomplish the antithesis of that will be born.
That is the fate of those who bear the crests that were awarded by the gods you believe in.
Whenever those bearing the crests appear in this world...
An age of bloodshed will come, as often as need be.
Do not think everything ends with this...
Think of this as the beginning of a bloodsmeared history of light and darkness!
Basically this says that a Link is always destined to appear. This matches with my version of the prophesy of the Hero of Time; I just say that this "recurring" Link is a "Hero of Time". On the CT, the OoT Link is able to continue the "Hero of Time" line. Every Link in this line must be a young adult when they save Hyrule, as the prophesy indicates. WW Link could save the land at 12 years old because he is not related to a Hero of Time and therefore has no need of pertaining to the prophesy.
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