Diz' Idea for A timeline (OoX focus)

Yes, this was an excuse to introduce my new timeline ^_^. What I would like from you guys to debate why this could or could not work. (Mainly focusing on the OoX games.)

(AT) tMC - OoT - WW/PH - FS/FSA - (ST) - LoZ/Aol - *OoX
(CT) tMC - OoT/MM - TP - aLttP/LA - *OoX

This Quote by Sparty is what made me change my idea of their placement, slightly. Although not changing anything, as I think they can fit anywhere.

Originally Posted by Sparty

Clues to OoX's placement:

Hyrule's Royal Family is intact
The Triforce Resides in Hyrule Castle
Ganon has been vanquished in the past and is dead
Twinrova lives and still plots and schemes
Gorons exist in abundance
Zoras have not become Rito
There are both Humans and Hylians
Your mom goes to college

Take these clues and make your placement guesses.

Twinrova is in the AT because they explain how she says she will come back to haunt you. She kept her promis. The CT because they never died.


* OoA/OoS are on both timelines (to me) and are not part of the timeline. As in the diferent lands portraid in either game do not run on the same time scheduel as the other games. OoX to me means that either game could go on either timeline without affecting placement of the other games.

() - Spirit Tracks could go there, but until the games release, theres no defanince yet and you can disregard it's placement in my timeline.

Something that I won't change my mind on is the placement of Minish Cap. I myself believe it goes there because I'm one of the many that think that is where Link gets his hat idea. But, I also know the many reasons why it wouldn't go there but I tend to think it makes more sence to me.

Discuss?

I'm just curious as to how Twinrova returned... so far in Zelda the only returns were
facilitated by the Triforce of Power, and/or a revival ceremony. And then there are
lingering spirits.

It's an odd idea, but could Onox and Veran have revived Twinrova?
Onox looks somewhat like Nabooru did when she was brainwashed
into becoming an Iron Knuckle... suggesting that Onox might also
be a servant of Twinrova.

Hmm... Zant also wears a similar pointy metal hood, perhaps this
pointy headgear is a symbol of subservience, of being under a leader:
Nabooru -> Twinrova
Onox -> Twinrova
Zant -> Ganondorf

...possible meaning for the headgear?

Originally Posted by Cukeman

It's an odd idea, but could Onox and Veran have revived Twinrova?
Onox looks somewhat like Nabooru did when she was brainwashed
into becoming an Iron Knuckle... suggesting that Onox might also
be a servant of Twinrova.

ZeldaZealot dont thinks that is right.

Onox himself stated that he was summon from the Dark Realm by Twinrova. Veran origins tho was never revealed.

If we say that Veran summoned Twinrova, then it would be a lot of summoning, Veran summons Twinrova who summons Onox, Veran and Onox then go out to light the flame of sorrow and destruction by Twinrova orders, so Twinrova can summon Ganon... ZeldaZealot thinks that makes a horrible script.

It's an odd idea, but could Onox and Veran have revived Twinrova?

What ZeldaZealot said. Twinrova summoned Veran and Onox. This would make

Dark World Veran and Onox summon Twinrova into the Light World (somehow)
Twinrova summon Veran and Onox in from the Dark World
Together they summon Ganon.

Why all the summoning?

Isn't it easier just to say they never died?

All in all though, good timeline Diz. I have problems with tMC first- but it's generally a valid placement among people, so go for it.

Originally Posted by ZeldaZealot

Onox himself stated that he was summon from the Dark Realm by Twinrova.

This refers to his return after OoX Link defeats him, not his "original" origin.
Just to be clear...

This refers to his return after OoX Link defeats him, not his "original" origin.
Just to be clear...

No- Onox and Twinrova both make it clear that Twinrova summoned Onox from the Dark World before Link defeats him.

This is a good timeline, Diz. It's just like my old one, which had OoX on both sides after TP and after WW.

.................... - WW/PH - ST - OoA/OoS - FS/FSA - LoZ/AoL
TMC - OoT
.............MM -- TP ------------ OoS/OoA ----------- ALttP/LA

Also, it has already been stated by a developer that ST takes place 100 years after PH.

Also, it has already been stated by a developer that ST takes place 100 years after PH.

But there's nothing to say there aren't games set between PH and ST.

^ I know, especially since "one hundred" can also mean "several hundred".

^ Perzackerly. Personally I'm hoping for an end or near-end timeline placement with plenty of clues of backstory what's happened before...

Doubt it though.

How do the Japanese do math if 100 is also "several hundred"?

It would make sense for LoZ/AoL to be after ST because Ganon would have ravaged the land like a little kid kicking and smashing his Lego structures and train sets and such.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

How do the Japanese do math if 100 is also "several hundred"?

Their grammer is a bit different, they have no indication for weather they are talking about just 1 thing or several of the same thing without using numbers, hon the word for book could also mean books, so seiki, the word for century, could also mean centuries.

they have different words for mathematical numbers, hyaku is the word for 100, for the word 200 ZeldaZealot believes that it is nihyaku(please correct ZeldaZealot if he is wrong).

so if all they said in the interview is seiki, and gave no specific number before that, then they could be talking about either 1 century or several, it can get frustrating at times.

That's probably true.

I worked with an oriental guy who couldn't understand that "the blue ones"
meant one type "the blue kind". He said that "one" is singular, so "ones" can't be correct.

I never could convince him that it meant one "kind"...

Originally Posted by ZeldaZealot

they have different words for mathematical numbers, hyaku is the word for 100, for the word 200 ZeldaZealot believes that it is nihyaku(please correct ZeldaZealot if he is wrong).

Why can't they just say "hyaku" years?

I do know a bit of Chinese (which is sort of similar to Japanese), so my guess is that 200 is "arhyaku" because 2 in Chinese is "ar".

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

I do know a bit of Chinese (which is sort of similar to Japanese), so my guess is that 200 is "arhyaku" because 2 in Chinese is "ar".

nope, apparently bai is the word for 100 in Chinese, so it would be arbai for 200. ZeldaZealot believes that the area where Chinese and Japanese are a bit similar is the Kanji writing system, and even then ZeldaZealot believes that there are still differences between them.

I know bai is 100 and arbai is 200, but since we are dealing with Japanese, I combined the Chinese word for two (ar) with the Japanese word for hundred (hyaku).

By the way, I'm pretty sure that the Chinese word for 100 is yibai, not just bai.

ZeldaZealot thinks that its either yibai or just bai, all depending on where where you live in China, ZeldaZealot's brother lived in China for about 3 years, and the language differs slightly from town to town, and even from district to district within a large city.

All I know is that it's yibai in the province of Sichuan or just certain towns like Ya'an and Chengdu. I haven't heard any people in China say yibai or bai, so I really don't know where else it is used.