Triforce from TP to ALttP

I see many people have TP - FSA - ALttP in their timelines, on the belief that after Ganondorf is killed in TP, he is reincarnated in FSA, becomes Ganon from the Trident, etc, etc. But what about the Triforce? At the end of TP, we have no idea what happens to it, then the next we see, all three pieces are together again and back in the sacred realm. I do like the idea of TP - FSA - ALttP, but it just doesn't make sense to me without some idea of what happens to the Triforce.

So, does anyone have any theories regarding those shiny golden triangles?

Well maybe sience the ToP was taken from Ganondorf, the other two were also taken from that Link and Zelda. Not as a punishment, but because they were no longer needed. So where else would the Triforce go?

Originally Posted by Diz

Well maybe sience the ToP was taken from Ganondorf, the other two were also taken from that Link and Zelda. Not as a punishment, but because they were no longer needed. So where else would the Triforce go?

That is one of the ideas behind it. Another that I've heard is that Link gains the ToP from defeating Ganondorf, and Link and zelda decide to reunite the triforce and return it to the sacred realm. Another, more unlikely, idea is that the triforce never split on the CT, so it remained in the SR in it's original state until LttP ganon claims it.

I think the only reason that TP Link and Zelda got Courage and Wisdom passed down to
them, is because Ganondorf never gave up Power. Once Ganondorf was killed at the end of
TP he lost the Triforce of Power, then there was no longer a reason for TP Link and Zelda
to pass down their pieces.

When TP Link, Zelda and Ganon all died, their pieces returned to the Sacred Realm...
...just a theory...

I don't think the Triforce was still in the Sacred Realm during the events of TP. It's been theorized before, and I've even thrown in my bit about how it's possible that the Triforce is still in the Sacred Realm during TP.

However.

There's a huge piece of evidence to show that Ganondorf did have the ToP in TP. If he didn't have it, how could he have survived for so many years without growing old and die. Many Zelda fans would agree that the ToP grants its bearer immortality. Therefore, this is the reason Ganondorf survived up to the events of TP without looking much older than he did in OoT.

Any thoughts on this? Any ideas on why he has the ToP if there's no evidence of him entering the Sacred Realm to claim it on the CT?

Gerudo in general seem to have unnaturally long lifespans. Twinrova were 380/400 years old.

I still think he had the TP to survive his execution, but lifespan in general is a poor judgement in my opinion, and I do not think the Triforce gives immortality, even in full.

Ganondorf probrably survived for so long because he was trapped in a different realm (and apparently, he had no body at all while he was there)... However, I still think he had the ToP, and it helped him survive the Sage's blow, just like in OoT, when he was about to die by the wounds of the battle with Link and his tower collapsing over him, the Triforce shines and he turns into Ganon instead... But the Ganon transformation wasn't complete in TP, as the Sages activated the Mirror before he could transform (his body did start to change, though).

After his defeat, the Triforce probrably went back to the SR, as the divine prank came to an end...

As with all timeline inconsistensies, wait for it to be cleared up in a future game, rather than trying to bend the timeline to make it fit.

Originally Posted by River Zora

Gerudo in general seem to have unnaturally long lifespans. Twinrova were 380/400 years old.

that was likely through magical means.

that was likely through magical means.

No reason to assume either way.

Witches & magic is not a good assumption?

Originally Posted by River Zora

Gerudo in general seem to have unnaturally long lifespans. Twinrova were 380/400 years old.

I still think he had the TP to survive his execution, but lifespan in general is a poor judgement in my opinion, and I do not think the Triforce gives immortality, even in full.

Not poor judgment at all.

Ganondorf, if his increased lifespan were indeed by magical means much like Twinrova, would begin to look older like them. Instead, his increased lifespan is akin to that of the Highlander movies and series, where the Immortal remains looking like he or she is in the Prime of his or her life. I believe that is a boon granted by the ToP.

True, TP is only 100 years after OoT, so it's arguably not much to go off of. You'll note that he doesn't even have a strand of graying hair though, and Twinrova, for their long life, are old hags by the time of OoT.

In WW, Ganondorf has aged rather well in my opinion, if he has even aged at all. According to in-game text, hundreds of years have passed. Even with magical means, such as Twinrova's lifespan, he should be hunched over and graying by then, right? Well, he has an edge that they didn't: the Triforce of Power.

Two instances in which we see the ToP's life-increasing attributes show forth: WW and TP. I think he's immortal because he does not appear to age. That is why I say the ToP gives immortality. Makes sense to me. In fact, this is a theory I've had ever since OoT was released and WW and TP only confirmed this theory even further.

However we konw Link and Zelda's line pass down the Triforce- so presumably it doesn't make them immortal.

The Great King in AoL, even though he had the COMPLETE Triforce, eventually died, so it doesn't make Ganondorf immortal. It's very likely that Ganondorf's black magic (which he probably learned from Twinrova, seeing as they ARE his surrogate mothers) allowed him to live so long. It's very probable that if Link didn't kill Twinrova, they would have lived on for another century or so. And I agree that the ToP probably keeps Ganondorf in shape.

Believe what you want. Ganondorf has the ToP within his body, whereas the King probably just had the Triforce under his watch and care. It's possible his Black Magic was a cause of his apparant immortality, but as I mentioned the Triforce is probably the biggest factor since his magic would eventually cause him to appear as Twinrova instead of in peak physical condition.

ToP = Highlander of teh LoZ

However we konw Link and Zelda's line pass down the Triforce- so presumably it doesn't make them immortal.

The ToP doesn't automatically make Ganondorf immortal, it gives him the power to pretty much live as long as he wants. Remember, the ToP is absolute power, which includes the power to live practically forever.

I look at it as a system of checks and balances. The holders of the triforce are somewhat at a state of equilibrium, as no one piece of the triforce is better than the other; they are all equal to one another, yet at the same time more powerful than any other force in Hyrule.

That's why no one but Link is able to kill Ganondorf(when he's equipped with the ToP). He can survive just about any attack from anybody else, but cannot survive a deathblow by the holder of the ToC. I would imagine a similar situation with Link and Zelda... Link would more than likely be defeated by a ToW-equipped Zelda.

But, my original point was that Ganondorf has only survived so long because he has the power to do so, whereas Link and Zelda don't.

Possible explenation: The Triforce was in the SR the entire game of TP and Ganondorf only had the Triforce spiritually. Therefore the Triforce isn't touched on the CT untill ALttP (or arguably FSA).

That helps, Pine, but what evidence is there that 'spiritual possession of Triforce' exists as a medium- and why should this be more sensible?

I don't think we can do anything but speculate at this point.

That helps, Pine, but what evidence is there that 'spiritual possession of Triforce' exists as a medium- and why should this be more sensible?

See OoX.

Also the power is only known as the "blessing of the gods" etc. I think it's obvious that they don't hokld the Triforce peices.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Also the power is only known as the "blessing of the gods" etc. I think it's obvious that they don't hokld the Triforce peices.

It's also called the "power of the gods"