The FSA-ALttP Connection

Alright, I never really understood why FSA can be the prequel to ALttP besides the similar geography. Can you guys explain this to me? I don't want to start a war about the placement of FSA and ALttP, I just want to know why FSA can precede ALttP. Thanks.

It was the original intention until Miyamoto "upended the teatable" and changed the story.

FSA was supposed to be the SW as seen in the LttP backstory, but Miyamoto changed that part of the story, but nothing says that he changed its placement as a LttP prequel. Geography, Ganon, and a few other things (Hyrule castle is identical between LttP and FSA) make it fairly evident that they are still connected.

Originally Posted by Slagr

FSA was supposed to be the SW as seen in the LttP backstory, but Miyamoto changed that part of the story, but nothing says that he changed its placement as a LttP prequel. Geography, Ganon, and a few other things (Hyrule castle is identical between LttP and FSA) make it fairly evident that they are still connected.

This is true, one can say that FSA is no longer a presumed Seal War (perhaps a part of it), but I personally don't think the upending of the tea table disqualified FSA as being ALttP's close prequel.

The only in-game evidence is the fact that Ganon gets his trident in FSA. Other than that, there's nothing.

FSA's timeline placement is a real pain, to be honest. I try not to think about it.

At this point, I say that FSA can prequel ALttP, but it is equally likely that it doesn't anymore.

All Miyamoto wanted to do with its story was to "un-complicate" it though, which means that it can still be its prequel or even the Seal War.

However, I think that, with this, Nintendo is implying that OoT is no longer the Seal War.

Ah, I see. Thanks guys! I got what I posted for!

Posts are still welcome, though. I want to get as many viewpoints as possible.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

All Miyamoto wanted to do with its story was to "un-complicate" it though, which means that it can still be its prequel or even the Seal War.

It makes sense that he'd want to uncomplicate it, really. When you're playing a game with your friends, you don't really want to be scrolling through reams of text.

It can't be the Seal War though. The Seal War is completely different to FSA's plot.

How could the Seal War still be OoT anyway? WW shows OoT's Ganon dying on the adult timeline, and TP shows OoT's Ganon dying on the child timeline. Neither game shows him getting stuck in the Dark World.

geography and Ganon's choice in weapons and titles really are not enough for me. there is absolutely no way to know whether those things mean anything or not.

Originally Posted by Tyras

geography and Ganon's choice in weapons and titles really are not enough for me. there is absolutely no way to know whether those things mean anything or not.

FSA and LttP have the exact same castle. Every single room is identical. AT FSA takes place in New Hyrule while CT LttP takes place in Old Hyrule. Why are the castles identical?

Originally Posted by Slagr

FSA and LttP have the exact same castle. Every single room is identical. AT FSA takes place in New Hyrule while CT LttP takes place in Old Hyrule. Why are the castles identical?

who cares? that's not anywhere near enough to prove that they are the same palces.

Similar places (or anything similar for that matter) could be deemed as just a cameo.

Originally Posted by Tyras

who cares? that's not anywhere near enough to prove that they are the same palces.

So what are you trying to say? That identical geography and Ganon isn't enough to connect the two? Tell me, is there any other game that connects to FSA with more evidence than FSA-LttP? inb4FS. OoT is the most likely, and it's arguably not more evident than LttP.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

Similar places (or anything similar for that matter) could be deemed as just a cameo.

You connect TP to LttP for "cameo" references, but not FSA-LttP?

FSA has similar dungeons to ALttP as well, don't forget that. The Eastern Palace looks just like ALttP's. The Desert Temple looks just like ALttP's. Even the Mountain Tower in FSA looks like the Tower of Hera in ALttP. Also, In ALttP at Kakariko, one guy tells you that an underground area used to be the hideout for a gang of thieves. FSA had thieves underground in Kakariko. Several places, in fact.

When Miyamotto upended the teatable he only made it so that FSA can not be the entire Seal war. FSA can still come close to ALttP, but it's possible to say all the connections are "pre-tea-table" and put ALttP and FSA on different timelines.

Edit:

Even the Mountain Tower in FSA looks like the Tower of Hera in ALttP.

The towers are different as the ToH is on the left peak of DM and the Mountain tower is on the right peak.

Originally Posted by Slagr

So what are you trying to say? That identical geography and Ganon isn't enough to connect the two? Tell me, is there any other game that connects to FSA with more evidence than FSA-LttP? inb4FS. OoT is the most likely, and it's arguably not more evident than LttP.

I'm trying to say that geography isn't worth **** as evidence. I've already stated that titles don't mean anything and that Ganon can call himself whatever the hell he wants, so that's not a connection. You can't prove the tridents are the same, so that's another connection gone. Add in the fact that Miyamoto went out of his way to change the story and appearence of the game and I'd say that the two games aren't connected.

I'm trying to say that geography isn't worth **** as evidence. I've already stated that titles don't mean anything and that Ganon can call himself whatever the hell he wants, so that's not a connection. You can't prove the tridents are the same, so that's another connection gone. Add in the fact that Miyamoto went out of his way to change the story and appearence of the game and I'd say that the two games aren't connected.

I'm sorry but that's an incredibly biased thing to say. Give me counters to these points without the "THAT'S STUPID I WIN YOU SUCK" logic.

Geography
Castles are the same
Enemies are the same
Ganon's titles
The Trident
The ressurection of Ganon.

Originally Posted by Tyras

I'm trying to say that geography isn't worth **** as evidence. I've already stated that titles don't mean anything and that Ganon can call himself whatever the hell he wants, so that's not a connection. You can't prove the tridents are the same, so that's another connection gone. Add in the fact that Miyamoto went out of his way to change the story and appearence of the game and I'd say that the two games aren't connected.

Lol, and you argue the master sword in a forest for a CT placement. LMAO.

Originally Posted by Tyras

I'm trying to say that geography isn't worth **** as evidence. I've already stated that titles don't mean anything and that Ganon can call himself whatever the hell he wants, so that's not a connection. You can't prove the tridents are the same, so that's another connection gone. Add in the fact that Miyamoto went out of his way to change the story and appearence of the game and I'd say that the two games aren't connected.

I notice you did not answer my question. What, exactly, makes these things irrelevant? Is there another placement with more evidence, or are you just choosing to ignore the evidence you don't agree with?

EDIT: I also notice that your placement of the FSS is AT, which implies that you hold "Triumph Forks" and ocean backgrounds in higher priority than

Geography
Castles are the same
Enemies are the same
Ganon's titles
The Trident
The ressurection of Ganon.